new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Jimmy Garlic

mouthful wrote: »

I understood there were no direct flights to China from here, am I wrong??

Does it really matter if the flights are direct or not? We all know that many Chinese people who reside in Ireland travelled home for Chinese New year and have since returned. My local Chinese takeaway was closed because the family who run it went home for New Year, it's open again for a while now.

It doesn't matter in any case. The window where this could have been contained in China is gone. It could come from anywhere now. One thing is for sure when, not if , it comes here the Hse won't be able to cope with it.

Duke of Url

Blud wrote: »

And this is in Venice, you say?

There seems to be a Venice Carnival party in San Marco square at the moment.

They didn’t get the memo.

ArmaniJeanss

Duke of Url wrote: »

I wouldn’t speak too soon..

Meanwhile is Venice

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/italia/veneto/venezia/piazza-san-marco.html

Here's a street-level cam close by at the Rialto Bridge.
https://www.skylinewebcams.com/it/webcam/italia/veneto/venezia/rialto-canal-grande.html
Doesn't seem any mass panic in Venice anyway.
About 3%-4% of people wearing masks I'd reckon (no-one criticise my statistics plz :P)

Just had a nosey on the dept of foreign affairs websites for here and the UK.


The UK was updated today and lists all eventualities including the rugby.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/italy

In comparison - Irish site updated on the18th and Simon told us all was grand and we’d given the WHO a few bob. As far as the foreign office is aware, there are still Irish citizens on the diamond princess. Should someone tell him they are in the Wirral?

https://www.dfa.ie/news-and-media/press-releases/statement-by-the-tanaiste-on-the-consular-aspects-of-the-covid-19-coronavirus-outbreak.php

Perhaps beasty can send them an email in bold writing

igCorcaigh

Odd, I thought we would be here a few weeks ago, but now it seems to be reaching the "tipping point".

Maybe it's because of the long incubation period.

A pandemic seems unstoppable now.

igCorcaigh

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Just had a nosey on the dept of foreign affairs websites for here and the UK.


The UK was updated today and lists all eventualities including the rugby.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/italy

In comparison - Irish site updated on the18th and Simon told us all was grand and we’d given the WHO a few bob. As far as the foreign office is aware, there are still Irish citizens on the diamond princess. Should someone tell him they are in the Wirral?

https://www.dfa.ie/news-and-media/press-releases/statement-by-the-tanaiste-on-the-consular-aspects-of-the-covid-19-coronavirus-outbreak.php

Perhaps beasty can send them an email in bold writing

Doesn't provide much faith, does it. Clowns.

igCorcaigh

These face masks are stupid.
They don't work and only add to the drama.

Just stay at home if you feel unwell.

4068ac1elhodqr

Duke of Url wrote: »

There seems to be a Venice Carnival party in San Marco square at the moment.
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The last days of the Venice Carnival have been disrupted. The AAP said it was now cancelled, must have got the fax just in time.

Duke of Url

igCorcaigh wrote: »

These face masks are stupid.
They don't work and only add to the drama.

Just stay at home if you feel unwell.

Yep. Maybe we can do an AMA with the first of us who tests positive.:P

MD1990

CFR much higher than 3% in Irana according to Campbell
Campbell says the Virus may have mutated to a more deadly disease in Iran



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02TwdiRUJTA

11:00 onwards

Duke of Url

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

The last days of the Venice Carnival have been disrupted. The AAP said it was now cancelled, must have got the fax just in time.

Maybe someone should pull out the plug to that light show in the square

4068ac1elhodqr

Just back from a LiDL big-shop before the wu-flu-plague arrives upon these shores.

Over in Casalpusterlengo (ITA), their Lidl grocery store was only allowing shoppers to enter in groups of 40. Police were called to the make sure there wasn't a rush on their Newgate CornFlakes, which taste much the same as the Kellogs (other varieties are available). The best bet would be their tinned chicken soup, costs the same as a pint of the black stuff, for about a dozen.

igCorcaigh

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Doesn't provide much faith, does it. Clowns.

No, it doesn’t. If there is one place that should be working 24/7 it’s the foreign office. Even if it’s to direct to the HSE website or whatever. The uk website is in a completely different league.

And regardless of the lack of government it is the civil servants who run the show so where are they?

igCorcaigh

South Korea:

The city’s streets were eerily quiet, with stores and restaurants closed and stations, markets and shopping areas devoid of the usual foot traffic. The few people who dared to venture out were masked and wearing gloves.

Are we really going to do this in every location that has an outbreak?

At what point do we move beyond the containment stage?

Who (!) decides? The WHO? Governments?

Seamai

BanditLuke wrote: »

There should be a special place in hell for that sort. "I haven't missed a day off work in 10 years" should translate to " I come into work even when I'm sick because I don't care about other people "

We have a real Typhoid Mary in our place, last winter he came in with a really bad cough and cold and over the following 2 weeks most of the staff had to take time off, like you said, a special place in hell.

EltonJohn69

How long did it take to get a swine flu vaccine ? I rember that was all sorted quickly.....though I did catch it... worse flu of my life... could barely walk

Duke of Url

igCorcaigh wrote: »

South Korea:

The city’s streets were eerily quiet, with stores and restaurants closed and stations, markets and shopping areas devoid of the usual foot traffic. The few people who dared to venture out were masked and wearing gloves.

Are we really going to do this in every location that has an outbreak?

At what point do we move beyond the containment stage?

Who (!) decides? The WHO? Governments?

All I can say is Simon Harris is supposed to save us all.

Think about that for a moment.

all about the mane

MD1990 wrote: »

CFR much higher than 3% in Irana according to Campbell
Campbell says the Virus may have mutated to a more deadly disease in Iran



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02TwdiRUJTA

11:00 onwards

As if there isn’t enough hysteria on here....

CinemaGuy45

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

How long did it take to get a swine flu vaccine ? I rember that was all sorted quickly.....though I did catch it... worse flu of my life... could barely walk

That vaccine really helped you out then.:D

lemoncorona

Some of the patients in Lombardy diagnosed with COVID-19 have been in intensive care for up to two weeks before being diagnosed. This fact, combined with the rapid rate of new cases seems to indicate that the virus has been circulating in Italy for weeks without being detected among the general population - It's only showing up now because tests are being conducted.

All public events, sporting events, sports groups, schools & universities, cinemas etc in Lombardy have been prohibited but it looks like being too little too late. If that is the case here, I would be highly surprised if it's not the case in many other European countries...

CinemaGuy45

all about the mane wrote: »

As if there isn’t enough hysteria on here....

Where is the hysteria?

BanditLuke

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

No, it doesn’t. If there is one place that should be working 24/7 it’s the foreign office. Even if it’s to direct to the HSE website or whatever. The uk website is in a completely different league.

And regardless of the lack of government it is the civil servants who run the show so where are they?

Looking at their pensions and laughing?

That flight from Milan arrived at 7:45 They'll be just strolling into Dublin now with zero checks.

all about the mane

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Where is the hysteria?

^^

CinemaGuy45

all about the mane wrote: »

^^

That poster is just pointing our the lack of sensible checks in Dublin Airport.

givyjoe

all about the mane wrote: »

As if there isn’t enough hysteria on here....

Jesus wept, what hysreria? You do know there's an actual pandemic developing?

Spanish Eyes

I don't think it can or will be contained now, having jumped Continents as we speak.

Air travel being the one thing that may (will) spread it really.

olestoepoke

It's ok don't worry, Simon Harris will save us if the virus gets here.

EltonJohn69

We need global warming to do us a favour and start kicking in

CinemaGuy45

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I don't think it can or will be contained now, having jumped Continents as we speak.

Air travel being the one thing that may (will) spread it really.

Check the HSE website all is fine.:D

Itssoeasy

So am I right that the cases in Italy have no link to China which is why there is worry.

BanditLuke

all about the mane wrote: »

As if there isn’t enough hysteria on here....

Yeah because you know better than an actual guy who's job it is to know these things.

BanditLuke

olestoepoke wrote: »

It's ok don't worry, Simon Harris will save us if the virus gets here.

By blaming SF?

Itssoeasy

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So am I right that the cases in Italy have no link to China which is why there is worry.

I don’t think they know who started the spread there. I’d hazard a guess that when the first case is confirmed in Ireland, the poor lad or lass will not have had any contact with China either.

Spanish Eyes

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Check the HSE website all is fine.:D

To be honest Cinema Guy, I couldn't be ar$ed to do that, although I am sure your post was tongue in cheek given the efficiency of HSE in everything else.

But it is not confined to Ireland either. Flights are landing all over from everywhere. Nothing can be done. Sooner or later our country will have positive tests.

Sighs with abject raising of eyebrows now.

all about the mane

BanditLuke wrote: »

Yeah because you know better than an actual guy who's job it is to know these things.

An ‘actual guy’...fair enough

CinemaGuy45

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

To be honest Cinema Guy, I couldn't be ar$ed to do that, although I am sure your post was tongue in cheek given the efficiency of HSE in everything else.

But it is not confined to Ireland either. Flights are landing all over from everywhere. Nothing can be done. Sooner or later our country will have positive tests.

Sighs with abject raising of eyebrows now.

No you're right my post was tongue in cheek.

It's a pandemic now I think the only reason we have no confirmed cases here is because the HSE have the testing as well organised as their website.

Duke of Url

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I don’t think they know who started the spread there. I’d hazard a guess that when the first case is confirmed in Ireland, the poor lad or lass will not have had any contact with China either.

I’m not a betting man but I think the first case will show up in a Multinational here.

scotchy

Irish couple from the cruise ship are quarantined in the Wirral in UK.

Listening to the BBC news, sounds like they are from the south as opposed to NI. How come they weren’t brought home?

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Spanish Eyes

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

No you're right my post was tongue in cheek.

It's a pandemic now I think the only reason we have no confirmed cases here is because the HSE have the testing as well organised as their website.

LOL.

I think we just have to go live our lives without panic, and hope for the best.

We obviously will not be alone anyway.

cameramonkey

Duke of Url wrote: »

I’m not a betting man but I think the first case will show up in a Multinational here.

Aldi or Lidl?

CinemaGuy45

scotchy wrote: »

Irish couple from the cruise ship are quarantined in the Wirral in UK.

Listening to the BBC news, sounds like they are from the south as opposed to NI. How come they weren’t brought home?

.

If they were ISIS fighters the Government would send the jet for them.

fr336

So what defcon level are we at today folks?

CinemaGuy45

fr336 wrote: »

So what defcon level are we at today folks?

Yellow alert.

Brown alert on hold for now.

4068ac1elhodqr

Duke of Url wrote: »

I’m not a betting man but I think the first case will show up in a Multinational here.

There was something on the news a week or two ago, Indeed™ told 1,000 staff (Ire & Aus) to work from their PJ's (at home), as one visitor/consultant was in China, Singapore or somewhere before visiting Dub/Syd.

Heard somewhere that something like 90% of the bigger MNC's are non-nationals (another subject there for another day), imagine many might do a bit of air travel from month to month.

scotchy

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

If they were ISIS fighters the Government would send the jet for them.

I think the Government jet can be set up as a medi vac from what I remember.

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greenfield21

https://twitter.com/HayekAndKeynes/status/1231652842903089156

cnocbui

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

No, it doesn’t. If there is one place that should be working 24/7 it’s the foreign office. Even if it’s to direct to the HSE website or whatever. The uk website is in a completely different league.

And regardless of the lack of government it is the civil servants who run the show so where are they?

Working from home?

fr336

igCorcaigh wrote: »

These face masks are stupid.
They don't work and only add to the drama.

Just stay at home if you feel unwell.

Why are the police officers and all those in authority wearing masks if they don't work?

gozunda

Carol25 wrote: »

Public awareness is very poor in relation to this, people are still flying over and back to Northern Italy with no restrictions or awareness of what’s happening. I think this is a bad tactic to employ, and it will stoke panic and mistrust in the authorities. We need decisive action from the people in charge, not leaflets and out of date information on the HSE website.
1. Acting minister for health or director of the HSE needs to call a press conference and state what measures, if any people could take now. Eg, hygiene, hand washes, not going into work if you have information that you might have been exposed, etc, NOT to go into a crowded GP waiting room or A & E and what numbers to ring.
2. Update your website information!! Don’t keep passing the book to the WHO and European CDC which have so far proved to be utterly inadequate. Update travel information to pretty much all of Asia, Italy& Iran do it regularly to show you’re actually keeping a track of this threat & are acting efficiently.
3. Advise people to keep in touch with the news over the next few days. Develop an app or government information system to communicate to the public in areas that might become affected.
4. Set up temperature checks at Dublin airport, it will help slow spread a little and is not a pointless exercise. Time is what we need now, or the services here will be completely overwhelmed.

There could well be more cases of Coronavirus in Europe but perhaps Italy are testing more people now they're aware it is circulating.

Would he fek away off with your logic and common sense! Sure it'll be grand. The media have this one covered.

Spanish Eyes

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Yellow alert.

Brown alert on hold for now.

I do hope that yellow alert does not refer to our Chinese friends, but the brown alert is something else altogether. Would not be allowed at all because of the R word.

But I know what you mean :cool: