new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

fr336

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Imy about to throw on contagion.... the movie might send me over the edge..... but....the whiskey should counteract my inevitable hysteria.....

Ah Elton..I heard you were poorly earlier in the week...nothing contangious I hope?

givyjoe

Nonoperational wrote: »

Oh no... we really don't. I have had massive banter reading this thread. It's genuinely great.

https://images.app.goo.gl/jeQ5778szXCPbTQy8

fr336

It was going well until the second part...

Eugene Gu, MD
@eugenegu
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11m
Based on the quick spread of the coronavirus on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, it’s likely the coronavirus spreads similarly to the norovirus, which is through the fecal-oral route and through contaminated objects called fomites that eventually contaminate our food and water.

gozunda

fr336 wrote: »

It was going well until the second part...

Eugene Gu, MD
@eugenegu
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11m
Based on the quick spread of the coronavirus on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, it’s likely the coronavirus spreads similarly to the norovirus, which is through the fecal-oral route and through contaminated objects called fomites that eventually contaminate our food and water.

Second part of ?

Btw 'Formites' are objects or materials which are likely to carry infection, such as clothes, utensils, and furniture.

4068ac1elhodqr

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Read the bible and hope for the best is your only option now.

Except if your in China, they may send to the Gulag (re-education centre).

Must be tough enough for their worker drones to be sent off to the crem if deemed unfit for purpose/recovery. Not even a few flowers, good luck charms, hymns nor incense.

However some of the earlier utube vids from China showed plenty of folks resorting to Buddist chanty music (decent enough with the singing bowls) to while away their building's lockdown. Guess as long as it's kept at low volume and no visual symbology, they'll be allowed to continue.

Spanish Eyes

Watched a few minutes of Dr John live stream.. he sounds like he might have caught it already with all his coughing.

No doubt it’s getting closer to us alright.

Surprised Oz and NZ have no (reported) cases given the trade and tourism with China.

Spanish Eyes

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Watched a few minutes of Dr John live stream.. he sounds like he might have caught it already with all his coughing.

No doubt it’s getting closer to us alright.

Surprised Oz and NZ have no (reported) cases given the trade and tourism with China.

Australia has cases

4068ac1elhodqr

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Watched a few minutes of Dr John live stream.. he sounds like he might have caught it already with all his coughing.
No doubt it’s getting closer to us alright.

Surprised Oz and NZ have no (reported) cases given the trade and tourism with China.

Think the Aussies have about 20 confirmed around their main states, they also use Chrissy Island and Darwin for inbound cases.

Spanish Eyes

Ok thanks for info re Oz And NZ. Hadn’t heard that, must admit. Not surprised though.

fritzelly

Are not all the Oz cases people from China that got moved back - is there a single case of H2H there outside the quarantine?

Nonoperational

Ficheall wrote: »

Jesus Christ..

Shocking altogether...

el Fenomeno

Bit concerned about the Milan confirmation now. I work for an Italian company, and about 50 of our 100 odd employees are Italian (and most would have come direct from the Milan office). They travel home a lot, especially this week with mid term. And we often have convoys of the group company employees over to visit.

I'm perfectly healthy, but my mother has had some health issues and I'd worry about passing anything on. She lives down the country so perhaps I should just avoid visiting home until this all blows over.

Have a feeling if Id be laughed at if I asked any questions at work re: a contingency plan or anything like that.

Ficheall

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Have a feeling if Id be laughed at if I asked any questions at work re: a contingency plan or anything like that.

Ask. Might even spur them on to make a contingency plan if they haven't already. There are at least 50000 Italians being advised to stay at home as of yesterday, I don't think they can really believe you're being unreasonable for expressing concern..

RebelButtMunch

Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »

I thought we produce a food surplus?

I don't expect or even suggest the action; just curious about whether we could.

Medicine... fuel... probably loads more than just food

VinLieger

Italy up to 66 cases, sudden spike is only due to mass testing which means its most likely been there for a few weeks, im in no doubt its hiding here too now, will be doing my second prep shop on monday

cnocbui

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

Medicine... fuel... probably loads more than just food

Steak and chips and Viagra. We have the essentials.

wylo

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Bit concerned about the Milan confirmation now. I work for an Italian company, and about 50 of our 100 odd employees are Italian (and most would have come direct from the Milan office). They travel home a lot, especially this week with mid term. And we often have convoys of the group company employees over to visit.

I'm perfectly healthy, but my mother has had some health issues and I'd worry about passing anything on. She lives down the country so perhaps I should just avoid visiting home until this all blows over.

Have a feeling if Id be laughed at if I asked any questions at work re: a contingency plan or anything like that.

I think if there is another case or two in Milan and its showing signs of spreading there then I think you have a duty (to all of us) to flag this. But just one case Im not so sure.

VinLieger

cnocbui wrote: »

Steak and chips and Viagra. We have the essentials.

Dont forget sudacream

cnocbui

VinLieger wrote: »

Dont forget sudacream

Why, is it a good substitute for Astro Glide?

fritzelly

wylo wrote: »

I think if there is another case or two in Milan and its showing signs of spreading there then I think you have a duty (to all of us) to flag this. But just one case Im not so sure.

Already 2

TomSweeney

When would this be expected to peak in Europe ? since it is out now , and no stopping it ...

BorneTobyWilde

How does this virus maintain it's strength ? Will it not run it's course>? Does it not dilute down with every infection it causes

Ficheall

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How does this virus maintain it's strength ? Will it not run it's course>? Does it not dilute down with every infection it causes

Like Adam and Eve diluted down to nothing..?

fritzelly

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How does this virus maintain it's strength ? Will it not run it's course>? Does it not dilute down with every infection it causes

Viruses go 3 ways - stays the same, mutates to less damaging, mutates to "It's the end of the fcuking world"

VinLieger

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How does this virus maintain it's strength ? Will it not run it's course>? Does it not dilute down with every infection it causes

What? No that's not how this works, that's not how any flu or virus's work.


You might be confusing how if a virus is too lethal it can kill the host before they can become infectious or spread it to enough new hosts, this corona virus has a massive incubation and infectious stage prior to anyone showing symptoms so its ability to spread is unlike any flu like illness we have seen for some time.

BanditLuke

TomSweeney wrote: »

When would this be expected to peak in Europe ? since it is out now , and no stopping it ...

It seems to be following a similar pattern to what happened in China so you'd expect a peak in europe within the next 6 weeks.

BorneTobyWilde

TomSweeney wrote: »

When would this be expected to peak in Europe ? since it is out now , and no stopping it ...

If you calculate the time it takes to destroy a city and move on, we're looking at the worldwide destruction of every major city in the next 36 hours .

BorneTobyWilde

VinLieger wrote: »

What? No that's not how this works, that's not how any flu or virus's work.


You might be confusing how if a virus is too lethal it can kill the host before they can become infectious or spread it to enough new hosts, this corona virus has a massive incubation and infectious stage prior to anyone showing symptoms so its ability to spread is unlike any flu like illness we have seen for some time.

So it's not like a bottle of MiWadi , it simple won't dilute to the point the 100th person only get a tad taste of orange.

TomSweeney

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

If you calculate the time it takes to destroy a city and move on, we're looking at the worldwide destruction of every major city in the next 36 hours .

It's a bit optimistic for this thread!

But anyway, seriously it looks like this is here to stay and will be another type of flu one can get - perhaps a seasonal one.

I have not gotten flu for 25 years so, fingers crossed .... Jah Bless.....

cnocbui

Some really fast footwork in Australia:

Barely six weeks after the first recorded death from the new coronavirus in Wuhan, researchers in Australia will begin testing a potential vaccine on animals.

A factory in Melbourne on Friday began creating small doses of the vaccine for testing. If it keeps animals safe from the virus, it will be tested on humans.

The extraordinary plan – to develop a vaccine for a virus we barely understand, at breakneck pace – is being led by a team of scientists at the University of Queensland, with support from other teams around the country.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/coronavirus-outbreak-how-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-being-made-20200220-p542rh.html

fr336

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

If you calculate the time it takes to destroy a city and move on, we're looking at the worldwide destruction of every major city in the next 36 hours .

What a great week to look forward to!

Charles Babbage

BanditLuke wrote: »

It seems to be following a similar pattern to what happened in China so you'd expect a peak in europe within the next 6 weeks.

It isn't following the same pattern as Europe as in China.
When there were this number of cases in China the police were arresting anyone who talked about it. Big difference.

hmmm

TomSweeney wrote: »

When would this be expected to peak in Europe ? since it is out now , and no stopping it ...

Lots of debate, but some of the better scientists forecast the epidemic doubling every 6.4 days https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext

That looks like about 4-5 months. That also assumes there are no public health interventions to slow it down, which there will be. The health authorities will push to spread out the peak rather than have it happen over a short time.

givyjoe

TomSweeney wrote: »

It's a bit optimistic for this thread!

But anyway, seriously it looks like this is here to stay and will be another type of flu one can get - perhaps a seasonal one.

I have not gotten flu for 25 years so, fingers crossed .... Jah Bless.....

It's not flu it's not flu it's not flu

Spanish Eyes

Any cases in the US yet? I suppose Putin won’t tell us about Russia anyway.

givyjoe

cnocbui wrote: »

Some really fast footwork in Australia:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/coronavirus-outbreak-how-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-being-made-20200220-p542rh.html

I am legend style zombie apocalypse incoming.

BorneTobyWilde

Trump taking it seriously.

fritzelly

cnocbui wrote: »

Some really fast footwork in Australia:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/coronavirus-outbreak-how-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-being-made-20200220-p542rh.html

Means nothing - many vaccines never make it out of the lab as they are lethal to humans
When successful trials have been done on humans then it's time to rejoice
They still don't have vaccines for SARS or MERS do they?

TomSweeney

hmmm wrote: »

Lots of debate, but some of the better scientists forecast the epidemic doubling every 6.4 days https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext

That looks like about 4-5 months. That also assumes there are no public health interventions to slow it down, which there will be. The health authorities will push to spread out the peak rather than have it happen over a short time.

Bollocks, so I should cancel my trip to Norway in July so ... :mad:

ThePopehimself

I'm hoping someone can help...

Could anyone direct me to the Dr. John Campbell live stream where he talks about the effects of ibuprofen and paracetamol on a Virus related temperature? I watched it in the last day or two but cant seem to find it.

I would be very grateful for any help...many thanks

BanditLuke

AP now reporting 79 cases in Italy.

Also some talk that tomorrows Inter v Sampdoria game is going to get called off due to the crisis.

Kermit.de.frog

fritzelly

ThePopehimself wrote: »

I'm hoping someone can help...

Could anyone direct me to the Dr. John Campbell live stream where he talks about the effects of ibuprofen and paracetamol on a Virus related temperature? I watched it in the last day or two but cant seem to find it.

I would be very grateful for any help...many thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBHyBrbU6EI

Ficheall

ThePopehimself wrote: »

I'm hoping someone can help...

Could anyone direct me to the Dr. John Campbell live stream where he talks about the effects of ibuprofen and paracetamol on a Virus related temperature? I watched it in the last day or two but cant seem to find it.

I would be very grateful for any help...many thanks

I think the basic idea is that your body raises the temperature (which can be unpleasant) to fight the virus, paracetamol counteracts the temperature rising, so you feel better but are just stopping your body fighting the virus. Think that's more or less the jist.

YFlyer

fritzelly wrote: »

Viruses go 3 ways - stays the same, mutates to less damaging, mutates to "It's the end of the fcuking world"

Surely it can mutate a variation of these 3 major ways? Depending on host and environmental conditions.

BanditLuke

Italians taking it seriously. But hold on someone get the Italian embassy on the phone and tell them Boards.ie experts are saying it's okay and we are over reacting

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231349085900353537

SusanC10

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

If you calculate the time it takes to destroy a city and move on, we're looking at the worldwide destruction of every major city in the next 36 hours .

IIRC - that sounds like Independence Day.

BanditLuke

Americans getting peed off with the lack of transparency from the Chinese.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/republican-senator-china-lying-to-the-world-about-coronavirus-outbreak

Mic 1972

BanditLuke wrote: »

It seems to be following a similar pattern to what happened in China so you'd expect a peak in europe within the next 6 weeks.

The virus didn't peak in China yet, China only changed the reporting method but the virus is still spreading

BanditLuke

Stupid infectious disease experts, what do they know huh.

https://twitter.com/mxvxllxlll/status/1231330032355815424