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What is a champagne socialist?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    In contrast to the elitists in FG, who believe in champagne only for their real friends and...you know the rest...

    I'm fondly reminded of the time that I was using a self service checkout and the drunk at the checkout on the other side waving his bottle of Finlandia at me shouting "why ar ya bein so ignurent, i'm only tryna ta pay ye for de drink".

    Vodka socialism is the future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 horseboxxx


    The likes of RTE presenters going on and on about travellers and junkies, need to build resources for them, give them houses, then fight tooth and nail if they where going to build these resources in their neighbourhood.
    Got to help the riff riff, but keep them away from dalky and fox rock


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Friend of a friend's husband. Always complaining about capitalism and quite preachy. Family has three houses and he got left enough in his father's will to quit his job and set up his dream business.

    Now I don't think it's a bad thing that he's aware there are people worse off than him, and he gives the less fortunate a helping hand.

    It's easy to be preachy about our capitalistic ways from that position though. And fairly hypocritical.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Friend of a friend's husband. Always complaining about capitalism and quite preachy. Family has three houses and he got left enough in his father's will to quit his job and set up his dream business.

    Now I don't think it's a bad thing that he's aware there are people worse off than him, and he gives the less fortunate a helping hand.

    It's easy to be preachy about our capitalistic ways from that position though. And fairly hypocritical.

    What's hypocritical about it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Boyd Barrett and co who come from well off backgrounds yet campaign for people in poorer communities are despised by those who fancy themselves as elite because they are seen as class traitors.

    I always thought people like Dick Spring was what a champagne socialist was. Somebody campaigning on left-wing policies (despite going into power with right-wing parties) and yet ending up on the board of Eircom.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    A guy grew up in Ballyfermot. He left and became very rich and successful. He moved back to Ballyfermot to stay true to where he was from. But now all his neighbours just thought he was a rich dickhead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    What's hypocritical about it?
    Not redistributing the wealth, entering the free market.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Not redistributing the wealth, entering the free market.

    What's hypocritical about that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    What is a champagne socialist?

    Sounds like a rich dudes who says they care about the little dudes and we should all earn the same but infact are just paying lip service to look good to their peers and would never support such equality.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Richard Boyd Barrett is an absolute text book example. Wealthy upbringing, sent to private school, lives in a house worth 1m+ with high walls, earns over 100k a year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    What's hypocritical about that?
    "I know full well what she means but I'll be obtuse for the craic."


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Roger Waters.

    /Job done

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Clare Daly objecting to social housing near her mothers leafy estate is definitely a prime example


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Clare Daly objecting to social housing near her mothers leafy estate is definitely a prime example
    Clare Daly isn't a socialist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Clare Daly objecting to social housing near her mothers leafy estate is definitely a prime example


    Clare "daddy was a senior army officer at the Curragh but I put on a Dublin accent to get votes" Daly?



    Yeah actually, she's a good example.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Clare Daly objecting to social housing near her mothers leafy estate is definitely a prime example
    Oh my god I didn't know about that. Hilarious!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Clare "daddy was a senior army officer at the Curragh but I put on a Dublin accent to get votes" Daly?



    Yeah actually, she's a good example.
    I hate people who do that; but weirdly I don't hate people from knackeragua who learn to tone it down - maybe I'm a hypocrite.







    O'Cuiv is another one. I'm from South Dublin but I'll pretend to be from Clare.


    What's going on with Michael D's accent?
    Is that a normal Limerick accent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Oh my god I didn't know about that. Hilarious!
    Probably made up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,178 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Probably made up.

    claredaly.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Probably made up.

    Doesn't look like it anyway : Linky


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    jimgoose wrote: »
    claredaly.jpg




    Thansk jimgoose


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    bladespin wrote: »
    Doesn't look like it anyway : Linky
    What a hypocritical bitch!




    I hope she loses her deposit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Champagne socialist? Do we all not enjoy the finer things in life?

    Can I not hold certain opinion if I enjoy the occasional Piedmont white truffle? Can we not all drink from the cup of finely aged cognac that is life without having our motivations questioned?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    A rich individual who likes spending other peoples money to hypocritically virtue signal his or her way through life.
    Bono, Geldof and Peter Sutherland are typical of these individuals.
    For example, Bono has been known to lecture on the environment, but flew his cowboy hat from Ireland to the USA by private jet because he forgot it.
    All three of them have said Ireland should take unlimited migrants into the country. Who is going to pay for it? Certainly not Bono as he moved his tax dealings out of Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Although I don't suppose the daft left will raise more than a blip in this election.

    We don't have an aristocracy so in an Irish context it's mostly someone of a modest middle-class background taking up with Sinn Fein or other even more to the left party.

    Michael D Higgins and Mary Robinson would be prime examples

    Most of the journalists in this country fit the description too, middle class urban backgrounds, like to think they know what is best for the population by having the state involved in most aspects of their lives, given to eulogising the likes of travellers who they see as exotic but have zero direct first hand experience of.

    The Labour Party, Green Party and soc dems is where most of their votes go, SF are too scary for them but not as scary as FF, FF are that dreadful thing to a caviar bolsheveik, concerned primarily with the parish - local as opposed to the international


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    I don't necessarily think you have to be from a wealthy background. The heads of the various unions making hundreds of thousands of euros in salary, like David Begg, for example always struck me as classic champagne socialists. Likewise for the heads of the various charities.

    Fergus Finlay is an archetypal champagne socialist


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    65535 wrote: »
    Standing around ?

    In the middle of the day ?
    NO - they were protesting about another bill for a service

    THAT IS ALREADY PAID FOR

    You might as well expect electricity and gas to be free


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Boyd Barrett and co who come from well off backgrounds yet campaign for people in poorer communities are despised by those who fancy themselves as elite because they are seen as class traitors.

    I always thought people like Dick Spring was what a champagne socialist was. Somebody campaigning on left-wing policies (despite going into power with right-wing parties) and yet ending up on the board of Eircom.

    There is no evidence boyd barret lives a rich lifestyle, he's a fool but not a champagne socialist


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Clare Daly isn't a socialist.

    WTF else would you call her, she also doesn't fit the profile of a champagne socialist

    It's a way of carrying yourself, not just ones upbringing


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    A rich individual who likes spending other peoples money to hypocritically virtue signal his or her way through life.
    Bono, Geldof and Peter Sutherland are typical of these individuals.
    For example, Bono has been known to lecture on the environment, but flew his cowboy hat from Ireland to the USA by private jet because he forgot it.
    All three of them have said Ireland should take unlimited migrants into the country. Who is going to pay for it? Certainly not Bono as he moved his tax dealings out of Ireland.

    Bono has never espoused socialist politics - ideology, nor has Bob geldof

    People have too broad a definition of what a champagne socialist is


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