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CinemaGuy45

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Woah! They’re not dead! They are sick but haven’t died.

You're correct got that mixed up sorry.

They are in a bad way however the couple that died were Japanese.

Jim_Hodge

Graces7 wrote: »

It was once mooted the eating liquorish would relieve M.E and we are highly motivated .. sadly a few died of liver/kidney failure eating too much .

I know it's nothing to do with Covid-19 but source please.

Over ingestion of liquorice can cause blood pressure issues and irregular heart beat. It's only known to affect kidneys in those already suffering from kidney disease. I'm not aware of anything but claimed beneficial impacts on liver.

I love all your references to "we". Do you speak for a group?

CinemaGuy45

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

That link is about 2 Japanese in their 80s

Yes sorry for the mix up I see that now.

Mic 1972

igCorcaigh wrote: »

These lock down conditions cannot be implemented everywhere, once we accept that we have moved beyond the containment phase, right?
Italy brings in draconian measures in effort to halt coronavirus spread
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/italy-draconian-measures-effort-halt-coronavirus-outbreak-spread?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Italy lived in a bubble until 3 days ago, they said the virus wasn't there and the risk to get it was 0%
Denial is our biggest problem, people should start now to take preconditions instead of later

Tom Mann Centuria

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Yes sorry for the mix up I see that now.

You're right about them being unwell though. He has a bad pneumonia which is worrying, his wife has pneumonia as well but is not as poorly as he is.

Gynoid

This thread can be quite unpleasant bytimes with some (often surprising) posters sticking their oar in to make really nasty swipes at an 80 year old woman in poor health. Use your fcuking ignore button rather than lower yerselves, ye gobshytes.

CinemaGuy45

Anybody going on holiday in the next few weeks anywhere is there a good chance of travel being canceled?

Opinions?

CinemaGuy45

Gynoid wrote: »

This thread can be quite unpleasant bytimes with some (often surprising) posters sticking their oar in to make really nasty swipes at an 80 year old woman in poor health. Use your fcuking ignore button rather than lower yerselves, ye gobshytes.

Sorry I must have missed that?

Jim_Hodge

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

You're correct got that mixed up sorry.

They are in a bad way however the couple that died were Japanese.

Not according to their son on the BBC last night. They are in hospital but not 'in a bad way'.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Doctor of immunology from the Mater was on the radio the other day. They have a quarantine ward all set up - with 6 beds. :rolleyes:

Quoting this old post to put some perspective on things. If what happened in Italy over the last few days had happened in Ireland instead, this is what facilities we would have to deal with it.

To put it bluntly, we’d be proper fooked!

igCorcaigh

Viruses are amazing though, without them we could not live.

They break down bacteria and release the carbon back in to the ecosystem.

People question if they are alive; I've always thought that they are a part of life. The definition of life can never be applied to an individual thing, only its role in the superstructure of life itself.

Stheno

Gynoid wrote: »

This thread can be quite unpleasant bytimes with some (often surprising) posters sticking their oar in to make really nasty swipes at an 80 year old woman in poor health. Use your fcuking ignore button rather than lower yerselves, ye gobshytes.

There are none so blind as those who cannot see tbh

coolshannagh28

If the disease becomes widespread would it be logical to seek exposure and treatment before medical capability is overwhelmed ?

Mic 1972

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Quoting this old post to put some perspective on things. If what happened in Italy over the last few days had happened in Ireland instead, this is what facilities we would have to deal with it.

To put it bluntly, we’d be proper fooked!

lucky ones who get it first will have a bed!

cnocbui

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Urban legend
People are dying in theirs 30s too, as for the underlying condition, that means anything including a normal flue that has affected your immune system. You don't have to be an elderly on death doorstep to be at risk

Knock it off. Yes I know of two cases of people in their 30's - both were doctors in China treating people with the disease. The vast majority of fatalities are in the old and ill category, and I am sure you probably know it.

wylo

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Anybody going on holiday in the next few weeks anywhere is there a good chance of travel being canceled?

Opinions?

I’m going to Dubai next week, having doubts about it but it seems well contained there.

CinemaGuy45

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Anybody going on holiday in the next few weeks anywhere is there a good chance of travel being canceled?

Opinions?

I’m booked to go to Greece in May.

BanditLuke

WHO are absolutely woeful. These last few weeks are an example of why they should be disbanded or restructed.

tara73

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Denial is our biggest problem, people should start now to take preconditions instead of later

Agree. but what to do? I guess avoiding public transport comletely, not shaking hands anymore with anybody (easy excuse here saying you have a bad cold) and avoiding events/places with many people in close contact. bit miserable life though...

Gynoid

Stheno wrote: »

There are none so blind as those who cannot see tbh

I don't get your meaning?

Stheno

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Not according to their son on the BBC last night. They are in hospital but not 'in a bad way'.

He did say his father was very I'll, unable to eat and needing a wheelchair to move about

ThePopehimself

Corkgirl18 wrote: »

Thanks for the replies all.



We're supposed to be bringing 80 school kids with us so won't be able to wait unfortunately. I'm guessing we're not going to end up going at this stage

Cancel.

gozunda

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Urban legend
People are dying in theirs 30s too, as for the underlying condition, that means anything including a normal flue that has affected your immune system. You don't have to be an elderly on death doorstep to be at risk

Agreed from what has been released - it can affect a wide range of age groups.

On the immune system - one expert was recommending the flu jab for anyone who has not yet had it. Not that the flu vaccine provides any protection against the Corona virus (it doesn't) rather it evens out the odds of getting hit with flu whilst the corona infection is prevalent.

That and some multi vitamins with vitamin D and zinc to make sure vitamin levels are adequate

Stheno

Gynoid wrote: »

I don't get your meaning?

Exactly my point tbh

Nijmegen

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Italy lived in a bubble until 3 days ago, they said the virus wasn't there and the risk to get it was 0%
Denial is our biggest problem, people should start now to take preconditions instead of later

I note a rush to the shops and all the ensuing last minute panic that entails. They haven’t been able to identify patient zero either, apparently their suspect was clean. But yeah read this thread and all the back and forth, “oh you fools stocking up!” If Italy and South Korea can get fast moving cases, so can Ireland or anywhere else. Personally I don’t fancy trying to prepare at that point. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/italy-draconian-measures-effort-halt-coronavirus-outbreak-spread

Mic 1972

tara73 wrote: »

Agree. but what to do? I guess avoiding public transport comletely, not shaking hands anymore with anybody (easy excuse here saying you have a bad cold) and avoiding events/places with many people in close contact. bit miserable life though...

Avoiding people when you have a cold/flue and you are contagious would be a good starting point. In fact, it would be the decent thing to do regardless of covid.

cnocbui

wakka12 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231530105794682882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1231530105794682882&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Ff881sf%3Fresponsive%3Dtrue%26is_nightmode%3Dfalse
Israel seems by far the most determined country in the world to not have an epidemic

Well we already knew that from watching World War Z.

Gynoid

Stheno wrote: »

Exactly my point tbh

Oh Jeez, some sort of mystery man who speaks in riddles. If you mean I should put them on ignore they are multiple, and some I otherwise very much like, so it would be easier if all those people who feel like lambasting Grace would just put her on ignore.

Nijmegen

Weird the way the outbreak in Italy is so spread across a load of little villages. Another super spreader, on holiday? Shoutout to all those previous here saying “we have a low population density, be grand in the countryside!”

CinemaGuy45

Gynoid wrote: »

Oh Jeez, some sort of mystery man who speaks in riddles. If you mean I should put them on ignore they are multiple, and some I otherwise very much like, so it would be easier if all those people who feel like lambasting Grace would just out her on ignore.

Could never stand outrage merchants who speak in riddles either they are just looking for attention.

cnocbui

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I’m booked to go to Greece in May.

Warmer, might have less contagion risk than Ireland by that point. Just hold your breath while in airports. I'd probably go if you are not in the high risk category

Mic 1972

Nijmegen wrote: »

Weird the way the outbreak in Italy is so spread across a load of little villages. Another super spreader, on holiday?

it's normal spreading from different sources as you would expect when a contagion has taken off

Only the small villages are being tested at the moment because there are confirmed cases there. If they did a mass test in Milan the numbers would rise

CinemaGuy45

cnocbui wrote: »

Warmer, might have less contagion risk than Ireland by that point. Just hold your breath while in airports. I'd probably go if you are not in the high risk category

And on the flight.

I am not worried about my destination so much as the flight and the airports.

Mic 1972

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Avoiding people when you have a cold/flue and you are contagious would be a good starting point. In fact, it would be the decent thing to do regardless of covid.

I mentioned weeks ago that the HSE should have been running ad campaigns before the start of the flu seasons. Show people how to wash their hands correctly, sneezing or coughing into a tissue, etc.

A decent ad campaign is is better than the trolley crisis every year. Not saying it will eradicate the trolley issue but it wouldn’t make it worse.

cnocbui

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

And on the flight.

I am not worried about my destination so much as the flight and the airports.

Planes have hospital grade air filtration so the main risk is sitting close to an infected person. I think airport toilets and surfaces are the big worry. My kids have gotten norovirus a couple of times when traveling. Not fun. F'n Heathrow!

gozunda

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Sorry I must have missed that?

Yeah me too ...

Probably need to put the glasses on there I think. That and a very tiny violin ...

Mic 1972

cnocbui wrote: »

Planes have hospital grade air filtration so the main risk is sitting close to an infected person.

Diamond Princess says hi

volchitsa

Nijmegen wrote: »

Weird the way the outbreak in Italy is so spread across a load of little villages. Another super spreader, on holiday? Shoutout to all those previous here saying “we have a low population density, be grand in the countryside!”

The guy ran a local marathon apparently before he got sick. Perfect for spreading the virus to as many people and places as possible.

tara73

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Avoiding people when you have a cold/flue and you are contagious would be a good starting point. In fact, it would be the decent thing to do regardless of covid.

I meant if you don't have any cold/flu, but don't want to shake hands, to not being impolite mentioning having the cold/flu as an excuse...:)

cnocbui

cnocbui wrote: »

Warmer, might have less contagion risk than Ireland by that point. Just hold your breath while in airports. I'd probably go if you are not in the high risk category

Well if there is any truth in taking liquorice then I’ll just start on the sambuca once I’ve parked the car up

Mic 1972

tara73 wrote: »

I meant if you don't have any cold/flu, but don't want to shake hands, to not being impolite mentioning having the cold/flu as an excuse...:)

I think you are perfectly right to do so, we can worry about ethiquette another time

CinemaGuy45

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Well if there is any truth in taking liquorice then I’ll just start on the sambuca once I’ve parked the car up

Best to have a few before that to steady up your nerves for the drive.:D

BanditLuke

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

And on the flight.

I am not worried about my destination so much as the flight and the airports.

Personally i wouldn't be getting on any airplanes from this point onward until more is known.Not that worried about myself health wide im A1 but wouldn't want to spread it to my elderly parents.

TomSweeney

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Anybody going on holiday in the next few weeks anywhere is there a good chance of travel being canceled?

Opinions?

I am worried about a trip to Norway in July, mind you if at that stage it needs to be cancelled I'll have a lot more to worry about - like not f*cking dying!!!

CinemaGuy45

BanditLuke wrote: »

Personally i wouldn't be getting on any airplanes from this point onward until more is known.Not that worried about myself health wide im A1 but wouldn't want to spread it to my elderly parents.

Mmmmm.

Yes.

Stheno

BanditLuke wrote: »

Personally i wouldn't be getting on any airplanes from this point onward until more is known.Not that worried about myself health wide im A1 but wouldn't want to spread it to my elderly parents.

The company I work for has had a global travel ban in place for weeks now

BanditLuke

BanditLuke wrote: »

Personally i wouldn't be getting on any airplanes from this point onward until more is known.Not that worried about myself health wide im A1 but wouldn't want to spread it to my elderly parents.

That would be my worry too. I am a carer for my dad who has a tracheotomy.

I have annual travel insurance so will wait and see.

CinemaGuy45

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

That would be my worry too. I am a carer for my dad who has a tracheotomy.

I have annual travel insurance so will wait and see.

Booked with Ryanair got their insurance did not read the policy.

BanditLuke

Stheno wrote: »

The company I work for has had a global travel ban in place for weeks now

Yeah our place doesn't and it hasn't even been discussed. Luckily i don't do travel for work only throughout Ireland but others are at the airports every other day.

I must admit. The 38 year dying in Italy is a bit concerning. Was healthy. Current worry level would be 4\10.