new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

ObiTwoKenobi

1. Keep yourself informed
2. Stay alert to the possible danger
3. Prepare as you see fit
4. Don't Panic
5. Repeat

ObiTwoKenobi

josip wrote: »

Reminds me of


https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/rat-catchers-1900s/

What an interesting website. Thanks for sharing.

Tipperary animal lover

Second death in Japan from it.

Hector Savage

I saw a video on James Woods twitter account, it looks terryifying ... I don't want to link it ... but here is JAmes Woods Twitter main page
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

dominatinMC

So instead of reporting on the actual facts and severity of the Coronavirus case, RTE News: Six One run a politically loaded piece about Chinese people in Ireland experiencing discrimination here as a result of the Corona virus outbreak. Given that the general public (I'd include myself in that) are ill-informed on the subject (which RTE themselves are partly responsible for), I doubt this "discrimination" can be too widespread. Why is this even an issue for RTE?! And if someone, God forbid, decides to take a caution first approach towards someone who might appear to originate from the country where this virus is rampant, they can hardly be blamed. RTE would want to seriously get their priorities straight

BloodBath

Hector Savage wrote: »

I saw a video on James Woods twitter account, it looks terryifying ... I don't want to link it ... but here is JAmes Woods Twitter main page
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Looks fake. Very easy to add sound to something. 0 people reacting to gunshots? Sure.

Twitter is a load of crap.

odyssey06

For RTE its not a story unless they can use it to virtue signal.

Wibbs

Hector Savage wrote: »

I saw a video on James Woods twitter account, it looks terryifying ... I don't want to link it ... but here is JAmes Woods Twitter main page
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

A) James Woods is a bit of a fruitcake. One of those Americans still looking for Reds under the bed 60 years on.
the video is fake as fook. The footage of the armed troops looks legit, but gives no context, the gunshots are clearly added in later. Note how the people don't flinch at all with each report. Look at any footage of real gunfire and civilians in a public setting, they naturally flinch.

sdanseo

Wibbs wrote: »

A) James Woods is a bit of a fruitcake. One of those Americans still looking for Reds under the bed 60 years on.
the video is fake as fook. The footage of the armed troops looks legit, but gives no context, the gunshots are clearly added in later. Note how the people don't flinch at all with each report. Look at any footage of real gunfire and civilians in a public setting, they naturally flinch.

I saw the original video (weeks ago now).

There were no gunshots.

ardinn

There are a few possibilities.

Someone said the woman was in a scooter accident - not sure why the person beside her however is in "shot in back of head pose"

Another said she was shot trying to break a quarantine barracade - which is in my mind, a little harsh, but, your in Communist China, im sure you should know better.

The videos of people attending the sick on the road were released ages ago - I saw them up to and maybe beyond 2 weeks ago, they did then however also contain gunshots. If you are hearing constant gunshots and are aware they are a few streets away, you wouldnt really be jumping every 3/4 of a second.

Another theory on the armed police, they are going to cull animals.


Or its all entirely possible the chinese are now just murdering infected people!

BloodBath

ardinn wrote: »

There are a few possibilities.

Someone said the woman was in a scooter accident - not sure why the person beside her however is in "shot in back of head pose"

Another said she was shot trying to break a quarantine barracade - which is in my mind, a little harsh, but, your in Communist China, im sure you should know better.

The videos of people attending the sick on the road were released ages ago - I saw them up to and maybe beyond 2 weeks ago, they did then however also contain gunshots. If you are hearing constant gunshots and are aware they are a few streets away, you wouldnt really be jumping every 3/4 of a second.

Another theory on the armed police, they are going to cull animals.


Or its all entirely possible the chinese are now just murdering infected people!

Bull****.

You would react to them in some way. Nobody reacts in any way whatsoever.

If this kind of **** was going on do you think they could keep it hushed up? It's not north korea.

bodhrandude

Tipperary animal lover wrote: »

Second death in Japan from it.

Any links, was Googling it and can only find news about the first death in Japan.

s7ryf3925pivug

Easy to get parking at the Chinese restaurant at lunch today. Usually packed tight. Silver linings.

There should be an RTE person equivalent to Teresa Mannion & her weather/driving advice that could give out simple tips as directed by HSE/Dept Health. The late Keelin Shanley would have been an ideal persona for that.

FishOnABike

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

This is all a bit Irish isn't it? So we have no mechanism like every other country to deal with this?

So if it arrives tomorrow we cant forcibly quarantine?

lol, good luck folks.

Section 38 of the Health Act 1947 makes provision for Detention and isolation of person who is probable source of infection.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1947/act/28/section/38/enacted/en/html

If it is necessary for a person to be quarantined they can be, by force if needs be.

Cody montana

ObiTwoKenobi wrote: »

1. Keep yourself informed
2. Stay alert to the possible danger
3. Prepare as you see fit
4. Don't Panic
5. Repeat

Are we going to war or something?

bodhrandude

A Russian woman who has defied orders for quarantine has blockaded herself in her house and is refusing to open the door to the police.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51488861

ardinn

bodhrandude wrote: »

A Russian woman who has defied orders for quarantine has blockaded herself in her house and is refusing to open the door to the police.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51488861

So she is self isolating!

ObiTwoKenobi

ObiTwoKenobi wrote: »

1. Keep yourself informed
2. Stay alert to the possible danger
3. Prepare as you see fit
4. Don't Panic
5. Repeat

Dad’s Army & Corporal Jones

bodhrandude

ardinn wrote: »

So she is self isolating!

I'm not criticising her or anything but she was supposed to stay in the isolation place.

s7ryf3925pivug

Self isolating is fine but the people I'd be most concerned about infecting are the other ones in my house.

Best idea is for the sick person to lock themselves in the spare room. Set up air purifier. Point a fan out the window as a quasi negative pressure set-up. Make sure they don't need hospital. Make arrangements for transport there if it is needed that doesn't include other adult or the baby. Use disposable plates and cutlery and follow established protocols for hazardous waste disposal to get rid of them. Toilet arrangements would need to be considered too. Use masks if there is a need to leave the room.

Also should plan for eventuality of baby getting sick but that is hard to countenance.

one armed dwarf

Yeah if I get sick I hope I get carted away and locked up tbh. I've a housemate with diabetes and I don't want that on my conscience

s7ryf3925pivug

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Yeah if I get sick I hope I get carted away and locked up tbh. I've a housemate with diabetes and I don't want that on my conscience

Yeah I'd prefer hospitalisation too for a similar reason. Statistically you're more likely not to need it though.

Tipperary animal lover

bodhrandude wrote: »

Any links, was Googling it and can only find news about the first death in Japan.

Second death on Japanese soil, first one was a chinese person, second person(first Japanese person) died today, on another note heading to vietnam in a few weeks and after reading news that they have quarantined a town(10,000 people) in north vietnam, up to six people from this area have the virus.

Dante7

bodhrandude wrote: »

A Russian woman who has defied orders for quarantine has blockaded herself in her house and is refusing to open the door to the police.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51488861

Take that you bastards! You won't quarantine me!

Sheep Shagger

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Think I know the answer to the question but am interested in getting peoples opinion.

We are in the throws of arranging a family catch up in Maylasia in the summer (flying in to Bangkok). Before we pull the trigger on booking and paying for the long haul flights this week, would our travel insurance (which I plan to buy from multi trip.com at the same time) cover us should either counter become an affected zone.

Korea have advised it's people to not travel to Maylasia. Ireland have not (yet).

Have a query with Multitrip.com and they are the checking...

So multi trip.com said they can cover it if I buy the enhanced cancellation cover - moves the annual premium from €79 to €119 and the additional cover won't apply for 7 days (so if Maylasua or Thailand became no go zones in the next week we would not be covered). Could buy insurance now and then the flights in a week.

Checked VHI travel insurance just now and while their premium is €107 they don't charge extra to have cancellation due to epidemic covered- nor do they have the 7 day rule either.

Decisions decisions, If it was just us I'd postpone the trip for a year but with a group involved it makes it harder (to cancel). Some of the group are based in Asia

creditcarder

Tipperary animal lover wrote: »

Second death on Japanese soil, first one was a chinese person, second person(first Japanese person) died today, on another note heading to vietnam in a few weeks and after reading news that they have quarantined a town(10,000 people) in north vietnam, up to six people from this area have the virus.

To live or to visit as a matter of interest?

cnocbui

cnocbui wrote: »

The stuff I got from Lidl has Aloe Vera in it along with the 73.5% Ethanol.

Thats the stuff i use. My hands have never been so soft.

Tipperary animal lover

creditcarder wrote: »

To live or to visit as a matter of interest?

At the moment were still heading over, staying with friends in an area outside nha trang ( which had one case but the lady has been given the all clear two weeks ago), fingers crossed all goes ok

saabsaab

I see RTE news had an item about discrimination against Chinese people in Ireland. That restaurants had 50% down on normal and some Irish were avoiding getting too close to them.


Really? Our authorities have not stopped or quarantined those returning from China or other affected areas in the last month. How is the person in the street to know if that Asian person is a recent arrival or here for years. I don't blame people for not taking any chance even if it is very small.

thecheese

[url]Http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/patients-in-ireland-with-coronavirus-who-refuse-to-go-into-isolation-may-face-compulsory-quarantine-under-new-plans-38954445.html[/url]

Similar forced quarantine being explored in Ireland. Heard on Newstalk earlier today but this only article I can find on it

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227951785073090566

Ubbquittious

creditcarder wrote: »

sadly, the rich will be grand. Even if they get it they can hire a private nurse, have a private lung machine (whatever) flown to their mansion, and have some of the best doctors in the world on call.

That kind of thing only gets you so far. Look at Steve Jobs

ObiTwoKenobi

ObiTwoKenobi wrote: »

1. Keep yourself informed
2. Stay alert to the possible danger
3. Prepare as you see fit
4. Don't Panic
5. Repeat

Dad’s Army & Corporal Jones

jackboy

Ubbquittious wrote: »

That kind of thing only gets you so far. Look at Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs was treated with fake alternative treatments for quite a while. He probably would have died eventually anyway because of the type of cancer he had. Money can make a huge difference for many health issues though.

Wibbs

Ubbquittious wrote: »

That kind of thing only gets you so far. Look at Steve Jobs

Mainly because he was a hippie and refused medical science in favour of "alternatives" for nearly a year after his cancer diagnosis. Even so he lasted well beyond the average life expectancy for his cancer.

saabsaab

Cody montana wrote: »

Are we going to war or something?

Yes, we are. the enemy is at the gates!

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

Mainly because he was a hippie and refused medical science in favour of "alternatives" for nearly a year after his cancer diagnosis. Even so he lasted well beyond the average life expectancy for his cancer.

Surprisingly the well known and wealthy can get bad treatment too here. Garrett Fitzgerald was turned away from public emergency dept just before his death with a prescription before his daughter phoned a doctor at the Mater Private to get him in there for his final two weeks.

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saabsaab wrote: »

Yes, we are. the enemy is at the gates!

This thread has gone beyond saving but it's really entertaining, so I don't mind too much.

If the virus doesn't get me, I'll die laughing I suppose.

Ubbquittious

Wibbs wrote: »

Mainly because he was a hippie and refused medical science in favour of "alternatives" for nearly a year after his cancer diagnosis. Even so he lasted well beyond the average life expectancy for his cancer.

Ouch. That can't have helped his cause. Knew someone who tried something similar and died at 26

silverharp

was Jobs the one that went on a fruitarian diet?, that's not even alternative just fkn retarded

Fr_Dougal

silverharp wrote: »

was Jobs the one that went on a fruitarian diet?, that's not even alternative just fkn retarded

Someone told him that an Apple a day keeps the doctor away.

Coat, door.

ceadaoin.

jackboy wrote: »

Steve Jobs was treated with fake alternative treatments for quite a while. He probably would have died eventually anyway because of the type of cancer he had. Money can make a huge difference for many health issues though.

I thought the type of cancer he had originally was one of the rare forms of pancreatic cancer that is very treatable? If he had had the recommended surgery at soon as he was diagnosed he more than likely would have lived a lot longer or even beaten it altogether. He didnt opt for this though until the cancer had spread, instead trying alternative treatments

Jobs was diagnosed with a rare form of pancreatic cancer, called an islet cell tumor or gasteroenteropancreatic neuroendocrine tumor (GEP-NET), which is a different form of pancreatic cancer than the highly aggressive and often rapidly fatal pancreatic adenocarcinoma. GEP-NETs are slow growing tumors that have the potential to be cured surgically if the tumor is removed prior to metastasis

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4924574/

saabsaab

RTE doing a segment on 'Corona Virus' in the next while on One if anyone interested.

babybuilder

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51491763

Some tests showing up false negative .

s7ryf3925pivug

silverharp wrote: »

was Jobs the one that went on a fruitarian diet?, that's not even alternative just fkn retarded

yes
and yes

gozunda

saabsaab wrote: »

Yes, we are. the enemy is at the gates!

Bill Gates?

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00379-9

Wherever that guy shows up theres a disaster brewing for sure! He's a feking jinx!

fritzelly

Dafuq

http://archive.ph/rTZpR

wakka12

Surprised this hasnt been mentioned, 10 patients aboard the Japanese cruise ship have developed into severe condition
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20200213-00000148-jij-soci

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Guy from the RCSI on Prime Time seemed fairly chill about the whole thing in general.