Peter Casey Minister for Health

drunkmonkey

He's the minister of Health we need. I can see union chiefs going crazy if he's appointed but it'll be great for workers on the ground and patients.

osarusan

Peter Casey's magical powers grow stronger with every election he doesn't win.

Boggles

So he thinks he is going to win against Leo and whatever government is formed, probably FF + others, they are going to make him Minister of Health?

:pac:

is_that_so

Boggles wrote: »

So he thinks he is going to win against Leo and whatever government is formed, probably FF + others, they are going to make him Minister of Health?

:pac:

I do hope for the good of our health we can stop talking about Peter Casey after this election.

Loafing Oaf

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He's the minister of Health we need. I can see union chiefs going crazy if he's appointed but it'll be great for workers on the ground and patients.

That's the biggest 'if' in the world ever...

Plumbthedepths

Going to run on Leo's turf. Should be entertaining.


https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/ex-presidential-candidate-peter-casey-to-enter-general-election-race-in-taoiseachs-constituency-today-38884944.html

Floppybits

It doesn't matter who is put into health they won't be able to change it because of the vested interests. Really to change they would need to do what they did when scrapping the health boards and scrap the HSE and set up a new health authority but this time scale it down in the Admin/back office area and then look to increase the levels at the frontline and do not do what FF did and say that no one would be made redundant. This is was the biggest mistake in setting up the HSE, when the health boards were brought under the HSE, there should have been a review of roles and those roles were there were 3 or 4 people doing the job for each health board should have been reduced to 1 or 2 and advertised and the unsuccessful candidates can either apply for another job or take a redundancy. This is normal practice in most businesses where they combine, there is a review of roles and the roles are consolidated and advertised and the unsuccessful people either take up another open position or are offered a redundancy.

blackwhite

He’s not the sharpest tool in the box.

He’s going to damage Varadkar by offering an additional option to split the anti-Leo vote in Dublin West?

weldoninhio

pinkyeye wrote: »

Stating someone has early onset dementia is a FACT, not personal abuse.

You have something to back up that fact? Or is it a personal opinion used to abuse someone?

weldoninhio

Matt Barrett wrote: »

He's a public figure with form for riling up hate IMO. He's open to criticism.
I wish he would toddle off to the United States.

What hate did he rile up? Im sure you can provide quotes from him.

FrancieBrady

weldoninhio wrote: »

What hate did he rile up? Im sure you can provide quotes from him.

He stirred up so much hate and bile that he frightened himself and he had to go to ground to consider his future.
He then tried to disassociate himself from the remarks.

weldoninhio

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He stirred up so much hate and bile that he frightened himself and he had to go to ground to consider his future.
He then tried to disassociate himself from the remarks.

More waffle and not one quote.

FrancieBrady

weldoninhio wrote: »

More waffle and not one quote.

You are in denial that his traveller comments stirred up hate and bile?

Wow...have a look at some of the threads here and the explosion of comment.

It was in response to that that he had to take time off the campaign.

Not quotes necessary, just a knowledge of actual events.

weldoninhio

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You are in denial that his traveller comments stirred up hate and bile?

Wow...have a look at some of the threads here and the explosion of comment.

It was in response to that that he had to take time off the campaign.

Not quotes necessary, just a knowledge of actual events.

Must have been so terrible that you can come up with one quote.

FrancieBrady

weldoninhio wrote: »

Must have been so terrible that you can come up with one quote.

I told you were the 'hate' is. The contemporaneous threads here. I wouldn't stoop to quoting some of it.

Not hard to research yourself. And no skin of my nose if you wish to live in denial either.

James Brown

weldoninhio wrote: »

What hate did he rile up? Im sure you can provide quotes from him.

Making travelers an issue so people who hate travelers would vote for him and in my opinion, he couldn't give two f***s about Travelers either way.
Now he's chasing Varadkar's seat out of some petty revenge. Does not sound like a person putting the people's interests first. A chancer. I hope he loses his arse and goes away.

James Brown

Weepsie wrote: »

It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things who Minister of Health is, unless they're a total visionary, becasue the same people from will be working at the Dept. of Health and the HSE regardless.

We just need a minister and government to put the health system above their career. Unlikely, but it's very possible to do. Yes there would be massive kick back from certain quarters but I'm convinced the general public will appreciate it.
Amused at how we hear FG aren't afraid to make tough decisions

mickdw

Health has to be taken away from politics. Forget about fixing it in 1 2 or 5 years. 10 to 15 year plan with ring fenced certain funding. They are talking about a cross party agreement etc but realistically political power will still direct hospital locations etc. This needs to stop.
They also appear to design for today's numbers. They should hopefully be designing for 20 years down the line. A new hospital when opened should be in my opinion only at 50 percent capacity to allow for population growth.
It's like our motorways - they are beyond capacity by the time they open then they spend 3 times as much upgrading later.

Loafing Oaf

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Making travelers an issue so people who hate travelers would vote for him and in my opinion, he couldn't give two f***s about Travelers either way.

Absolutely. I wouldn't be surprised if he was barely aware of their existence before his handlers brought them up as an issue that might give his presidential bid some traction. It just shows the desperation on the right when they're hailing this blatant chancer who makes Father Jack sound articulate and coherent as the messiah.

marieholmfan

LuasSimon wrote: »

He couldn’t have picked a lot easier constituencies to get elected in than Donegal .
Donegal is one of the few counties that isn’t destroyed by traveller crime .

I'm sure that's where his holiday house is.

donkeykong5

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Making travelers an issue so people who hate travelers would vote for him and in my opinion, he couldn't give two f***s about Travelers either way.
Now he's chasing Varadkar's seat out of some petty revenge. Does not sound like a person putting the people's interests first. A chancer. I hope he loses his arse and goes away.

I hope he wins

weldoninhio

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Making travelers an issue so people who hate travelers would vote for him and in my opinion, he couldn't give two f***s about Travelers either way.
Now he's chasing Varadkar's seat out of some petty revenge. Does not sound like a person putting the people's interests first. A chancer. I hope he loses his arse and goes away.

5th reply and not one sign of any hate speech quoted. Seriously lads, you need to up your game. Hate Speech intonates that he said something hateful, yet not one of you can give me an example.

weldoninhio

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Absolutely. I wouldn't be surprised if he was barely aware of their existence before his handlers brought them up as an issue that might give his presidential bid some traction. It just shows the desperation on the right when they're hailing this blatant chancer who makes Father Jack sound articulate and coherent as the messiah.

I’m fairly sure from memory that it was RTÉ (Sean O’Rourke comes to mind for some reason) that brought travellers up with him in an interview. He never mentioned it until asked his opinion. FFS, making things up as you go along.

FrancieBrady

weldoninhio wrote: »

I’m fairly sure from memory that it was RTÉ (Sean O’Rourke comes to mind for some reason) that brought travellers up with him in an interview. He never mentioned it until asked his opinion. FFS, making things up as you go along.

This has been tried before.

He brings the topic into the discussion on the original podcast himself.

JP Liz V1

zell12 wrote: »

Casey running in Dublin West and Donegal

In Leo's door step

Loafing Oaf

https://www.joe.ie/politics/peter-casey-traveller-comments-644643

Presidential candidate Peter Casey has made a number of controversial comments about the travelling community in an interview...on 'The Floating Voter' podcast on independent.ie

Casey's comments, which were completely unprompted, have led to people calling for him to withdraw from the race.

weldoninhio wrote: »

I’m fairly sure from memory that it was RTÉ (Sean O’Rourke comes to mind for some reason) that brought travellers up with him in an interview.

Perhaps understandable that you would be drawn to someone who appears to be in the early stages of dementia...

James Brown

weldoninhio wrote: »

5th reply and not one sign of any hate speech quoted. Seriously lads, you need to up your game. Hate Speech intonates that he said something hateful, yet not one of you can give me an example.

I never said I'd hate quotes nor that I'd post any. My view of him is common and stands. He riled up hate and obviously won over the ignorant hateful demographic.
You're just looking for a quote so you can get all pedantic about what constitutes hate speech. Couldn't give a monkey's.

Spanish Eyes

This is going to be great fun and we need more of it!

TBH the Vlad machine will eat him up and spit him out. But I doubt he is running against Leo at all. Just stirring things up for the Coppingers of this world maybe?

Eric Cartman

Is there any way I can throw myself on the supplemental register for dublin west at this stage. Would rather make it 3 for 3 on voting for Peter Casey ?

Hurrache

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

This is going to be great fun and we need more of it!

TBH the Vlad machine will eat him up and spit him out. But I doubt he is running against Leo at all. Just stirring things up for the Coppingers of this world maybe?

Won't be at all, he'll get short shrift and ****ed out of the constituency bar a few idiots lapping him up.

Spanish Eyes

Hurrache wrote: »

Won't be at all, he'll get short shrift and ****ed out of the constituency bar a few idiots lapping him up.

Maybe he is stirring it for the sake of it. Good luck to him. Anything bar the Billions and Billions of working contributing taxpayer money going to the lazy git class is good enough for me! See Coppinger et al.

TBH if I were in DW I would give him a scratch for his cojones anyway.

CalamariFritti

Christ almighty. When I look at what simpletons the so-called alt right are prepared to rally behind I might give it a shot myself yet. Looks like all you have to do is come out with some simple nonsensical slogans that these people perceive as 'speaking your mind' or 'not pc' and you're off. Whether there's actually even half a brain behind it or not doesn't seem to matter.

The stablished political class with their nepotism and shenanigans are to blame for this.They ultimately prepare the ground for the people's readiness for such clowns. But even so if I had the choice between that murky can down the road inept nepotism and those simpletons I'd still go with the former.

Spanish Eyes

This will be great gas. And Casey may be short shrift, but who knows?

He is no threat to Vlad, but may be to others..... kind of?

On another note, I never realised that a candidate could register in more than one constituency. I'm obviously out of the loop.

Is Casey a bigger threat in Donegal I wonder? Doubt it myself, but who knows.

Hurrache

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

This will be great gas. And Casey may be short shrift, but who knows?

I know, and I'm sure thousands of others do too. He'll be treated as the joke he, and obviously others too, think it is by parachuting into the Taoiseach's constituency.

Idbatterim

you think Caseys handlers pointed him in the traveller direction? LOL! It came up organically! I'm sure all of you here defending the travellers community, are best of mates with them!

pinkyeye

Boggles wrote: »

So he thinks he is going to win against Leo and whatever government is formed, probably FF + others, they are going to make him Minister of Health?

:pac:

And yet some believe he doesn't suffer any form of dementia?????

Spanish Eyes

As long as moaning Coppinger gets a drop I'd be happy. I have never come across a more depressing sounding person in my life.

mickdw

Casey might not be a good public speaker but if he can read the mood of the constituents anything like he read the mood of the nation during the presidential debate, he could gobble up a whole pile of votes. All he needs is a simple issue that can grab people. It doesn't matter what that issue is, if people can listen to him and think to themselves, he is feckin right, he is half way there.
People said he wouldn't get 1 percent in presidential election.
He has been is America. He has probably closely seen how grabbing peoples attention with a simple idea can win elections.
FF had Seamus Brennan in America before the 1977 election and the ideas he brought back created a landslide.

Spanish Eyes

I really don't think this talk of dementia is adding anything. Where is the proof?

Casey is trying to get people to wake up from the two party permanent system.

Others have tried but I think he is gas. and says it as it is. We need this to shake us up.

pinkyeye

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I really don't think this talk of dementia is adding anything. Where is the proof?

Casey is trying to get people to wake up from the two party permanent system.

Others have tried but I think he is gas. and says it as it is. We need this to shake us up.

Have you watched any of the telly interviews he's done?? EVERYONE is agreed he talks nothing but ****e when asked a live question. It's not even funny because it's really awkward how he answers.

He may have stood a chance in Ballygobackwards if he had stuck with that but no, he decides to go up against Leo for the laugh. That's going to completely mess up his chances in both areas.

How are the people in Ballygobackwards supposed to believe in him now when he has registered in another area????

Spanish Eyes

pinkyeye wrote: »

Have you watched any of the telly interviews he's done?? EVERYONE is agreed he talks nothing but ****e when asked a live question. It's not even funny because it's really awkward how he answers.

He may have stood a chance in Ballygobackwards if he had stuck with that but no, he decides to go up against Leo for the laugh. That's going to completely mess up his chances in both areas.

How are the people in Ballygobackwards supposed to believe in him now when he has registered in another area????

Who cares? He is a shaker upper and makes people like you respond so he is affecting you in some way or other.

The rest of them are promising everything or else moaning. I LOVE a bit of this shake up.

end of the road

Idbatterim wrote: »

you think Caseys handlers pointed him in the traveller direction? LOL! It came up organically! I'm sure all of you here defending the travellers community, are best of mates with them!

some will have friends in the community yes.
others won't, but will not stand by and allow a whole community to be tarred with the same brush because of the actions of some of it's members. treatment which would quite rightly not be meeted out to other groups who themselves have or have had problem members, and would not be tolerated if it was.
casey spouted and got overwhelmingly rejected.

mickdw wrote: »

Casey might not be a good public speaker but if he can read the mood of the constituents anything like he read the mood of the nation during the presidential debate, he could gobble up a whole pile of votes. All he needs is a simple issue that can grab people. It doesn't matter what that issue is, if people can listen to him and think to themselves, he is feckin right, he is half way there.
People said he wouldn't get 1 percent in presidential election.
He has been is America. He has probably closely seen how grabbing peoples attention with a simple idea can win elections.
FF had Seamus Brennan in America before the 1977 election and the ideas he brought back created a landslide.

casey no more read the mood of the nation then father jack or father dougal.

James Brown

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I really don't think this talk of dementia is adding anything. Where is the proof?

Casey is trying to get people to wake up from the two party permanent system.

Others have tried but I think he is gas. and says it as it is. We need this to shake us up.

That's what they said about Trump.
This affects people's lives. He should be ashamed. It's a game to someone like him not to people.

mickdw

end of the road wrote: »

some will have friends in the community yes.
others won't, but will not stand by and allow a whole community to be tarred with the same brush because of the actions of some of it's members. treatment which would quite rightly not be meeted out to other groups who themselves have or have had problem members, and would not be tolerated if it was.
casey spouted and got overwhelmingly rejected.



casey no more read the mood of the nation then father jack or father dougal.

I beg to differ. He went from no hoper to second place in a national pole based on a single issue. If that's not reading the nation, I don't know what is. Those are numbers that actually felt strongly enough to vote for him in a presidential pole. How many out there agreed with him 100 percent but didn't believe a presidential election was the place to register their agreement - a fair number I'd assume.

Spanish Eyes

Matt Barrett wrote: »

That's what they said about Trump.
This affects people's lives. He should be ashamed. It's a game to someone like him not to people.

Have you proof that Casey is a dementia sufferer?

Eric Cartman

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Have you proof that Casey is a dementia sufferer?

No he doesn't , its a tactic that the left side of the political aisle use, they can't believe that rational people could hold certain views so attribute it to mental health issues. How many times has it been said that almost any leader on the right is 'ill'

Idbatterim

Peter Casey is successful in the real world. That alone separates him from the rest of the morons running!

James Brown

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Have you proof that Casey is a dementia sufferer?

Zero. I think you're confusing me with someone else.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

No he doesn't , its a tactic that the left side of the political aisle use, they can't believe that rational people could hold certain views so attribute it to mental health issues. How many times has it been said that almost any leader on the right is 'ill'

See above.
See the irony in having a boiler plate attitude about people you disagree with?

He's stroking his own ego. He's not a leader he's an egotist (IMO) who thinks he can come home to little quaint Ireland and be president or minister of health. He's like one of those middle class people who go to a poor village in Africa and pass themselves off as a saviour despite lacking any skills not for compassion but self aggrandising.
He's a walking insult*.

*he's disrespecting the Irish people IMO.

Big Gerry

Idbatterim wrote: »

Peter Casey is successful in the real world. That alone separates him from the rest of the morons running!

Simon Harris has never even had a real job since leaving College.

Loafing Oaf

Idbatterim wrote: »

you think Caseys handlers pointed him in the traveller direction? LOL! It came up organically!

Okay this seems to be the interview where Casey first brought up travellers.
https://www.broadsheet.ie/tag/dr-gavin-jennings/

It's hard to be sure with his 'free association' interview style but this doesn't sound like a natural, spontaneous segue to me:

Jennings: “I heard you quoted recently saying that you couldn’t understand why people who were homeless, who were being put up in hotels would complain about being put up in hotels.”

Casey: “Yeah, I mean, the ridiculous situation down in Cork where the Travellers were refusing four-bedroomed houses because they weren’t being given stables with them. I mean you’ve got to step back and ask yourself. I mean when did…”