National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

mp3guy

corks finest wrote: »

I'm in Carrigaline and not seeing any adds etc fir same,ive siro VF in Carrigaline, it goes from absolutely brilliant to ****e- 700 mb- 35 MB

That sounds awful.

westyIrl

corks finest wrote: »

I'm in Carrigaline and not seeing any adds etc fir same,ive siro VF in Carrigaline, it goes from absolutely brilliant to ****e- 700 mb- 35 MB

Did they give you any idea what was causing this issue? That would peeve me off big time.

jones

Wow the worst case scenario 35mb is five times faster than my fastest connection :-(

Jofspring

Ya surely at 35 you can do pretty much everything you want. I've only 3 max and I'm able to watch Netflix, Amazon, sky go and play online games. If the speed drops at all I have issues but can only dream at the moment of having 35.

joe123

NBAiii wrote: »

14km was just in one direction in one deployment area. It may be less or slightly more in other locations. I would agree with you though that Belclare looks likely to cover Headford.

I've another question :pac:

You mentioned how they are currently working on 33 OLT areas. Would you have any idea how they progress after these initial 33?

If they have 227 in total, Im curious how they would then decide to select the next batch of OLT areas to work out from.

ACitizenErased

Jofspring wrote: »

Ya surely at 35 you can do pretty much everything you want. I've only 3 max and I'm able to watch Netflix, Amazon, sky go and play online games. If the speed drops at all I have issues but can only dream at the moment of having 35.

Likewise, with 3. 35 would be incredible!

Tommy Lagahan

Got this outta NBI on twitter earlier:

It is anticipated that survey works will be carried out in parts of Donegal in Q3 of this year.

Orebro

It's a bit annoying that they're on a PR exercise at the moment on social media, telling people to get in touch, and then to just send out the boiler plate response!

mp3guy

Orebro wrote: »

It's a bit annoying that they're on a PR exercise at the moment on social media, telling people to get in touch, and then to just send out the boiler plate response!

Yeah, what's the point? Not like they need to advertise, pretty sure 99% of the homes they hook up will be availing of the services, that's the whole point.

heavydawson

mp3guy wrote: »

Yeah, what's the point? Not like they need to advertise, pretty sure 99% of the homes they hook up will be availing of the services, that's the whole point.

20% is more likely in the initial stages:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30895397.html

Twitter is cheap PR, so they're right to use it as much as possible. Cheaper than buying ad space / air time.
Their lack of transparency on rollout timeframe (beyond carrigaline, and even at a quarterly level of granularity) is frustrating, and that's what I hope to see rectified ASAP. It's not unreasonable to think the government has access to detailed progress reports (they'd want to given their investment), so it's a pity those cant be distilled for public consumption. I was surveyed two months ago and my eircode still is listed as "Awaiting survey"

NBAiii

joe123 wrote: »

I've another question :pac:

You mentioned how they are currently working on 33 OLT areas. Would you have any idea how they progress after these initial 33?

If they have 227 in total, Im curious how they would then decide to select the next batch of OLT areas to work out from.

I don't know what their plans are after the initial phase is. From what they said yesterday it seems that it will be at least 18 months before this phase is completed. Work in Carrigaline and Cavan is to begin in the next fortnight with Galway, Tralee and Wexford town being next in 2021.

TheSegal

NBAiii wrote: »

I don't know what their plans are after the initial phase is. From what they said yesterday it seems that it will be at least 18 months before this phase is completed. Work in Carrigaline and Cavan is to begin in the next fortnight with Galway, Tralee and Wexford town being next in 2021.

The due date for my road in Galway is Dec 2020-Feb2021, was really hoping to have it this side of Christmas but not so hopeful now after your comment

HairySalmon

TheSegal wrote: »

The due date for my road in Galway is Dec 2020-Feb2021, was really hoping to have it this side of Christmas but not so hopeful now after your comment

Where can you find the due dates? It just says I’m pending a survey when I enter my Eircode

listermint

Surprised this isn't posted. It's been out two hours


https://mobile.twitter.com/rtenews/status/1298302668188901376

Capt'n Midnight

listermint wrote: »

Surprised this isn't posted. It's been out two hours


https://mobile.twitter.com/rtenews/status/1298302668188901376

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0825/1161258-contract-published-for-national-broadband-plan/
no link to doc though.

listermint

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0825/1161258-contract-published-for-national-broadband-plan/
no link to doc though.

That's easy

https://gov.ie/en/publication/16717-national-broadband-plan-contract/…

joe123

NBAiii wrote: »

I don't know what their plans are after the initial phase is. From what they said yesterday it seems that it will be at least 18 months before this phase is completed. Work in Carrigaline and Cavan is to begin in the next fortnight with Galway, Tralee and Wexford town being next in 2021.

Oh damn, I would have assumed that surveying would loop back around again once all counties have phase 1 surveying done, theres only 6 or so counties left at this stage?

I expected they would have Surveying teams and build teams.

Id be hoping then build work etc would be one team, and the surveyors would continue surveying?

Example:

Phase 1: Survey parts of ALL counties
Begin build for Cork, Cavan, Galway, etc
Begin connections for Cork, Cavan Galway etc

Phase 2: Survey parts of ALL counties (next batch of townlands)
Begin build for previously surveyed counties from phase 1
Begin connections for previously surveyed counties from phase 1

Rinse and Repeat.

Am I way off on this? Or is the plan to Survey, then build, then connect. THEN start phase 2 surveying?

Orebro

TheSegal wrote: »

The due date for my road in Galway is Dec 2020-Feb2021, was really hoping to have it this side of Christmas but not so hopeful now after your comment

Ah here, you're going to be one of the first in the country to be connected, you don't have any grounds for complaint

Orebro

joe123 wrote: »

Am I way off on this? Or is the plan to Survey, then build, then connect. THEN start phase 2 surveying?

I wouldn't think the teams mounting cable on poles are the same teams doing ground surveys, so to me it makes sense that surveying keeps going at full speed until they have the entire country done. That way they can give timelines into the future too, long before connections are going to happen.

TheSegal

Orebro wrote: »

Ah here, you're going to be one of the first in the country to be connected, you don't have any grounds for complaint

Sorry, you're completely right! The next 4 months will feel like an eternity but it's not that far at all!

joe123

TheSegal wrote: »

Sorry, you're completely right! The next 4 months will feel like an eternity but it's not that far at all!

I swear im not jealous..... Frustrating for us living in a town 20 minutes from Galway City and we still have no survey date stuck on less than 10Mb (also told at the beginning we were surveyed which proved to be incorrect)

So its great its the first county to be connected, but only a small portion of it!

fergus1001

HairySalmon wrote:

Where can you find the due dates? It just says I’m pending a survey when I enter my Eircode

this !

Wing126

Would be safe to say you won't get a due date if your premises hasn't been surveyed.

Reach out to them directly either via email or twitter and they may be able to give you something more concrete. But until they survey you, they won't know how much work needs to be done to get you connected!

dollylama

Am I wrong in thinking that eir already had all this survey work done some 3-5 years ago? I recall teams out geo-tagging poles, marking defectives poles and studying ducts to houses.

Surely it would be cheaper and speedier for NBI to just buy the info from eir and fill in the gaps

TheSegal

You're assuming OpenEIR is willing to part with that info or that they did it at all. Also, things have changed in the last few years with new builds, road works, trees, etc... so everything needs to be surveyed again so nothing pops up out of the blue so they can stick to a schedule. Since it's a private operation i'm sure they want to get it done as quick and efficient as possible to start getting some revenue in from sellers

Orebro

dollylama wrote: »

Am I wrong in thinking that eir already had all this survey work done some 3-5 years ago? I recall teams out geo-tagging poles, marking defectives poles and studying ducts to houses.

Surely it would be cheaper and speedier for NBI to just buy the info from eir and fill in the gaps

Wouldn't the Eir survey only cover the areas that NBI don't need to go?

ECO_Mental

Just picking up on what my contact in one of the contractors said that they were back hauling on to the ENET infrastructure it makes sense that Carrigaline is going first. When you look at their fiber in and around Carrigaline its very extensive and covers a lot of area.

https://www.enet.ie/mans-search.html

Tony H

got surveyed this morning Cobh( near Dockyard) and on site it says Dec 2020 / Feb 2021 , here's hoping !

joe123

Tony H wrote: »

got surveyed this morning Cobh( near Dockyard) and on site it says Dec 2020 / Feb 2021 , here's hoping !

Were they just outside your house or did they require to check additional structure? Do you know was the site just updated recently for your area?

Tony H

joe123 wrote: »

Were they just outside your house or did they require to check additional structure? Do you know was the site just updated recently for your area?

the guy in a nbi van checked the pole and tagged it with a barcode , the pole is inside our gate ,and he also tagged two more nearby poles,
saw another crew
near Carrigaloe train station clearing overhanging branches from Eir poles