Sinn Fein's Paddy Holohan and homophobia

holyhead

Funny he did an interview with Gerry Adams. I was stunned by Gerry's appearance. I went to look at it again yesterday and wonder has it been taken down? Apart from Gerry's hair needing a cut I don't see why it would have disappeared.

Plumbthedepths

blanch152 wrote: »

I have to say that when you are directing your bile at an anonymous internet poster when trying to defend a racist, homophobic, misogynist Sinn Fein councillor, you kind of need to reconsider your priorities.

Yes, you and tipptom and others can try and make me the story, and it would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.

You have a nerve to accuse me of lies, I suggest you provide a link to any defence I offered for Holahan. I think your problem is I showed you be to little different than the subject of your OP

Cazale

holyhead wrote:

Funny he did an interview with Gerry Adams. I was stunned by Gerry's appearance. I went to look at it again yesterday and wonder has it been taken down? Apart from Gerry's hair needing a cut I don't see why it would have disappeared.

He has taken down or restricted all the video podcasts.

tipptom

blanch152 wrote: »

I have to say that when you are directing your bile at an anonymous internet poster when trying to defend a racist, homophobic, misogynist Sinn Fein councillor, you kind of need to reconsider your priorities.

Yes, you and tipptom and others can try and make me the story, and it would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.

Oh,Stonewall Blanche is back in talking about "your kind" reveals the real type of person you are and your motives.

The champion for Gay rights lol

Just a slight perusal of his posting history where you will struggle to find him not mentioning SF will tell you what his real agenda is couched in his concern for gay rights.

Pathetic indeed.

Treppen

holyhead wrote: »

Funny he did an interview with Gerry Adams. I was stunned by Gerry's appearance. I went to look at it again yesterday and wonder has it been taken down? Apart from Gerry's hair needing a cut I don't see why it would have disappeared.

Yes, that would be highly unusual for Sinn Fein members making things disappear.

facehugger99

tipptom wrote: »

Oh,Stonewall Blanche is back in talking about "your kind" reveals the real type of person you are and your motives.

The champion for Gay rights lol

Just a slight perusal of his posting history where you will struggle to find him not mentioning SF will tell you what his real agenda is couched in his concern for gay rights.

Pathetic indeed.

Why did you put "your kind" in quotation marks when that's not what he said?


A bit of reading comprehension wouldn't go astray when you're on one of your frequent 'attack the poster' rants.

tipptom

facehugger99 wrote: »

Why did you put "your kind" in quotation marks when that's not what he said?


A bit of reading comprehension wouldn't go astray when you're on one of your frequent 'attack the poster' rants.

Says the fella who spends all his time on boards with frequent personal attacks on posters calling them "anti Brits" because they have different views on Britain's role in Irish history to yours.

You hypocrisy is laughable.

facehugger99

tipptom wrote: »

Says the fella who spends all his time on boards with frequent personal attacks on posters calling them "anti Brits" because they have different views on Britain's role in Irish history to yours.

You hypocrisy is laughable.

Did you manage to work out the ‘you kind of/your kind’ mistake yet?

Annasopra

Ironicname wrote: »

He has no evidence other than anecdotal. What should he do?

Go the gardai to tell them?

Ironicname

Joeytheparrot wrote:

Go the gardai to tell them?

With anecdotes? Ok.

pinkyeye

Augme wrote: »

For the first time ever I had strongly considered voting for them however I will rule it out now. Obviously I could be the only one but I doubt it. I think it will benefit labour overall.

I think it will benefit the Independents more than anyone. My only options for the upcoming election were Sinn Fein or Independents because I like Sinn Feins "stated" policies and don't believe in any of the other parties so the only other option is Independents.

I put "stated" policies in inverted commas because their statements and their actions just don't match up at times.

What irks me about this incident is that Mary Lou didn't suspend him over the Leo remarks but did about the victim blaming remarks. Smacks too much of "ah it's okay to take a dig at Leo even if it is about his sexuality or lineage" but "it's not okay to take a dig at women" (both literally or figuratively). :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Quite hypocritical. And I'm kind of a fan of Mary Lou but she has a hatred for Leo personally that is blinding her and not showing her in the most professional of lights.

marieholmfan

It's OK to attack Varadkar for any reason but one should be clear that one is only attacking Varadkar and not eg nifts daughter.

Hamsterchops

.....I just wonder might any other Sinn Fein candidates (past & present) have said or done anything worse than Paddy's outburst?

A rhetorical question.

Beasty

tipptom wrote: »

Oh,Stonewall Blanche is back in talking about "your kind" reveals the real type of person you are and your motives.

The champion for Gay rights lol

Just a slight perusal of his posting history where you will struggle to find him not mentioning SF will tell you what his real agenda is couched in his concern for gay rights.

Pathetic indeed.

Attack the post, not the poster

MakingMovies2

To be honest I think holohan should stand down from his position or be made to. A message should be sent that this kind of thinly veiled bigotry has no place in the Ireland of 2020. What else is to be expected of some caveman who gets punched in the head for a living I guess.

Ironicname

MakingMovies2 wrote:

To be honest I think holohan should stand down from his position or be made to. A message should be sent that this kind of thinly veiled bigotry has no place in the Ireland of 2020. What else is to be expected of some caveman who gets punched in the head for a living I guess.

Absolutely.

If anybody says something wrong or offensive, they have no place in Ireland. They should all think proper thoughts. That's the only way we can have an inclusive Ireland. With everyone thinking the same and no bad people at all.

Even if it's not offensive to everyone, once one person finds it offensive, that's enough.

Actually, did you just say imply that anybody who is involved in mixed martial arts or boxing is a caveman or that those people are of lower intellect than you and shouldn't be expected to be able to conduct themselves in a manner you think is acceptable?

That's really offensive, judgmental and bigoted too.

**** when people hold you to your own standards isn't it?

Ironicname

MakingMovies2 wrote:

To be honest I think holohan should stand down from his position or be made to. A message should be sent that this kind of thinly veiled bigotry has no place in the Ireland of 2020. What else is to be expected of some caveman who gets punched in the head for a living I guess.

Sorry, just noticed this is your first post. I wouldn't have bothered if I had seen. No need to respond.

MakingMovies2

Ironicname wrote: »

Sorry, just noticed this is your first post. I wouldn't have bothered if I had seen. No need to respond.

I don't see what difference it makes whether or not it's my first time posting but okay. I will bother responding though. What I meant was he shouldn't hold public office if those are his views. And he hasn't done the combat sports community any favors with this show of stupidity. But reducto ad absurdum away

Ironicname

MakingMovies2 wrote:

I don't see what difference it makes whether or not it's my first time posting but okay. I will bother responding though. What I meant was he shouldn't hold public office if those are his views. And he hasn't done the combat sports community any favors with this show of stupidity. But reducto ad absurdum away

Haha. Very good. Welcome to boards (!)

Ash.J.Williams

Ironicname wrote: »

He has no evidence other than anecdotal. What should he do?

not mention it at all?

ghost of ireland past

Paddy should be entitled to say what he wants.

If Leo doesn't like it Leo can commit suicide I suppose, like Bertie advised.

ohnonotgmail

ghost of ireland past wrote: »

Paddy should be entitled to say what he wants.

If Leo doesn't like it Leo can commit suicide I suppose, like Bertie advised.

Of course paddy can say what he wants. nobody has disputed that. unfortunately for paddy there are consequences when you say things your party does not approve of. So paddy is free is to say what he likes and Sinn Fein are free to suspend him.

KiKi III

ghost of ireland past wrote: »

Paddy should be entitled to say what he wants.

If Leo doesn't like it Leo can commit suicide I suppose, like Bertie advised.

If you have a podcast, I’d like to subscribe.

Plumbthedepths

ghost of ireland past wrote: »

Paddy should be entitled to say what he wants.

If Leo doesn't like it Leo can commit suicide I suppose, like Bertie advised.

So that's the thing Bertie never advised anyone to commit suicide. I suppose though if a lie is repeated often enough it takes on the truth for some.

ghost of ireland past

Leo Varadkar is hated by many people, as is Charlie Flanagan.

Charlie is the worst of all I think.

Political correctness and censorship is proving very damaging to our societies. We should not be looking to shut voices down.

RobMc59

ghost of ireland past wrote: »

Leo Varadkar is hated by many people, as is Charlie Flanagan.

Charlie is the worst of all I think.

Political correctness and censorship is proving very damaging to our societies. We should not be looking to shut voices down.

I've seen many posts criticising the Taoiseach but he always seems to come out fighting for Ireland imo.

MakingMovies2

ghost of ireland past wrote: »

Leo Varadkar is hated by many people, as is Charlie Flanagan.

Charlie is the worst of all I think.

Political correctness and censorship is proving very damaging to our societies. We should not be looking to shut voices down.

I'm guessing the reason most people hate Varadker come from issues around his sexuality and race. Like mister Holohan so eloquently displayed.

Tired Gardener

ghost of ireland past wrote: »

Paddy should be entitled to say what he wants.

If Leo doesn't like it Leo can commit suicide I suppose, like Bertie advised.

He can say what ever crosses his mind, however that doesn't mean that people have to accept it. Freedom of speech isn't in danger... he is just finding that the views he expressed have consequences. He can (and more than likely does) still say the things that have got him into bother. No one is stopping him from saying those things. Just that those willing to entertain his drivel will be less and less.

I do find that your user name is quite apt, as you seem to be defending some rather 'backwards' views.

Ironicname

MakingMovies2 wrote:

I'm guessing the reason most people hate Varadker come from issues around his sexuality and race. Like mister Holohan so eloquently displayed.

Or maybe because he's untrustworthy, has a history of saying things purely because it is good for his popularity regardless of whether he believes it and will follow through with it, and is generally not a good leader?

No. It's definitely because he is gay and not white.

KiKi III

Ironicname wrote: »

Or maybe because he's untrustworthy, has a history of saying things purely because it is good for his popularity regardless of whether he believes it and will follow through with it, and is generally not a good leader?

No. It's definitely because he is gay and not white.

And if this councillor had been on a rant about Leo's failures in housing, homelessness and health, I'd be right behind him.