Liverpool vs Utd; 16:30

Guy:Incognito

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because a keeper is catching the ball.

Well then just outlaw going near the keeper at all so. Has to be given free space to catch the ball.

Shanotheslayer

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Ok, forget suddenly. Why is it a foul because one of the players happens to be a keeper?

Don't know, I'm not the law maker, but it's always been that way. VAR is not wrong here. They're given literally every week 9 times out of 10. People can't be shocked that this one was given.

Mr.Nice Guy

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Sorry, marching him backwards while making contact. Is that better.

Players shouldnt be raising a voice to a ref , never mind a group of them screaming in his face.

Sooner the better everyone bar the captain is barred from talking to the ref.

True, but it was insinuated to be something associated with United when Liverpool's manager has done it.

Jürgen Klopp has said that he was “lucky” to escape punishment for his altercation with a fourth official this week and that managers would continue to overstep the mark because of the unique pressures of their job.

The Liverpool manager accepted that he and his colleagues have a duty to act with greater responsibility on the touchline as the behaviour of top-flight coaches comes under the microscope again. Klopp apologised to Neil Swarbrick during Liverpool’s stalemate with Chelsea for screaming “nobody can beat us” in the fourth official’s face after Simon Mignolet’s penalty save.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/klopp-pressure-means-clashes-with-officials-gzvktw3z8

Guy:Incognito

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Well then just outlaw going near the keeper at all so. Has to be given free space to catch the ball.

If 2 players are going for the ball and player A prevents player B from getting the ball by initiating contact then that's generally a foul, no?

citytillidie

Win the ball and it is a free kick now

ctrl-alt-delete

Good save with the boot there from De Gea although it was hit at him.

Mushy

Mane should have finished the game off there.

Think they got the memo if they hammer them it could lead to Ole getting sacked. Nobody wants that

LuckyLloyd

Utd will feel like they’re winning to be just a single goal down.

Agent Coulson

Can see Ole saying they won that half.

mayordenis

Absolutely incredible scoreline from a United perspective.

8-10

Great game of football.

LiVarpool striking again.

Gini Wijnaldum is the most underrated player in the league. Sublime stuff.

Andy Robertson having a mare.

Fitz*

DDG went in tougher on the ref than he did for the challenge from the cross.

Weak string of p1ss. He has form for not being able to collect.

murpho999

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

True, but it was insinuated to be something associated with United when Liverpool's manager has done it.

What are you trying to prove here?

United players were wrong today. Klopp has also changed his behaviour.

Oranage2

Everything is poor about this season, good liverpool side that seemed to have been elevated with every top club going through a rebuild.

MD1990

var doing man utd a favour again

disgraceful decison

8-10

Oranage2 wrote: »

Everything is poor about this season, good liverpool side that seemed to have been elevated with every top club going through a rebuild.

2/10

You've had better lad

8-10

FitzShane wrote: »

DDG went in tougher on the ref than he did for the challenge from the cross.

Weak string of p1ss. He has form for not being able to collect.

Virgil could have killed him!!

mayordenis

Oranage2 wrote: »

Everything is poor about this season, good liverpool side that seemed to have been elevated with every top club going through a rebuild.

Man City are in no way in a rebuild, not at all, hell Spurs aren't in a rebuild they have just capitulated.

TheCitizen

Charlie19 wrote: »

Shower of long ball merchants.

Indeed

Mr.Nice Guy

murpho999 wrote: »

What are you trying to prove here?

United players were wrong today. Klopp has also changed his behaviour.

It was a response to this post.

Guy:Incognito

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If 2 players are going for the ball and player A prevents player B from getting the ball by initiating contact then that's generally a foul, no?

Multiple times during a match 2 outfield players will jump for a ball and hit in to each other while one gets the ball and it's not a foul.


Keane and Neville reckon it's not a foul.

ThunbergsAreGo

Mushy wrote: »

You can go for the ball and still foul though. I think it should have stood cos advantage was played and Lindelof messed it up

Yeah seems a precedent was set. If it was am offside for example that would have stood

Agent Coulson

Evra trolling Keane and Souness straight to their faces saying that was a foul.

LuckyLloyd

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Evra trolling Keane and Souness straight to their faces saying that was a foul.

They robustly enough won the “debate” I thought

8-10

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Multiple times during a match 2 outfield players will jump for a ball and hit in to each other while one gets the ball and it's not a foul.


Keane and Neville reckon it's not a foul.

The weird thing is how the onfield decision was no foul. That means VAR was certain that it was clear and obvious to overrule it.

Had the opposite happened and the ref gave it I could see it not being overturned, but the way we've seen VAR implemented has in general been towards the onfield decision.

Guy:Incognito

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Multiple times during a match 2 outfield players will jump for a ball and hit in to each other while one gets the ball and it's not a foul.


Keane and Neville reckon it's not a foul.

If it prevents a player from playing the ball then it's a foul.
He was prevented from catching it. it's a foul.
VAR themselves say they were surprised it wasn't called straightaway.

Adamcp898

I think it’s a foul tbh, and not just because I’m a United fan.

van Dijk jumps with the primary intention being to prevent de Gea from collecting the ball cleanly. A point illustrated by the fact that he’s on the way back down to the ground by the time the ball actually reaches him. I don’t see what the hoo ha is about.


Other than that, Periera actually reaches that ball played across a goal and should tap it in. He just fails to hit it.

Liverpool well on top.

ctrl-alt-delete

Salah should have buried that

murpho999

Should be out of sight here.

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

They robustly enough won the “debate” I thought

Yet the goal doesn't stand.

Mr.Nice Guy

United playing like a League One outfit on a day out to Anfield in the cup.

Shanotheslayer

Should be 4 or 5 here. How it's only 1-0 is baffling

FixdePitchmark

United are **** , we should be 4 up

Slattsy

Liverpool into second gear now. Man u piss poor.

FixdePitchmark

such fun , like training

FixdePitchmark

What does Ole actually do.

citytillidie

So much for 6 seconds with the ball in your hands

mayordenis

citytillidie wrote: »

So much for 6 seconds with the ball in your hands

I've only ever seen that penalised once, and it was Mignolet. It's never enforced.

Agent Coulson

Rashford has a broken back well two stress fractures in it.

Mr.Nice Guy

Solskjaer actually doesn't know what to do. You can see it on his face.

BoJack Horseman

While it remains 1-0, Utd have a chance.

Liverpool need to convert the dominance into a goal

TitianGerm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Solskjaer actually doesn't know what to do. You can see it on his face.

He was making shapes with his hands there a few minutes ago. Looked like squares to me.

Mushy

Terrible miss

Utopia Parkway

Liverpool could have had 5 or 6.

All set up for a United equaliser.

mayordenis

We'll have nobody to blame but Mane, Salah, Robertson, VAR, De Gea, and fear itself.

BoJack Horseman

After all that Liverpool dominance yielding nothing, Utd are climbing back into this game.

mayordenis

This United side aren't going to be winning any fair play awards.

citytillidie

More fouls on Salah, Shaw all over him as he tries to control the ball

FixdePitchmark

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

After all that Liverpool dominance yielding nothing, Utd are climbing back into this game.

not a chance

LuckyLloyd

Don’t like a shape change here, has all the hallmarks of a sucker punch equaliser before the end...