throwing cigarette butts out the car window

Stateofyou

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

You must live an awful sheltered life if that's the most ignorant thing you have ever read.


We don't live in the australian outback where there's a risk of fire. The fag butt, firstly, is barely noticeable due to it's brown colour, and secondly breaks down to nothing after a matter of days or weeks. It's a victimless crime.

"Most ignorant thing I've read in a while, I didn't say that I've ever read. Can you not read properly?

Risk of fire is not the only problem with littering cigarette butts. But I suppose if you read anything else properly, you would have already seen those points here have been made.

Filters actually take 10 years to break down, even then the microplastics and their effects continue to cause problems. They also negatively impact wildlife (as already pointed out)

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/08/cigarettes-story-of-plastic/

amadangomor

Flaccus wrote: »

Sort of related but was walking past the chicken hut in limerick city the other day and a wnker double parked in his van flicks his butt out the drivers window. Thought nothing of it till I passed and heard a roar. His equally tosser of a missus on the passenger side threw a load of chicken hut wrappers and boxes out the window into the path of a pedestrian despite a bin beside the vehicles door. Pure ignorance and scumbaggery.

Dejavu as the exact same thing happened me 10 years ago in same spot. Except I told the moron I would be straight down to the station with his reg if he didn’t pick up his rubbish which he did.

In this scenario the pedestrian fired the rubbish back through the passenger window and yer one freaked out for a good 5 minutes with her boyfriend throwing shapes but ultimately did fa as a crowd had gathered and shamed them into disposing of their crap. Total scumbags.

Normal people need to challenge these type of scumbags constantly for any change to happen. A few times when I have I've gotten very aggressive responses but won't stop me.

Countries like Finland this would not be tolerated and people dropping fag butts would be berated. They have a lot more respect for their country than a lot of people here.

Edgware

Stateofyou wrote: »

This is the most ignorant thing I have read in a while. And that's saying a lot.

It's another attack on rural Ireland

Squeeonline

Stateofyou wrote: »

"Most ignorant thing I've read in a while, I didn't say that I've ever read. Can you not read properly?

Risk of fire is not the only problem with littering cigarette butts. But I suppose if you read anything else properly, you would have already seen those points here have been made.

Filters actually take 10 years to break down, even then the microplastics and their effects continue to cause problems. They also negatively impact wildlife (as already pointed out)

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/08/cigarettes-story-of-plastic/

Pintman must be a troll. No actual thinking breathing human could hold that opinion.

2lazytogetup

thanks for responses all. ill be blasting the horn at them the next time i see it.

Stateofyou

Squeeonline wrote: »

Pintman must be a troll. No actual thinking breathing human could hold that opinion.

Let's hope so, but the amount of rubbish found thrown outside would suggest people like that live and breathe here. Unreal.

Feisar

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

You can get the reg and report it to the litter warden. They will get a fine. Even better if you have a dash cam. You might have to go to court if they dispute it.

I have always been tempted to do it myself. Never have though.

Will they though? It's purely one persons word against another's.

For example you report me to the warden, driver of reg XX-XX-XXXX threw a cigarette butt out their car window outside Ballyhaunis heading to Kilkelly on the 21/01/20.
Let's say proper channels are followed, will I get a letter in the door, either pay fine or go to court? Will they issue a fine on the back of a randoms word?
If I dispute it will we end up in court? Lets say there is no CCTV and you were unable to get a witness? Seems unlikely anything would come of it.

punisher5112

Woman got off a bus recently, walked past a street bin, she literally had to brush past it, do you think she put her rubbish in it.... No she decided the river was a better option....

Plastic is really really bad for the environment and the rivers and the sea are been destroyed.

lawred2

2lazytogetup wrote: »

Driving along and witnessed driver in front throwing their cigarette butt out the window. my immediate reaction was that this was disgusting, and rude. I wanted to blow the horn but resisted.

But then i thought a cigarette is paper and leaves. Am i overreacting? is it that bad as likely to decompose quickly enough.

Thoughts.

the butt isn't

it's disgusting throwing butts about the place but then smoking and smokers are rather disgusting

lawred2

Vic_08 wrote: »

They don't put bins in cars either, does that make it okay to fling used fast food wrappers out the window? Why should smoker's be given a pass on littering?

Sadly we share our small island with a lot of disgusting pigs, hedges and ditches beside our roads are covered with stuff people have flung out of cars.

the 'settled' travellers around North County Dublin love nothing better than fly tipping and getting the council to pick up their waste...

It boils my blood seeing household waste dumped at the side of the road. Maybe society isn't for such people..

lawred2

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

You can get the reg and report it to the litter warden. They will get a fine. Even better if you have a dash cam. You might have to go to court if they dispute it.

I have always been tempted to do it myself. Never have though.

I don't think I've ever seen one of them. Do they go outside?

Seriously cushy number.

pgj2015

https://dailyegyptian.com/34224/archives/and-you-thought-they-just-liked-acorns/

B.A._Baracus

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Not really. Just an email or phone call with the date and reg.
I reported illegal dumping dozens of times. Once they find anything that can identify the dumper. Fine will be issued. Dash cam might be enough.

Once I was asked to go to court. I said no. As they where settled travelers that lived nearby. It’s only if they dispute it.

An email or phone call saying how someone threw a smoke out of a car isn't going to do anything tho. Even with the date and reg. You have to prove it. As there would be nothing stopping people reporting ttheir neighbour they hate saying they did the same when it was all lies. to be honest, would'nt even bother doing that for a smoke. seems petty. Thousands of smokes are gonna get thrown on the ground in ireland today.

But you're talking about litter wardens opening up rubbish to check for personal papers? (eg, electricity bill etc) Like someone dumping their black bin you mean. Yeah wardens do that.

It's gas, if one was so scummy enough, you could take the bags (out of the black bin) of someone you hate and dump them somewhere nearby :pac:

circadian

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Who gives a crap.fags break down easily. Especially in Irish weather. No one wants their car stinking of stale cigerrettes so you're not going to leave them in the ashtray.

People have little to be worrying about if they're upset by a few fag buts which dissappear after a few weeks of rain.

None of this is true.

Irish_peppa

Personally i think its a very dirty thing to do. My friend I allowed ONCE to smoke in the car as she couldnt wait for 5 minutes to have a smoke nearing the end of said ciggy just threw the smouldering butt out the window. I nearly died and i had an ashtray in the car built in (old car) ! We must of looked like a right pair of Howayas to the Merc behind us:o
PS I didnt realise they had stopped putting ash trays in cars ! Wow thats cool !:cool:

Eire Go Brach

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

An email or phone call saying how someone threw a smoke out of a car isn't going to do anything tho. Even with the date and reg. You have to prove it. As there would be nothing stopping people reporting ttheir neighbour they hate saying they did the same when it was all lies. to be honest, would'nt even bother doing that for a smoke. seems petty. Thousands of smokes are gonna get thrown on the ground in ireland today.

It’s still littering and it can be reported. It’s open for abuse alright. But you can do it.

“Petty”
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/littering-cigarette-butts-4721025-Jul2019/%3famp=1

Over half of litter is “smokes”
All littering is disgusting.

Lewis_Benson

Anyone who smokes in public or in their car should be shot with balls of their own shyte.

Yamanoto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO79oNMWxS4

earlytobed

There was a caller on Joe Duffy a few years ago I remember, he was livid because he was fined in America for throwing a butt out of a car window. A police helicopter spotted him and radioed a patrol car.
He really felt he was wronged!

Winning_Stroke

earlytobed wrote: »

There was a caller on Joe Duffy a few years ago I remember, he was livid because he was fined in America for throwing a butt out of a car window. A police helicopter spotted him and radioed a patrol car.
He really felt he was wronged!

Wtf was Joe going to do about it?

Omackeral

TuringBot47 wrote: »

Yes, the magic Elves come out at nighttime and clean up everything that's thrown out of a car window.

Sorry but I don’t believe that for a second.

Doctors room ghost

Omackeral wrote: »

Sorry but I don’t believe that for a second.

We cleaned our road there before Christmas.9 black bags of rubbish we took off it.a rural road.mostly coffee cups and bottles and cans.also cigarette boxes.
3 weeks later the same road is in pure sh1te again.
Dirty dirty fcukin scum that are driving the roads.

B.A._Baracus

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

It’s still littering and it can be reported. It’s open for abuse alright. But you can do it.

“Petty”
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/littering-cigarette-butts-4721025-Jul2019/%3famp=1

Over half of litter is “smokes”
All littering is disgusting.

Yes. It is petty. You've already established how you like to report so I know you will take it as a personal attack. But it is petty.

Love the way you said how you "didnt go to court" cause it was some traveller family. Ie, you like to report from a distance and won't be caught out. Another example, you probably wouldn't say boo to someone on the street who dumped his butt but gladly get someones reg and hang them behind their back.

Yes. It is petty and you are petty.

Eire Go Brach

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Yes. It is petty. You've already established how you like to report so I know you will take it as a personal attack. But it is petty.

Love the way you said how you "didnt go to court" cause it was some traveller family. Ie, you like to report from a distance and won't be caught out. Another example, you probably wouldn't say boo to someone on the street who dumped his butt but gladly get someones reg and hang them behind their back.

Yes. It is petty and you are petty.

Why should I a allow someone to dump in my Apartment or on the roads? It costs me money as I pay maintenance.

For the record. I have pulled up Men, Women and teenagers for littering. I will continue to do it.

Facing off against travellers that live beside on my road in court. Personally I don't see it as safe.

It's your opinion that I am petty. Like my opinion that littering including throwing butts out the windows is scumbag behaviour. Butts are over half of all littering.

Have you ever done it?

Kimbot

lertsnim wrote: »

Stub it out on the car floor. Why should everyone else have to get their dirty fag butt.

So your saying put a lit cigarette out on flammable carpet? Now that sounds safe......

TuringBot47

Just as bad as motorists are the bus passengers waiting in the queue to get their last drag and then throw the butt out as they step on.

Kimbot

Lewis_Benson wrote: »

Anyone who smokes in public or in their car should be shot with balls of their own shyte.

Why?

Doctors room ghost

TuringBot47 wrote: »

Just as bad as motorists are the bus passengers waiting in the queue to get their last drag and then throw the butt out as they step on.

Or spitting at a bus stop while waiting for a bus.fcukin disgusting.

TuringBot47

Kimbot wrote: »

Why?

Probably because if they drop the lit cigarette on themselves they could easily
cause an accident. In that respect they've more of a potential for accidents than phone use,

AndrewJRenko

A family member used to hop out of his car, if he saw a butt being dumped at traffic lights, pick up the butt, throw it back in on the driver's lap, get back to his car, slap on the central locking and drive off.

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Who gives a crap.fags break down easily. Especially in Irish weather. No one wants their car stinking of stale cigerrettes so you're not going to leave them in the ashtray.

People have little to be worrying about if they're upset by a few fag buts which dissappear after a few weeks of rain.

It takes 10-15 years for the plastic filter to biodegrade. If you don't want your car stinking of cigarettes, don't smoke in it. If you're going to smoke in it, bring an ashtray designed for cars.

lawred2 wrote: »

I don't think I've ever seen one of them. Do they go outside?

Seriously cushy number.

How would you know if you've seen one or not?

Kimbot

TuringBot47 wrote: »

Probably because if they drop the lit cigarette on themselves they could easily
cause an accident. In that respect they've more of a potential for accidents than phone use,

If you drop a hot coffee/tea etc the same could happen so why not shoot coffee/tea drinkers will balls of their own crap too? Why only smokers?

Hammer89

I see no issue with flicking a smoke out the car window, or flicking a cigarette anywhere for that matter. It really isn't a big deal.

People who get upset over it are the original snowflakes, and by that I mean they're only outraged because they can be, not because they're genuinely disgusted with the act itself. They'll tell you that they are disgusted, but really it's a case of complaining just to complain.

They might feign concern about the environment or something to validate the grievance but, as I said, it's feigned and without merit. I can understand with rubbish, because it makes the place - whatever place - a bit unsightly. An empty bottle of coke isn't going to perish within hours in the same way that a cigarette butt would and does.

Omackeral

Hammer89 wrote: »

I see no issue with flicking a smoke out the car window, or flicking a cigarette anywhere for that matter. It really isn't a big deal.

People who get upset over it are the original snowflakes, and by that I mean they're only outraged because they can be, not because they're genuinely disgusted with the act itself. They'll tell you that they are disgusted, but really it's a case of complaining just to complain.

I’m not feigning anything. I think you’re a f*cking knack if you do this. What if everyone adopted this attitude to everything. Where do you draw the line? Chewing gum? Crisp bag? Just stop being a scruffy dirt bird. Teach your kids not be either while you’re at it.

Stateofyou

Hammer89 wrote: »

I see no issue with flicking a smoke out the car window, or flicking a cigarette anywhere for that matter. It really isn't a big deal.

People who get upset over it are the original snowflakes, and by that I mean they're only outraged because they can be, not because they're genuinely disgusted with the act itself. They'll tell you that they are disgusted, but really it's a case of complaining just to complain.

They might feign concern about the environment or something to validate the grievance but, as I said, it's feigned and without merit. I can understand with rubbish, because it makes the place - whatever place - a bit unsightly. An empty bottle of coke isn't going to perish within hours in the same way that a cigarette butt would and does.

And here we have the second most ignorant comment I've seen in a while.

Hammer89

Omackeral wrote: »

I’m not feigning anything. I think you’re a f*cking knack if you do this.

I know you think this but it's probably worth exploring why you think this. And it's probably because it was drilled into you as a youngster that you must not throw anything away in public. Listen, my dad told me the capital of the Netherlands was the Hague when I was little and I believed him up until the day that I adamantly insisted that Amsterdam wasn't the capital, which of course it is. Point is, parents aren't always right. I don't have children but when I do I'll tell them to throw their cigarette butts where they like - if they smoke, which I wouldn't want - and I'd encourage them to challenge societal rules that don't make much sense, like this one.

Omackeral

Funny, most people would hope their kids won’t smoke yet you’d be there encouraging them to be mini scrotes and stick it to “the man”. Sad.

Hammer89

Omackeral wrote: »

Funny, most people would hope their kids won’t smoke yet you’d be there encouraging them to be mini scrotes and stick it to “the man”. Sad.

So you can't articulate why somebody's a knacker if they throw a cigarette butt away in public? Of course you can't because it isn't true. It's something you were probably raised to believe and never questioned it. Maybe this is your Amsterdam/The Hague moment.

B.A._Baracus

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Why should I a allow someone to dump in my Apartment or on the roads? It costs me money as I pay maintenance.

For the record. I have pulled up Men, Women and teenagers for littering. I will continue to do it.

Facing off against travellers that live beside on my road in court. Personally I don't see it as safe.

It's your opinion that I am petty. Like my opinion that littering including throwing butts out the windows is scumbag behaviour. Butts are over half of all littering.

Have you ever done it?

you havent your balls pulled people up over it :pac:

and no, i haven't. Wouldnt mind actually doing it to see the look on your face tho lol. All you would do is hit me with a dirty look. Unless you see my reg.

Out of the many many wrong things that happens in this world on a daily basis throwing a butt away is the least of them.

Ryath

Irish_peppa wrote: »

PS I didnt realise they had stopped putting ash trays in cars ! Wow thats cool !:cool:

They're not standard in car's anymore but most would still have a smokers pack as an optional extra that fits in the central console or the cup holder and the 12v lighter.

Omackeral

I think throwing any litter on the ground is lazy and repulsive. It’s honestly that simple. That’s it.

Stevieluvsye

Anyone who litters has as much self respect for themselves as they do their own surroundings

Manky manky manky

Eire Go Brach

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

you havent your balls pulled people up over it :pac:

and no, i haven't. Wouldnt mind actually doing it to see the look on your face tho lol. All you would do is hit me with a dirty look. Unless you see my reg.

Out of the many many wrong things that happens in this world on a daily basis throwing a butt away is the least of them.

Big Man You

Raconteuse

Hammer89 wrote: »

I see no issue with flicking a smoke out the car window, or flicking a cigarette anywhere for that matter. It really isn't a big deal.

People who get upset over it are the original snowflakes, and by that I mean they're only outraged because they can be, not because they're genuinely disgusted with the act itself. They'll tell you that they are disgusted, but really it's a case of complaining just to complain.

They might feign concern about the environment or something to validate the grievance but, as I said, it's feigned and without merit. I can understand with rubbish, because it makes the place - whatever place - a bit unsightly. An empty bottle of coke isn't going to perish within hours in the same way that a cigarette butt would and does.

Feigned? You can't know this. It looks like you're just projecting to make yourself feel better (I can't know that for sure either but it does look that way, whereas you've no grounds for saying the others are "feigning" objection).

If a person disapproves of throwing any other litter out the car window or whatever scenario, then they'd surely disapprove of discarding cigarette butts in such a way.

Bobblehats

I like cig-butts and I cannot lie.
When one lands in my eye
When a car drives by with a ciggy butt to waste and it lands up in your face that’s ace

norabattie

As a smoker it is actually a real pet hate of mine to see people throwing fag butts out the window. No excuse for it.
My friend says she doesn't have an astray so I bought her one for €3. Like I said no excuse.

Oh and the person asking about ashtrays. My car came with one . It's a pretty new Octavia

TuringBot47

Hammer89 wrote: »

So you can't articulate why somebody's a knacker if they throw a cigarette butt away in public?

A picture says a thousand words.



If you need someone to explain it then that's a poor reflection on your upbringing.

Hammer89

TuringBot47 wrote: »

A picture says a thousand words.



If you need someone to explain it then that's a poor reflection on your upbringing.

Interestingly, I'd argue you're a bigger scumbag than any smoker if you question my parents and the job they did on the back of a 17-word sentence that I wrote. It's prejudice really because you don't know me or my parents, one of whom has passed away, and isn't prejudice a far bigger stain on any society than flicking away cigarette butts?

I reckon it is you know.

Hammer89

Raconteuse wrote: »

Feigned? You can't know this. It looks like you're just projecting to make yourself feel better.

I don't need to make myself feel better because I don't believe there's anything inherently wrong with flicking a cigarette away.

Stateofyou

Hammer89 wrote: »

I don't need to make myself feel better because I don't believe there's anything inherently wrong with flicking a cigarette away.

See anything wrong here?

Cigarettes are the most littered item on earth. Worldwide, about 4.5 trillion cigarettes are littered each year.

Littered cigarette butts leach toxic chemicals—such as arsenic (used to kill rats) and lead, to name a few—into the environment and can contaminate water. The toxic exposure can poison fish, as well as animals who eat cigarette butts. If you throw your cigarette butts on the ground, they eventually find their way to the ocean and other water sheds and YOU are contributing to the most commonly found man-made waste that originates from land.

Plastic pieces have been found in the stomachs of fish, birds, whales, and other marine creatures that mistake them as food, swallowing harmful plastic and toxic chemicals. Ingestion of plastic cigarette filters is a threat to wildlife. Sometimes even young children pick up and ingest cigarette butts.
Wind and rain often carry cigarette butts into waterways, where the toxic chemicals in the cigarette filters leak out, threatening the quality of the water and the creatures that live in it.

98 percent of cigarette filters are made of plastic fibers (cellulose acetate) that are tightly packed together, which leads to an estimated 1.69 billion pounds of cigarette butts winding up as toxic trash each year.

The plastic fibers in cigarettes are non-biodegradable, meaning they won't organically break down. Although cigarettes don’t break down naturally, they can gradually decompose depending on environmental conditions like the rain and sun. Estimates on the time it takes vary, but a recent study found that a cigarette butt was only about 38 percent decomposed after two years. It can take total up to 25 years to break down.

Some of the costs are associated with the manpower and resources to pick up litter. Who picks up litter? Employees of parks, schools, hotels, restaurants, and local governments have to pick up litter, as well as volunteers who care about the environment.
Cigarettes are often littered within 10 feet of a permanent ashtray. Now that most buildings do not allow smoking inside, the problem of discarded butts on sidewalks, entryways and in courtyards is increasing.
Other costs are incurred when a discarded cigarette butt starts a fire that destroys a forest, a field, or people's homes. Fires caused by cigarette butts claim the lives of about 1,000 people and injure about 3,000 people each year.
The costs of "lost revenue" are incurred when tourists will not spend their vacation dollars to visit a beach or park that is full of litter and trash.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/cigarettes-account-for-half-of-all-litter-in-ireland-report-finds-1.3954730