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What is a champagne socialist?

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    #92
    10000maniacs
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Bono has never espoused socialist politics - ideology, nor has Bob geldof

    People have too broad a definition of what a champagne socialist is

    And you have a very narrow view as to what socialism is.
    Socialism can refer to different things such as an economic system, a type of society, a philosophical outlook, a collection of moral values and ideals, or even a certain kind of human character. 


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    #93
    Yamanoto
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    Phoebas wrote: »

    In reality, especially in Ireland, they don't really exist

    Always figured Dick Spring was just a creature of myth & legend alright


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    #94
    Mad_maxx
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    10000maniacs wrote: »
    And you have a very narrow view as to what socialism is.
    Socialism can refer to different things such as an economic system, a type of society, a philosophical outlook, a collection of moral values and ideals, or even a certain kind of human character. 

    "what is a champagne socialist" is the topic here.

    Not socialism

    I would consider Joe Higgins to be a socialist, he may live in a private house however


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    #95
    EmmetSpiceland
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    All the talk of Murphy, Boyd-Barrett, or O’Broin being “champagne socialists” is nonsense.

    The three best “examples” I can think of would be President Higgins, Pat Rabbitte and Joan Burton.

    Although, I’d class them as “champagne, and smoked salmon, socialists”. A whole “cut” above the rest.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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    #96
    Mad_maxx
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    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    All the talk of Murphy, Boyd-Barrett, or O’Broin being “champagne socialists” is nonsense.

    The three best “examples” I can think of would be President Higgins, Pat Rabbitte and Joan Burton.

    Although, I’d class them as “champagne, and smoked salmon, socialists”. A whole “cut” above the rest.

    Joan Burton doesnt fit the profile , making tough decisions in a time of crisis isnt a champagne socialists style.


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    #97
    s7ryf3925pivug
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    In the words of John Craven, 'Champagne for my socialist friends, real pain for my shaman friends.'


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