National Football League 2020

munster87

conor05 wrote: »

Some footballer though. Imagine Mayo had a forward like him

McDonald when he was bothered.

The Golden Miller

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Meath once again bottle it when the chips are down. When's the last decent top team Meath actually beat? Their last 3 or 4 games with Tyrone get edged out despite being the better team, same with Donegal. Even Mayo, who never used to be able to beat Meath, are doing them every time.

The talent is there, but they lack belief and confidence. We've been told the last year or two Meath are on the way back, but who actually believes that? Meath were once the hardest team in Ireland who'd fight til the end, now they are the softest. If they're not giving away 10 points half time leads, they are kicking 25 wides a game. When the game is in the melting pot, the Meath team of today is a soft touch who will always wilt and collapse when it matters.

Can't get over the line against any decent team for the last 4 years or so. And that trend will continue. No real leaders or steel in that team

First year back up though, they’ll be better for it. Bit more accuracy and it was a good performance today.

Mr. Incognito

Tyrone cynical masterclass

Sent on a sub to get Clifford sent off and ref fall for it.

Tyrone player jumped into Kerry player for a free.

Worst was the lad who threw himself down with no contact at all and a free given.

They really are a horrible team

https://twitter.com/davidherity/status/1226530422672285697?s=12

tayto lover

siblers wrote: »

Still doesn't justify a yellow for being dragged down

It’s the easy way out for diabolical referees I.e. book both even if only one is responsible.

Although Kerry are no strangers to cynicism themselves.

blanch152

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

The David Clarke kick out at the end of that game is probably one of the most pathetic things I've seen in the history of the GAA.

There clearly was holding and wrestling, which any team would have done, but sure Clarke kicked it over the sideline anyway

You’re memory is extremely faulty.

For the Clarke kick-out the ref blew the whistle and gave Kilkenny a black card for one incident. He then allowed the kick-out to be retaken.

With two men free on the opposite side of the pitch, Clarke proceeded to kick the ball dead on the other side. What a complete meltdown and nobody or nothing to blame except the mental fragility displayed by Clarke.

ArielAtom

Bambi wrote: »

The game is available to view online, would you mind directing me to the time stamp where Dublin suddenly took down the entire Mayo team like some sort of royal rumble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxVkVzXci6M

Is the black just for the last few minutes? Because in that game Keegan dragged Kilkenny to the ground at the throw in, letter of the law says that was a black. Not condoning what happened in either one, I bet if Mayo we’re winning and they dragged Dublin players down it would have been hailed as seeing out the game, desire to win and any other cliche you want to add.

Martina1991

Will ye stop talking about a game from 2 and a half years ago.

Gael85

Lundstram wrote: »

Referees need to be protecting players like Clifford not sending them off for nothing. Some dreadful refereeing throught the NFL so far but you'll see these clowns getting games every week.

Agree. Diarmuid Connolly got same treatment for year was basically told get on with it. Grabbed around the neck and dragged to the ground in one game and yet he got the line. I thought Clifford would have got the protection Connolly was never afforded over the years.

grbear

Some set of results this week in Division 1. Meath unfortunately look like they are done as they realistically need three wins from their remaining games to stay up. They are away in three, including trips to Kerry and Dublin.
Everyone else could end up in the final or in a relegation battle.

Poor_old_gill

tayto lover wrote: »

It’s the easy way out for diabolical referees I.e. book both even if only one is responsible.

Although Kerry are no strangers to cynicism themselves.

Every situation doesnt need to be answered with whataboutery.

It was a ridiculous decision by the ref and before anyone starts saying I'm being biased - I said the same about Mannion last night.

It's genuinely the worst thing about football - it's going to kill skillful players.
Connolly was hounded out, Jamie clarke the same and Benni coulter talked about it being a factor in him retiring.

Like what the f*ck is the umpire at

BonnieSituation

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

There’s a fair chance we’re watching the greatest ever.

Jesus Christ.

The second coming is real!

BonnieSituation

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Jesus Christ.

The second coming is real!

It’s him or Fenton, but it’s plain to see what a talent he is. Injuries, etc pending of course.

BonnieSituation

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Really is. The game on TG4 YouTube hasn’t missed a beat. RTÉ Player would have crashed 5 times before half time.

Watched the rugby on VM player and it was grand. Not a bother.

Watching election updates on RTÉ player and it's a stuttering piece of ****.

Oddly enough the android app is very good. Though its delay is a lot worse than the web player.

Poor_old_gill

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

It’s him or Fenton, but it’s plain to see what a talent he is. Injuries, etc pending of course.

Yeah I think its safe to say that they are the 2 top players in football at the moment.

I've always rated Murphy, Mannion and Dave Moran as being top level but the former 2 have moved ahead

BonnieSituation

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Watched the right on VM player and it was grand. Not a bother.

Watching election updates on RTÉ player and it's a stuttering piece of ****.

Oddly enough the android app is very good. Though its delay is a lot worse than the web player.

Yeah I’ve found the app better in most cases but it’s still not great. Can’t see it getting much better with the financial situation there either.

BonnieSituation

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

It’s him or Fenton, but it’s plain to see what a talent he is. Injuries, etc pending of course.

Now it's Fenton. Let Clifford achieve something first outside of some minors and a Munster.

Poor_old_gill

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Yeah I think its safe to say that they are the 2 top players in football at the moment.

I've always rated Murphy, Mannion and Dave Moran as being top level but the former 2 have moved ahead

They’re serious players, along with the likes of Keegan or McManus or past players like Canavan or McCartan, but there’s something special about those two.

Happyilylost

Poor_old_gill wrote:

I've always rated Murphy, Mannion and Dave Moran as being top level but the former 2 have moved ahead

Shane Walsh. Remember where you heard the name first.

BonnieSituation

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Now it's Fenton. Let Clifford achieve something first outside of some minors and a Munster.

I know winning it all is a big part of it but individual talent has to beat a part too. That said, it would be a toss up to put him above Fenton on their current trajectories.

The Golden Miller

Jack Barry has made Fenton look decidedly average anytime they've met. And some people rate Fenton as one of the best ever. Pull the other one

The Golden Miller

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Jack Barry has made Fenton look decidedly average anytime they've met. And some people rate Fenton as one of the best ever. Pull the other one

If you can’t see Fenton (or Clifford) for the footballer he is then you’re heavily biased.

Poor_old_gill

Happyilylost wrote: »

Shane Walsh. Remember where you heard the name first.

I think everyone has heard of shane walsh

The Golden Miller

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

If you can’t see Fenton (or Clifford) for the footballer he is then you’re heavily biased.

Clifford is a raw natural talent. Will be one of the best ever. Fenton is a great player. But one of the best over? No

munster87

Depends on what Clifford goes on to achieve

seligehgit

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Yeah I think its safe to say that they are the 2 top players in football at the moment.
I've always rated Murphy, Mannion and Dave Moran as being top level but the former 2 have moved ahead

What about probably the greatest outfield footballer of the last decade James Mc Carthy or Ciaran Kilkenny?

The_Honeybadger

seligehgit wrote: »

What about probably the greatest outfield footballer of the last decade James Mc Carthy or Ciaran Kilkenny?

Mccaffery is up with those guys as well imo. There are very few half backs playing football that you have to game plan for but he is just devastating.

Dyr

seligehgit wrote: »

What about probably the greatest outfield footballer of the last decade James Mc Carthy or Ciaran Kilkenny?

Yeah there's Cluxton but James McCartyh is the best damn player of the last decade.

threeball

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I think everyone has heard of shane walsh

I think he'll light up the championship this year. He's got the freedom he so badly needed under Joyce.

Speaking of Clifford, something has to be done about this bull****e of both players being booked without question when two of them are battling on the ground. All you have top do now is pin a player on a booking.

Happyilylost

threeball wrote:

I think he'll light up the championship this year. He's got the freedom he so badly needed under Joyce.

Ya Shane Walsh the corner back isn't half as good as Shane Walsh the full forward!!

threeball

Happyilylost wrote: »

Ya Shane Walsh the corner back isn't half as good as Shane Walsh the full forward!!

He was immense today. Doubt there was a more impressive performance this weekend.

The_Honeybadger

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Speaking of Clifford, something has to be done about this bull****e of both players being booked without question when two of them are battling on the ground. All you have top do now is pin a player on a booking.

Yeah once a player is on a yellow all you have to do is bring in a sub and instruct him to get in to a tangle with said player, automatic two yellows, previously booked player is sent off, job done. Definitely needs to be looked at and more common sense applied.

Bad miss from Murphy at the end there. 77th of 75 minutes too, I wonder had it went over would we have heard the same crying about it as last night?

dobman88

threeball wrote: »

He was immense today. Doubt there was a more impressive performance this weekend.

His goal in Tralee was worth the entry fee alone. Absolute cracker. He was on fire that night too.

Happyilylost

ReginaldSmythV wrote:

Bad miss from Murphy at the end there. 77th of 75 minutes too, I wonder had it went over would we have heard the same crying about it as last night?

Not from Galway. Boyle got injured for Galway just as the injury time started with a clash of heads. Took a couple of mins to get him sorted before the blood sub.

MfMan

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Now it's Fenton. Let Clifford achieve something first outside of some minors and a Munster.

Fenton is a very good player made to look even better by playing in a great team. The footballing Shefflin in other words.

BonnieSituation

MfMan wrote: »

Fenton is a very good player made to look even better by playing in a great team. The footballing Shefflin in other words.

You're a gas man.

He's more of an athlete and not a raw natural talent I suppose?

sligeach

Ciaran Whelan is some . Couldn't wipe the smile off his face on Allianz League Sunday, upon listening to Pat Spillane and reviewing the Meath v Mayo game. Shouldn't be on TV, he was a filthy player.

Poor_old_gill

sligeach wrote: »

Ciaran Whelan is some ***t. Couldn't wipe the smile off his face on Allianz League Sunday, upon listening to Pat Spillane and reviewing the Meath v Mayo game. Shouldn't be on TV, he was a filthy player.

In fairness to Ciaran, he has about as much personality & insight as a half chewed jambon

smelly sock

MfMan wrote: »

Fenton is a very good player made to look even better by playing in a great team. The footballing Shefflin in other words.

Ye wha?

seligehgit

That was a very harsh red for David Clifford.

seligehgit

seligehgit wrote: »

That was a very harsh red for David Clifford.

Was an absolute joke. Those unwarranted yellows happen far too often now.

fawlty682

Ridiculous red card for Clifford. Tyrone player should have got a black. However, Gaelic football teams now play keep ball from about 65 minutes with substitutions, staged melees and faking injuries to waste the final 8 + minutes. Also, a clock on the sideline showing time is essential. Referees cannot cope with all the trickery from managers in the modern game.

BonnieSituation

Lundstram wrote: »

If the GAA threw €16m at Kerry over 5 years he'd achieve loads.

You'll fit in well around here. I look forward to many more of your contributions over the spring and summer.

C__MC

I can guarantee ye all if a Kerry defender done something like that on a Tyrone, there wouldn't be a word about it

Because its Clifford and Kerry ya see, the media jump on it

Remember tadhg kennelly in 2009?

BonnieSituation

C__MC wrote: »

I can guarantee ye all if a Kerry defender done something like that on a Tyrone, there wouldn't be a word about it

Because its Clifford and Kerry ya see, the media jump on it

Remember tadhg kennelly in 2009?

Remind us all, what was it that Tadhg did to Nicholas Murphy at throw-in 2009?

TheRiverman

Happyilylost wrote: »

Shane Walsh. Remember where you heard the name first.

Shane Walsh is a brilliant player and has been on the Galway senior team since 2013,but due to the awful negative behind the ball crap system that Galway played under Kevin Walsh he never got a chance to show his great talent until now thanks to Padraig Joyce.

TheRiverman

C__MC wrote: »

I can guarantee ye all if a Kerry defender done something like that on a Tyrone, there wouldn't be a word about it

Because its Clifford and Kerry ya see, the media jump on it

Remember tadhg kennelly in 2009?

One of the greatest injustices ever in Gaelic Football that Kennelly was allowed to stay on the field that day and also to be allowed back into the Kerry team that year and then when they won he fecked off back to Australia.

MfMan

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Was an absolute joke. Those unwarranted yellows happen far too often now.

Ml. Daly's first yellow today some joke also.

PCeeeee

TheRiverman wrote: »

Shane Walsh is a brilliant player and has been on the Galway senior team since 2013,but due to the awful negative behind the ball crap system that Galway played under Kevin Walsh he never got a chance to show his great talent until now thanks to Padraig Joyce.

You spotted him though?