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The murder of Keane Mulready Woods.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,540 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I wonder how they feel about the Godfather now.

    Blaming everyone but those closer to home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭Abba987


    When parents chose a criminal traveller who they are not related to, as godfather to their child, it says it all, the young lad was probably lauded at home for his criminal endeavor.

    Who is his godfather ?
    Ive seen very little on family other than he has a sister. Not a mention if he was the youngest of 10 or 2. Presumably if he has older siblings there would be an all out war after this

    I have no sympathy in general for any of these low lifes but to cut up a body is beyond comprehension. How evil are these people


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Blaming everyone but those closer to home.


    I think they need to look at themselves.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4 rickross


    whats the backround to these droggerboggers?
    is it just allout mayhem with them sellin dope and mincin’ each other, or do they have little business’s
    property whatever? like i take it they dont have brains with this carry on


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭Feisar


    KiKi III wrote: »
    I suppose if you were born into a gangland family, by 17 you’d have escaped and be putting yourself through college by working in Tesco?

    And no, I’m not excusing anything he did. Regardless, he didn’t deserve to be murdered in cold blood.

    Can you explain this to me please?

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 30,602 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I love the way the media talk about the clothes , there only imitation brands !
    Could u see that scum in BT’s

    Probably yes.
    Out of those who'd I know who'd you question there money they are generally full of designer brands, gold taps, chains, etc.
    Those who'd well off through other means aren't as flashy in my experience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,602 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    anewme wrote: »
    They are most certainly not imitations.

    He had a Hugo Boss tracksuit 250, Gucci cap 250, Canada Goose Coat 1300.

    These are the trappings of criminality. That's what is luring people like him in.

    Wonder if his parents did not wonder how their son could afford a 1300 coat with no income.?

    I'm unsure to be honest.
    I know if I brought that coat home and said it was worth €50 they'd have believed me.
    Even Today CAB seized a pair of black runners worth €650. They don't look it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,156 ✭✭✭screamer


    It’s the Gardai having to clean up this stuff that I feel most sorry for, them and the ordinary decent people in the area who must feel like they are living in a nightmare.
    Those who are part of the feuding gangs, no sympathy, they know the risks, they are happy to accept them for monetary gain, and with free will their future or lack of, is their own problem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,540 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    The whole attitude to drugs in Ireland is dreadful and only fosters these gangs on
    Look at the quays, Smithfield and so on in Dublin - rampant drug dealing going on and nothing done about it. Sure the garda say there's no point going after the small guys but by god it's not like they are cracking down on the gangs - for every seizure they publicize there's 10 times as much they missed.
    It just needs a massive crack down on this - raid them all, to the courts and get a judge who doesn't believe every sob story out of their mouths
    There is no culpability in Ireland and judges included - concurrent sentences, the most stupid thing ever thought of


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭1o059k7ewrqj3n


    I don’t see how people can call him a 17 year old child. Was he to magically turn into an adult at 18? Obviously the law has certain markers that make 18 an adult age but 16 onwards is pretty much young adult.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I'm unsure to be honest.
    I know if I brought that coat home and said it was worth €50 they'd have believed me.
    Even Today CAB seized a pair of black runners worth €650. They don't look it.

    Things haven't got to this stage without them having any idea of what their "little angle" is up to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,156 ✭✭✭screamer


    Steyr 556 wrote: »
    I don’t see how people can call him a 17 year old child. Was he to magically turn into an adult at 18? Obviously the law has certain markers that make 18 an adult age but 16 onwards is pretty much young adult.

    And exactly why the age of criminal responsibility needs to be lowered. He may have been a child in age, but he was far from that in his deeds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭Boxcar_Willie


    Team A Drogheda
    Maguires (one in wheelchair after hit)
    Cornelius Price
    Keane Mulready (dead - Maguire godson)
    Team A Coolock
    Clayo Lynch
    Flashy baby crew
    Mr Big / Keith Finn (dead)

    Team B Drogheda
    Paul Crosby
    Boylan brothers
    Team B Coolock
    Robbie Lawlor (gun for hire)
    Richie Carberry (his brother in law - dead)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Team A Drogheda
    Maguires (one in wheelchair after hit)
    Cornelius Price
    Keane Mulready (dead - Maguire godson)
    Team A Coolock
    Clayo Lynch
    Flashy baby crew
    Mr Big / Keith Finn (dead)

    Team B Drogheda
    Paul Crosby
    Boylan brothers
    Team B Coolock
    Robbie Lawlor (gun for hire)
    Richie Carberry (his brother in law - dead)

    I don't mean to be callous or mean at this time I don't wish anyone ill will. Its terrible about the lad. But I mean to say, you would think they might realize going straight is easier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Feisar wrote: »
    Can you explain this to me please?


    We believe in the rule of law. Not vigilantism.

    This wasn't justice it was criminality.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭trashcan


    rob316 wrote: »
    As long as it's between themselves I don't really care.

    That's the thing though, once they feel that they can kill with impunity there is every chance that it won't stay between themselves. Anyone who they feel has so much as looked crooked at them becomes a target. I understand the lack of sympathy for people involved in gangland, absolutely I do, and it can be fairly argued that they knew what they were getting into, but it's the escalation of violence and the total lack of fear of any consequences that is worrying. Innocent people will almost inevitably end up getting hurt I fear.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I don't mean to be callous or mean at this time I don't wish anyone ill will. Its terrible about the lad. But I mean to say, you would think they might realize going straight is easier.

    The monetary stakes are too high. Plus the status.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    anewme wrote: »
    The monetary stakes are too high. Plus the status.

    I understand. They must value human life including their own and their kids lives very little.

    I don't envy that perception. It sounds ...like hell. To have that world view I think its hellish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    Feisar wrote: »
    Can you explain this to me please?

    Sure thing. I don’t believe anyone deserves to be brutally murdered and dismembered. If, as the papers are suggesting, the purpose was to “send a message”, I think at the very least they could have chosen a victim old enough to legally drink.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭Feisar


    We believe in the rule of law. Not vigilantism.

    This wasn't justice it was criminality.

    The poster wasn't talking about criminality/rule of law. They said he didn't deserve this. Um, yea he did.

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    trashcan wrote: »
    That's the thing though, once they feel that they can kill with impunity there is every chance that it won't stay between themselves. Anyone who they feel has so much as looked crooked at them becomes a target. I understand the lack of sympathy for people involved in gangland, absolutely I do, and it can be fairly argued that they knew what they were getting into, but it's the escalation of violence and the total lack of fear of any consequences that is worrying. Innocent people will almost inevitably end up getting hurt I fear.

    Its already been happening. Even very young children. I remember hear about a six yr old shot in the neck in Dublin years ago. It happened in Ballyfermot.

    A man in his mid 30s shot him. The bullet was meant for another man but the children were out playing in the same space.

    The little boy survived thank god.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭Feisar


    KiKi III wrote: »
    Sure thing. I don’t believe anyone deserves to be brutally murdered and dismembered. If, as the papers are suggesting, the purpose was to “send a message”, I think at the very least they could have chosen a victim old enough to legally drink.

    I doubt he took the pledge in fairness.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Feisar wrote: »
    The poster wasn't talking about criminality/rule of law. They said he didn't deserve this. Um, yea he did.


    So you think we should bring back the death penalty and not only any death penalty we should dismember people?

    No one deserves this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,540 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    KiKi III wrote: »
    Sure thing. I don’t believe anyone deserves to be brutally murdered and dismembered. If, as the papers are suggesting, the purpose was to “send a message”, I think at the very least they could have chosen a victim old enough to legally drink.

    Get over pretending this is some little kid they killed, the other thread you are demonizing a man for playing on his phone, you have some weird moral levels


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    I despair at the fact that I live in a society where a 17yr old teenager could be that deeply ingrained in a criminal gang that he ended up kidnapped, tortured, brutally murdered and wasn’t even granted dignity in death because his body chopped up & dumped like rubbish, with the whole thing caught on video to boot.
    It’s like something out of the cartels in Mexico.

    I’m not excusing his wrong doings but that child had no hope of becoming a decent, morally balanced person when you look at who raised him & what kind of influences were around him growing up.
    He was failed by everyone.

    We all hate the idea of living in a nanny state but some serious questions need to be raised on a nationwide level on the consequences of poor parenting, and increasing the level of state intervention when parents fail their kids if necessary.

    Túsla is under-resourced, overstretched and its way too hard for them to remove children from dysfunctional homes. So many children end up falling between the cracks.

    I know it’s possible and not unheard of for kids who grew up in decent loving homes to turn to crime, but more often than not these scumbags come from generations of families where violence, addiction issues, domestic abuse, no respect for the law, and a lack of employment/education are seen as the norm.

    This is the problem, and so the cycle continues. This will only escalate before it gets better and that’s terrifying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Get over pretending this is some little kid they killed, the other thread you are demonizing a man for playing on his phone, you have some weird moral levels
    It will be some little kid next time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Its already been happening. Even very young children. I remember hear about a six yr old shot in the neck in Dublin years ago. It happened in Ballyfermot.

    A man in his mid 30s shot him. The bullet was meant for another man but the children were out playing in the same space.

    The little boy survived thank god.

    That little lad unfortunately is now in a wheelchair because of his injury


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,602 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    anewme wrote: »
    Things haven't got to this stage without them having any idea of what their "little angle" is up to.

    I totally get where your coming from.
    I was just trying to say that tat isn't worth the price!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    Feisar wrote: »
    I doubt he took the pledge in fairness.

    Probably not. The wider point was that if he was killed to send a message, it wasn’t even retribution for anything he had done - it seems like they just thought about what would hurt his godfather the most.

    He was obviously no angel, but he had no more choice about the family he was born into than Prince Harry (or any of us), and he’d have a harder time walking away from them than Harry did.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭Feisar


    So you think we should bring back the death penalty and not only any death penalty we should dismember people?

    No one deserves this.

    Deserve isn't the right word however tramps like this usually come to a bad end and it's to be expected. It's not like he didn't know this was a possibility. Gangland killings have been to the forefront of the news in recent years. If I kick a wasps nest, I'm probably going to get stung. You'd hardly be shocked about it if I was would you?

    First they came for the socialists...



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