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GE2020: Kildare North

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    #362
    ghostdancer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    several have brought down their rates though. I'm with AIB and it has dropped 3 times in the last 4 years.


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    #363
    Valhallapt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    ghostdancer wrote: »
    several have brought down their rates though. I'm with AIB and it has dropped 3 times in the last 4 years.

    It’s still disproportionately high though. Anything above 2% is damaging to the economy.


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    #364
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    It’s still disproportionately high though. Anything above 2% is damaging to the economy.

    Sure, what we need now is cheaper mortgages. That's the solution to the housing crisis.


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    #365
    Valhallapt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    buffalo wrote: »
    Sure, what we need now is cheaper mortgages. That's the solution to the housing crisis.

    How did you form that opinion?


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    #366
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    How did you form that opinion?



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    #367
    Valhallapt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    buffalo wrote: »

    I still don’t get it


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    #368
    Doodah7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    Maybe people could take interest rate discussions to another forum?? This is about the general election...


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    #369
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Doodah7 wrote: »
    Maybe people could take interest rate discussions to another forum?? This is about the general election...

    Well I think they go hand in hand. The reason people voted for change is relevant to be fair.


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    #370
    Valhallapt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Should have count 5 just after 11, I’m hearing Lawlor transferring to durkin well. I’d say durkin is most likely to take fourth seat.


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    #371
    Doodah7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Well I think they go hand in hand. The reason people voted for change is relevant to be fair.

    I don't care about an interest rate discussion. I care about the General Election. This is the thread for the General Election. Simples.


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    #372
    daheff
    Registered Users Posts: 5,866 ✭✭✭daheff


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    Should have count 5 just after 11, I’m hearing Lawlor transferring to durkin well. I’d say durkin is most likely to take fourth seat.

    Yeah I think Frank's in big trouble. Most of lawlors votes should transfer to Durkin. It'll then go down to where Martin's votes transfer. I'd imagine a lot would go SF first...then sd after. 4th + prefs could decide this!


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    #373
    Valhallapt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Count 5
    Reada Cronin (sf) +109 (9732)
    Bernard Durkin (fg) + 2515 (8521)
    James Lawless (ff) 492 (7909)
    Frank O’rourke (ff) +203 (7238)
    Vincent P Martin (gn) +463 (6674) eliminated.
    No quota reached distribution of Martins votes

    I'm disappointed to see Martin gone


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    #374
    scheister
    Registered Users Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭scheister


    daheff wrote: »
    Yeah I think Frank's in big trouble. Most of lawlors votes should transfer to Durkin. It'll then go down to where Martin's votes transfer. I'd imagine a lot would go SF first...then sd after. 4th + prefs could decide this!

    Count 5

    Cronin +109 (+9732)
    Durkan +2515 (8521)
    Lawless +492 (7909)
    O'rourke +209 (7238)
    Martin +463 (6674)

    Martin eliminated


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    #375
    Orion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    daheff wrote: »
    Yeah I think Frank's in big trouble. Most of lawlors votes should transfer to Durkin. It'll then go down to where Martin's votes transfer. I'd imagine a lot would go SF first...then sd after. 4th + prefs could decide this!

    And they did. That's Durkan safe and I can't see Frank getting transfers from Green. They'll go SF, Lawless and non-transferable.


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    #376
    Valhallapt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    Count 5
    Reada Cronin (sf) +109 (9732)
    Bernard Durkin (fg) + 2515 (8521)
    James Lawless (ff) 492 (7909)
    Frank O’rourke (ff) +203 (7238)
    Vincent P Martin (gn) +463 (6674) eliminated.
    No quota reached distribution of Martins votes

    I'm disappointed to see Martin gone

    Its still very tight, I can see Martins vote going everywhere buy slight preference to Cronin and Lawless which is all they need


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    #377
    Orion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    Cronin doesn't need them - she's in anyway. I looked at Martin's count yesterday and they are going geographically and left. There will be a lot of non-transferable votes too.


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    #378
    Scoundrel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    If a company like intel decided to halt building because of opressive tax regimes thatll be needed to build all these free shinner gafs , youd certainly see ‘change’

    Right wing nonsense no such thing as free houses and as for opressive tax regimes all SF are asking is that intel and other major corporations actually pay what they owe.


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    #379
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,746 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Scoundrel wrote: »
    Right wing nonsense no such thing as free houses and as for opressive tax regimes all SF are asking is that intel and other major corporations actually pay what they owe.
    What do they actually owe?


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    #380
    daheff
    Registered Users Posts: 5,866 ✭✭✭daheff


    Scoundrel wrote: »
    Right wing nonsense no such thing as free houses and as for opressive tax regimes all SF are asking is that intel and other major corporations actually pay what they owe.

    Pretty sure mncs pay their taxes according to prevailing tax law. Otherwise revenue & auditors would have all kind of flags going off


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    #381
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    daheff wrote: »
    Pretty sure mncs pay their taxes according to prevailing tax law. Otherwise revenue & auditors would have all kind of flags going off

    This.

    Its not the MNCs fault tax is next or nothing. Thats what needs changing.


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    #382
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    There's enormous sums of money coming in from the MNCs.

    On the bright side if Intel decided to leave North Kildare it would sort out a chunk of the housing crisis there pretty sharpish. :pac:


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    #383
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Topgear on Dave wrote: »
    There's enormous sums of money coming in from the MNCs.

    On the bright side if Intel decided to leave North Kildare it would sort out a chunk of the housing crisis there pretty sharpish. :pac:

    Yeh but people seems to buy the dooms day scenrios being put out there by ibec and FFG that if Intel etc were asked to pay a little extra in tue way of tax they'd be gone. Its not that simplistic.


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    #384
    BaronVon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    Its still very tight, I can see Martins vote going everywhere buy slight preference to Cronin and Lawless which is all they need

    Yeah, Martin is Sallins too, so you'd imagine he'd transfer more to Lawless than O'Rourke


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    #385
    BaronVon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    Cronin (+1347) 11,079 - Elected
    Durkan (+1037) 10,258 - Elected
    Lawless (+1488) 9,357 -
    O'Rourke (+718) 7,958 -


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    #386
    BaronVon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    Last seat between Lawless and O'Rourke, has to be Lawless'


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    #387
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    BaronVon wrote: »
    Last seat between Lawless and O'Rourke, has to be Lawless'

    Is O'Rourke not gone. Lawless is ahead of him and their are no more candidates to eliminate.


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    #388
    Redsoxfan
    Registered Users Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Frank is gone.


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    #389
    Orion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    ShyMets wrote: »
    Is O'Rourke not gone. Lawless is ahead of him and their are no more candidates to eliminate.

    O'Rourke is gone. The count is over.


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    #390
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    Orion wrote: »
    O'Rourke is gone. The count is over.

    Can't say I'll be shedding too many tears over that


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    #391
    Orion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    Neither will a lot of FF tbh.


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