Election 2020 Sligo/Leitrim

Necro

worlds goodest teecher wrote:

Not one candidate called to my apartment. A vote lost for them I'm afraid.

Count yourself lucky imo.

I had the pleasure of the lad from the National Party landing to my doorstep spouting out his stance on immigration and the EU.

I'm normally polite enough to canvassers as they're just doing a job mostly but I couldnt control myself from laughing at this fella unfortunately:pac:

I had I think 5 canvassers in total, Kenny's, Scanlon's, Perry's, Gino O'Boyles lot and the National Party lad.

Can't see myself voting any of the above tbh (possibly a low preference for one).

Just voted. I felt strangely depressed looking at the options. I made 5 selections, 2 of which I’ve never heard of before, young Independents. I just couldn’t vote for any of the old school. I’ll tune into Ocean FM
later on in vain hope.

Necro

Voted myself this morning, went for an Indie and FG, gave a lower preference to Labour and that was me done and done.

I'm not a dyed-in-the-wool party political animal, I'm just hoping for improvement for the good of the country and for us all, whoever gets in. We might possibly see a change in old traditional voting patterns later this evening via the Exit Polls? Happy listening Necro!

Necro

Ameer Quick Tenor wrote:

I'm not a dyed-in-the-wool party political animal, I'm just hoping for improvement for the good of the country for us all, whoever gets in. We might possibly see a change in old traditional voting patterns later this evening via the Exit Polls? Happy listening Necro!

I think it might be likely. Delighted with Ocean FM running an exit poll for this constituency, should be very good listening tomorrow for sure.

Happy listening yourself

Might be of some interest.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058051939#

Class of 82

Didn't vote. First time not to do so in a general election but none of the candidates appealed to me.

rizzodun

Class of 82 wrote: »

Didn't vote. First time not to do so in a general election but none of the candidates appealed to me.

I do find this attitude disappointing. I'm of the opinion that if you don't want to vote, make your way to the polling station, get your vote and spoil it, at least you made the effort to go and could find yourself in the booth thinking hard and making a decision.

Not a swipe at you mind, just how I think about it.

Class of 82

I get the point you are making but I wasn't leaving the house in that weather just to scribble on a polling card!

It's my opinion that the level of public representation for Sligo has been very poor since I came of voting age and the candidates presented to me this time around didn't make me think it would be any different for this term.

EmptyTree

Anyone any idea what the link is to the Sligo exit poll? Apparently it should be available online, but no sign of it anywhere.

https://www.rte.ie/news/campaign-daily/2020/0205/1113286-sligo-it-ocean-fm-to-produce-exit-poll/


Update: found it!



https://mobile.twitter.com/OceanFmIreland/status/1226266084526952460

sligojoek

https://www.oceanfm.ie/2020/02/08/exclusive-martin-kenny-of-sinn-fein-set-to-be-a-clear-poll-topper-in-sligo-leitrim/

Sinn Fein’s, Martin Kenny, is set to be the big winner in the Sligo-Leitrim constituency, according to an exclusive exit poll published this evening.

The IT Sligo-Ocean FM Exit Poll gives Kenny a first preference vote of 21.1%, way ahead of the second placed candidate, Fianna Fail’s Marc MacSharry, on 13.7%.

Eamon Scanlon of Fianna Fail is on 11.8%, and former TD and MEP, Marian Harkin, is on 11.2%.

The poll shows that Fine Gael will be battling hard to retain even one seat in the constituency, with party candidates Frank Feighan and Thomas Walsh on 10.5% and 6.4% support respectively.

Former Fine Gael Minister, John Perry, who is standing as an Independent candidate, is on just 2%.

The survey involved a sample of 978 voters across every part of the vast constituency, which also includes South Donegal and North Roscommon, It was carried out throughout the day by students and staff of IT Sligo.

The margin of error is +/- 3.13%

sligojoek

It's being discussed on Ocean now.

THey're saying Kenny will get in on first count.

sligojoek

Necro

Delighted Harkin did so poorly. If those numbers hold up she will struggle to get a seat as I'm not sure where her transfers will come from

Pretzill

Not so happy about Kenny to be honest I don't understand the swing towards SF - perhaps it's an age thing. Looks like we may be returning two FF's I would say that's against the run of the country, I don't understand that either - as usual the ind I voted for doesn't even feature in the exit poll and I thought this could be their year. Oh well, I reckon we'll all be voting again within the year.

shanec1928

Necro wrote: »

Delighted Harkin did so poorly. If those numbers hold up she will struggle to get a seat as I'm not sure where her transfers will come from

She’s still in line to possibly take a seat. She will be very transfer friendly.

People can’t be surprised with Sinn Fein here. There has always been a strong enough SF vote. Plus Leitrim were always going to get behind one of there own.

Necro

Pretzill wrote: »

Not so happy about Kenny to be honest I don't understand the swing towards SF - perhaps it's an age thing. Looks like we may be returning two FF's I would say that's against the run of the country, I don't understand that either - as usual the ind I voted for doesn't even feature in the exit poll and I thought this could be their year. Oh well, I reckon we'll all be voting again within the year.

I think... if the numbers hold up from that poll we'll be as you were beforehand with

2 FF
1 FG
1 SF

Dunno where Harkin gets transfers from to get her over the line before one of the FG candidates (Feighan) catches her

Tbh Pretzill the field was too dense with Independents, 6 and Bree who is essentially an Ind was always gonna split that vote massively and it seems SF picked up a huge anti government vote too

Necro

shanec1928 wrote: »

She’s still in line to take a seat. She will be very transfer friendly.

People can’t be surprised with Sinn Fein here. There has always been a strong enough SF vote. Plus Leitrim were always going to get behind one of there own.

I disagree with that completely, Independents are by nature a larger personal vote.

Not surprised about the SF vote at all, more disappointed tbh

Pretzill

I knew Kenny would get in - but countrywide it's looking like a big vote for SF I don't understand that, is what I meant. And yep it looks like SF, 2 FF and Harkin?

rizzodun

Not sure why people are disappointed with Kenny. He was a major voice in speaking out regarding the situation in An Garda Siochana and also spoke out against the anti immigration stance in Leitrim. Which did result on attacks on his home.

Rightly or wrongly he argued his stance in light of intimidation.

Maybe I'm missing something other than the party he's a member of?

Pretzill

It's all about the party he's from and that there are people voting for them now who seem completely ignorant of our past.

But I'm not surprised in fairness from a Leitrim perspective who else did they have to vote for - a few religious led pro lifers? Or FG.

Necro

Leitrim had Ellis from FF too who seems to have been soundly kicked to the curb. Will never understand their 3 candidate strategy here, when they gave Scanlon Leitrim in 2007 he topped the poll but since then they keep trying to run a Leitrim candidate who gets broadly rejected.

rizzodun

Pretzill wrote: »

It's all about the party he's from and that there are people voting for them now who seem completely ignorant of our past.

But I'm not surprised in fairness from a Leitrim perspective who else did they have to vote for - a few religious led pro lifers? Or FG.

Don't read up on the history if FG then... Or FF for that matter.

Pretzill

rizzodun wrote: »

Don't read up on the history if FG then... Or FF for that matter.

I don't have to. What a strange comment. I have been voting for 30 years I have never voted for either.

rizzodun

Pretzill wrote: »

I don't have to. What a strange comment. I have been voting for 30 years I have never voted for either.

I just mean the history argument is quite acceptable for SF but never mention for either of the other two, which I find kind of hypocritical. Vote or don't vote on policies.

Not aimed at you, just the comment you made.

Necro

I see Independent James Conway has revealed his true colours on Facebook already.

Embarrassment of a candidate.

rizzodun

Now deleted. I guess he realised insulting the electorate wasn't the best thing to do if wanting to have half a chance of any votes in the future.

AlmightyCushion

What did he say?

sligojoek

I heard Eileen mMagnier on the news earlier saying that somewhere in Leitrim had a turnout of 73%. There must have been a huge motivation of voters down there. Huge SF vote in S Donegal too. That and the normal SF in the rest of the constituency vote went a long way.

I thought Walsh would have done better. He was first out of the traps with posters from Sligo to Bundoran at midnight of the announcement. He was out around Grange, Cliffoney, Mullaghmore and Tullaghan several evenings. THere were mini blue jacketed groups going round town yesterday morning handing out leaflets.

Perry's canvassing team was a young lad in a hoodie going around dropping in leaflets at lunchtime. Only for I was back from the dentist's I'd have called him back to discuss the issues of the day.

Marian Harkin was clever enough to get on TV at least twice a few days before the election.

What has she ever done for the NW that was noteworthy?

Anyway. Looking forward to all the coverage tomorrow and May the best man 'OR WOMAN' (c) Joe Duffy , win.

Fann Linn

Pretzill wrote: »

I knew Kenny would get in - but countrywide it's looking like a big vote for SF I don't understand that, is what I meant. And yep it looks like SF, 2 FF and Harkin?

Health.
Housing.
Insurance
Childcare
Black & Tans

There's a few reasons to start with.

Necro

AlmightyCushion wrote:

What did he say?

Will post it tomorrow but the gist of it is that anyone not voting for him is in fact a moron. Full of ironic typos as well.

Amazing that someone who wanted such revolution isn't prepared to accept a democratic result (and not a single vote counted yet)

UDAWINNER

Necro wrote: »

Will post it tomorrow but the gist of it is that anyone not voting for him is in fact a moron. Full of ironic typos as well.

Amazing that someone who wanted such revolution isn't prepared to accept a democratic result (and not a single vote counted yet)

Sounds like a great politician:D

sligojoek

Didn't one of the FG lads do something similar after the council elections?

Not a sign of him since.

AlmightyCushion

Necro wrote: »

Will post it tomorrow but the gist of it is that anyone not voting for him is in fact a moron. Full of ironic typos as well.

Amazing that someone who wanted such revolution isn't prepared to accept a democratic result (and not a single vote counted yet)

Seen it already. A friend sent it on to me. Yeah, complete clown and the ironic misspellings are hilarious. If you're going to call someone an imbecile you best spell it correctly.

littlejp

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Seen it already. A friend sent it on to me. Yeah, complete clown and the ironic misspellings are hilarious. If you're going to call someone an imbecile you best spell it correctly.

Can you post it here?

He sounds like a massive count ! Lol

rizzodun

sligojoek wrote: »

Didn't one of the FG lads do something similar after the council elections?

Not a sign of him since.

In fairness at least when he did it he got a flood of comments from people telling him it was out of order and he should rise above it. The only ironic thing was he was FG and he was giving out about people not wanting change by not voting him in.

Conways comment section of an echo chamber of same views, until he was called out on it, it didn't stay up for very long when that happened.

Love to know what he said!

Necro

I'm not sure are we allowed to post it here, will PM one of the forum mods first I think

littlejp

Necro wrote: »

I'm not sure are we allowed to post it here, will PM one of the forum mods first I think

PM it to me if you can. Have been following his campaign the whole time. Would love to see how it ended!

Its been posted here in case anyone wants to see it
https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/f188u2/slight_bitterness_from_this_independent_l/

An interesting exercise:

Says I should vote Kenny.

http://www.whichcandidate.ie/events/8/constituencies/45/candidates

shanec1928

https://twitter.com/OceanFmIreland/status/1226613222058463232

howareyakid

Expecting this count to go on for some time yet. Lots of candidates very close together after the first count and transfers will be crucial.

Pretzill

It will be interesting to see where Kenny's surplus will go. Harkin tipped to do well from it.

Pretzill

Pretzill wrote: »

It will be interesting to see where Kenny's surplus will go. Harkin tipped to do well from it.

I heard that all right, but I don't get it. I thought his would go mostly left. MH likely to not get much of a share of town votes?

Sky News reporting;
"Sinn Fein wants to exclude Ireland's major political parties, Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, from a new coalition government, its president Mary Lou McDonald has said"

When did ML say that?

howareyakid

Think Harkin will be a beneficiary as well as Ellis and other Leitrim-based candidates.

I'd say Gino will get a fair slice of Kennys town transfers.

Necro

Pretzill wrote: »

It will be interesting to see where Kenny's surplus will go. Harkin tipped to do well from it.

Seems so though I can't quite understand it.

If Scanlon doesn't do well he could very well be in trouble, the SF transfers helped him hugely last time out

shanec1928

Ameer Quick Tenor wrote: »

I heard that all right, but I don't get it. I thought his would go mostly left. MH likely to not get much of a share of town votes?

Sky News reporting;
"Sinn Fein wants to exclude Ireland's major political parties, Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, from a new coalition government, its president Mary Lou McDonald has said"

When did ML say that?

was today. But taking out of context. Preference of a left government. But would talk to ever party