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Election called for Saturday 8 February

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    #1892
    KrustyUCC
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    We got the first candidate to our door tonight

    The Irish Freedom party


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    #1893
    Idbatterim
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    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    We got the first candidate to our door tonight

    The Irish Freedom party

    Jesus , what would the leaders that achieved freedom for this country , reckon of the self serving rats that have run this country for the last few decades. Couldn’t get two bigger extremes!


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    #1894
    NIMAN
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    Looks like the weather is to be rough for Saturday.

    Might stop a few folk bothering to come out?



    After a mostly dry start on Saturday morning, heavy rain and strong and gusty southerly winds will move eastwards over the country bringing a risk of very strong squally winds, with gales along all coasts and strong gale force winds along the northwest coast. Some of the rain turning wintry in parts of Ulster for a very short time. The rain possibly lingering into the evening in parts of Leinster and Munster.


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    #1895
    thequarefellow
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    NIMAN wrote: »
    Looks like the weather is to be rough for Saturday.

    Might stop a few folk bothering to come out?



    After a mostly dry start on Saturday morning, heavy rain and strong and gusty southerly winds will move eastwards over the country bringing a risk of very strong squally winds, with gales along all coasts and strong gale force winds along the northwest coast. Some of the rain turning wintry in parts of Ulster for a very short time. The rain possibly lingering into the evening in parts of Leinster and Munster.

    More likely to keep students in bed than stop the grey haired brigade from getting out. Unfortunately.


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    #1896
    Yurt2
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    It will be interesting to see how the Saturday election affects turnout. My instinct is it will be higher than usual which will play against FG


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    #1897
    iamwhoiam
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    thequarefellow wrote: »
    More likely to keep students in bed than stop the grey haired brigade from getting out. Unfortunately.

    Why unfortunetely ? I am retired ,( no grey hair yet) and am well capable of making up my mind who I would prefer to run my country . ? Seen three recessions and raised three kids during one almighty one and have just as many brain cells and most .


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    #1898
    Plumbthedepths
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    Shades of 2007, Martin has a problem with the Central Bank. The rules are there because of the mess his party made. Hopefully the bank tells him to do one.


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/central-bank-wants-us-all-to-be-renting-martin-in-dig-at-regulator3893206938932130-38931601.html


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    #1899
    Yurt2
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    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Why unfortunetely ? I am retired ,( no grey hair yet) and am well capable of making up my mind who I would prefer to run my country . ? Seen three recessions and raised three kids during one almighty one and have just as many brain cells and most .


    I think his point might be the grey vote has been a hegemonic influence on Irish politics and parties through sheer weight of numbers and age distribution among among the population pyramid.

    To be slightly unkind for a moment, a lot of younger folks don't exactly feel that cohort think all that much about the challenges young people face and are more focused on pension goodies etc that parties inevitable throw the way of the older at election time.

    That's not necessarily my opinion, but it's a widely held sentiment.


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    #1900
    thequarefellow
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    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Why unfortunetely ? I am retired ,( no grey hair yet) and am well capable of making up my mind who I would prefer to run my country . ? Seen three recessions and raised three kids during one almighty one and have just as many brain cells and most .

    I'm fairly grey haired myself actually:)
    But I want FF and FG to get a hiding at this election and older people are generally more inclined to vote for them, younger people are more inclined to vote for others (yes, only generally speaking). And that's why I hope more young people get out and vote this time.

    Apologies, I have nothing at all against older people voting, and I admire that they do it in such strong numbers. Younger voters should take a lesson.


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    #1901
    thequarefellow
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Shades of 2007, Martin has a problem with the Central Bank. The rules are there because of the mess his party made. Hopefully the bank tells him to do one.


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/central-bank-wants-us-all-to-be-renting-martin-in-dig-at-regulator3893206938932130-38931601.html

    I shudder at the thought of Meehawl as Taoiseach. The complete lack of accountability for FF mistakes means that we are destined to repeat history under his rule.


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    #1902
    Plumbthedepths
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    thequarefellow wrote: »
    I shudder at the thought of Meehawl as Taoiseach. The complete lack of accountability for FF mistakes means that we are destined to repeat history under his rule.

    The CB is supposed to be independent, if this clown gets his way it's bust all over again. Without doubt he will be the next Taoiseach but all ready he is attacking the rules of the CB.


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    #1903
    Loafing Oaf
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    Yurt! wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see how the Saturday election affects turnout. My instinct is it will be higher than usual which will play against FG

    Presumably their calculation that people who 'get up early' and would likely be FG-leaning might find it easier to get round to voting on the weekend...


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    #1904
    Plumbthedepths
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Presumably their calculation that people who 'get up early' and would likely be FG-leaning might find it easier to get round to voting on the weekend...

    If those are the same people who get up early that Leo claimed he wanted to help ( but didn't) he might be sorry.


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    #1905
    Loafing Oaf
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    If those are the same people who get up early that Leo claimed he wanted to help ( but didn't) he might be sorry.

    He'll be hoping they'll continue to vote FG on the 'best of a bad lot' principle...


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    #1906
    Plumbthedepths
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    He'll be hoping they'll continue to vote FG on the 'best of a bad lot' principle...

    There's always hope I guess.


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    #1907
    Idbatterim
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    say you adopt the best of a bad lot or give vardakar one more chance, whats his plan this budget? jack up welfare further? :rolleyes:


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    #1908
    ThunbergsAreGo
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    Idbatterim wrote: »
    say you adopt the best of a bad lot or give vardakar one more chance, whats his plan this budget? jack up welfare further? :rolleyes:

    Depends what his government partners/the media/Twitter want


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    #1909
    Idbatterim
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    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    Depends what his government partners/the media/Twitter want

    yeah that explains it! I would say all the budget deliberations are basically "how much can we jack welfare up" this strarving other areas of investment and not being able to "reward workers"! These fools wouldnt know what a hard decicion was. If they had made some, they would have walked back into government as the main party


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    #1910
    Loafing Oaf
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    I stuck a tenner on FF/FG and FF minority governments, both @ 16/1. Just think the next government will have to be some form of arrangement between FF and FG again.

    Well the former is in to second favourite @ 4/1 but I still think it's a long shot. Also put a bit on FF/Lab/Green/SDs, 16/1 as well, because I reckon it's the most likely combo if FF do a bit better than expected...


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    #1911
    Idbatterim
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    FG if they managed to win the most seats this term, could redeem themselves somewhat. The amount of schemes now with planning or applying for them is huge in dublin, that wont solve the affordability issue though. Sort that and get Bus connects and dublin metro solved, and I would be happy. Think they have left it too late though. My opinion is, that if people are shifting from FG to FF (for a change) it is a serious mistake...


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    #1912
    pjohnson
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    Idbatterim wrote: »
    FG if they managed to win the most seats this term, could redeem themselves somewhat. The amount of schemes now with planning or applying for them is huge in dublin, that wont solve the affordability issue though. Sort that and get Bus connects and dublin metro solved, and I would be happy. Think they have left it too late though. My opinion is, that if people are shifting from FG to FF (for a change) it is a serious mistake...
    FG wont touch property. They want landlords votes so wont dare lower/ threaten the rental market.


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    #1913
    James Brown
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    pjohnson wrote: »
    FG wont touch property. They want landlords votes so wont dare lower/ threaten the rental market.

    It's about making money for inappropriate friends and 1 in 4 TD's.


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    #1914
    Idbatterim
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    pjohnson wrote: »
    FG wont touch property. They want landlords votes so wont dare lower/ threaten the rental market.

    you are preaching to the choir, but if they dont change tact, come next election, assuming they win the most seats this time, they will be junior party or opposition...

    basically younger people screwed by the housing crisis, getting as good as no talk cuts from that liar, they are already deserting FG in serious numbers... Its not sustainable for FG


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    #1915
    Idbatterim
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    It's about making money for inappropriate friends and 1 in 4 TD's.

    nearly 100% of decision makers here are homeowners, probably more relevant than being landlords!


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    #1916
    pjohnson
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    Idbatterim wrote: »
    you are preaching to the choir, but if they dont change tact, come next election, assuming they win the most seats this time, they will be junior party or opposition...

    basically younger people screwed by the housing crisis, getting as good as no talk cuts from that liar, they are already deserting FG in serious numbers... Its not sustainable for FG

    Younger people are deserting Ireland. And I wonder why theres that pension bomb due to a lack of young workers to sustain the older generation hmmmm?


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    #1917
    Loafing Oaf
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    Idbatterim wrote: »
    FG if they managed to win the most seats this term,

    Not gonna happen, FF 1/14 to be the biggest party...


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    #1918
    xredmanlfcx
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    I've a question regarding what happens to surplus votes.


    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/elections_and_referenda/voting/proportional_representation.html


    Halfway down that link states the rules surrounding it.



    So, like the example says, person B gets 300 votes (30% of person A's 1000 surplus). Person A had 6000 votes, so does person B get 1,800 votes physically placed in it's box (even though it's only worth 300 votes)? The reason I am asking is in case person B's votes have to be counted again once candidate B is elected or eliminated, in order to give additional votes to candidate C, candidate D etc.



    When/if person A's votes are counted for the third time, there's a big difference depending on whether it is 300 or 1800 votes going to be counted, regardless for what number of votes they are equal to after the percentage is taken into account.


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    #1919
    golfball37
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    xredmanlfcx wrote: »
    I've a question regarding what happens to surplus votes.


    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/elections_and_referenda/voting/proportional_representation.html


    Halfway down that link states the rules surrounding it.



    So, like the example says, person B gets 300 votes (30% of person A's 1000 surplus). Person A had 6000 votes, so does person B get 1,800 votes physically placed in it's box (even though it's only worth 300 votes)? The reason I am asking is in case person B's votes have to be counted again once candidate B is elected or eliminated, in order to give additional votes to candidate C, candidate D etc.



    When/if person A's votes are counted for the third time, there's a big difference depending on whether it is 300 or 1800 votes going to be counted, regardless for what number of votes they are equal to after the percentage is taken into account.

    They proportion a surplus


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    #1920
    orchard farm
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    pjohnson wrote: »
    FG wont touch property. They want landlords votes so wont dare lower/ threaten the rental market.

    Shur thats aload of ****e


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    #1921
    xredmanlfcx
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    golfball37 wrote: »
    They proportion a surplus
    How many pages are physically given to candidate B from candidate A? 1800 or 300?


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