new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

babybuilder

In contact with a teacher in Milan. All schools closed. Major shutdown.

darjeeling

Lyanna Salty Toadstool wrote: »

How do we know though?

No knowledge or testing available until late December/Early January.

It was a particularly rampant dose, worse than a regular cold too. I know several people who were hospitalised with it.

It's possible, maybe not likely but certainly possible. This thing could already be around a long time but it was only noticed when it hit a highly populated region like China.

It might not have started there.

It is not possible, based on multiple independent lines of evidence.

Here are some:

All SARS-CoV-2 whole genome sequences isolated around the world show high similarity and can be traced back to a recent single origin estimated around Dec 2019, in China.

If the virus were already circulating here it would have been picked up at high levels in the tests done so far - >5k in the UK alone, with a handful of positives, all traceable to recent travel to China or contact with people who have recently travelled to China.

Meanwhile, regular flu surveillance in the UK and here *did* identify flu viruses in symptomatic people over the winter period.
There is extensive weekly reporting in both countries (indeed all developed nations) on which flu strains are circulating and how prevalent they are. What we had in December was flu.

ldy4mxonucwsq6

Austria has already suspended all trains in and out of Italy.

A big worry for anyone travelling abroad soon would be getting stuck in a lock down somewhere.

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TomSweeney wrote: »

Positives
Weather will gradually get warmer - hopefully it will slow it down ...
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This is true, but often it just moves to the Southern Hem, the Aussies catch their cold when it's gets sunny in Lapland, then switches back to the North for the following season.

The H1N1 is still kicking about and mutating slightly over in the States, this one might (hopefully not) be around for a decade or so.

pc7

Just came on to post the same, all trains now https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1231688863191617536?s=21

MastiffMrs

MastiffMrs wrote: »

I'm planning on getting some supplies in so was doing some research today. Is powdered milk available in Ireland? I'll need a substitute for milk that has a longer shelf life. Is soya milk as awful as it used to be?!!

I can’t see it on Tesco’s website but you can get it in Asda if you’re near Northern Ireland.

CinemaGuy45

pc7 wrote: »

Just came on to post the same, all trains now https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1231688863191617536?s=21

Serous question what about flights?

Edit I think this is where this sh*t starts to get real for those still in denial.

BanditLuke

Major move by Austria that. Has to be respected putting it's citizens first and foremost.

fr336

Saw a Twitter comment saying why no cases in India and someone said the virus can't transmit in temperatures over 24 degrees - wishful thinking?

Mic 1972

Italy was the first country to stop flights to/from China. The ban was in place already end of January causing controversy

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darjeeling wrote: »

It is not possible, based on multiple independent lines of evidence.

Agree, ever a komputer virus signature can usually be traced back to some hoodie in a basement of the red faction. Or to those other lads that like to use Ire PP's when flying about sticking their stux net into overseas chargepoints.

BanditLuke

fr336 wrote: »

Saw a Twitter comment saying why no cases in India and someone said the virus can't transmit in temperatures over 24 degrees - wishful thinking?

No idea but let's all hope that's true.

CinemaGuy45

fr336 wrote: »

Saw a Twitter comment saying why no cases in India and someone said the virus can't transmit in temperatures over 24 degrees - wishful thinking?

I once saw a Twitter post saying Elvis was abducted by Aliens.

pc7

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Serous question what about flights?

l.

Maybe not as easy to do? Likely locking out lots of your own citizens? Not sure of border set up, are they letting cars in? Is there border checks?

tuxy

fr336 wrote: »

Saw a Twitter comment saying why no cases in India and someone said the virus can't transmit in temperatures over 24 degrees - wishful thinking?

What seems probable is that it can spread in just about any climite. But it will not last long in wamer climites.

fr336

I can't understand the big deal about closing borders and other major measures. If the economy is so fragile it can't not collapse for even a day or week, what does that tell us? And you know that thing called snow which grinds Ireland and UK to a halt for days on end? The economy doesn't implode after snow, does it. I just feel it's pure greed in today's world, any last penny to be made and it takes priority. Constant growth, growth, growth la la la...anyway that's for another thread.

fr336

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I once saw a Twitter post saying Elvis was abducted by Aliens.

People who think we're scaremongering in here really shouldn't search for this on Twitter..

One thing that won’t help here is that Irish people, especially the elderly, cling to using cash. I am puzzled
by it; even the young folk in Dundrum SC fumble for coins to pay for parking when a quick tap of the card would do.

lobbylad

scotchy wrote: »

I think the Government jet can be set up as a medi vac from what I remember.

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Yep, it doubles up as a medi-vac flight, used a lot by crumlin and temple st to bring sick kids over and back to UK for critical ops that aren't carried out here.

BanditLuke

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I once saw a Twitter post saying Elvis was abducted by Aliens.

Rubbish, everyone knows Elvis shot Kennedy and it was a revenge hit.

fr336

Deleted User wrote: »

One thing that won’t help here is that Irish people, especially the elderly, cling to using cash. I am puzzled
by it; even the young folk in Dundrum SC fumble for coins to pay for parking when a quick tap of the card would do.

I was always dead against contactless, thought it was less secure or something. Since this started I'm using contactless all the time - no PIN entries where other people have been. And cash only for taxi drivers - they can keep the change!

BanditLuke

Deleted User wrote: »

One thing that won’t help here is that Irish people, especially the elderly, cling to using cash. I am puzzled
by it; even the young folk in Dundrum SC fumble for coins to pay for parking when a quick tap of the card would do.

Cash is king and will remain king in my world.

TomSweeney

How long will schools in Milan be shut for ?
same for travel restrictions ? we talking weeks or months here ?

TomSweeney

fr336 wrote: »

People who think we're scaremongering in here really shouldn't search for this on Twitter..

Big time, I made the mistake of searching for #coronavirus on twitter yesterday - jesus the amount of ****e!!!


Was like reading excerpts from Stephen Kings The Stand

I come here as it's quite level headed - realistic but fair.

Like Dr. John Videos , facts don't care about feelings !

Nijmegen

TomSweeney wrote: »

How long will schools in Milan be shut for ?
same for travel restrictions ? we talking weeks or months here ?

If you get an answer, DM me and we’ll head down to PP, I’ll cut you in on my winnings.

BanditLuke

TomSweeney wrote: »

How long will schools in Milan be shut for ?
same for travel restrictions ? we talking weeks or months here ?

Still to early to say. If it goes full wuhan then possibly months, if contained then days possibly.

wakka12

This is just mad lads

France buys tens of millions of facial masks, plans to open 70 extra hospitals
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-la-france-achete-des-dizaines-de-millions-de-masques-23-02-2020-8265609.php

babybuilder

TomSweeney wrote: »

How long will schools in Milan be shut for ?
same for travel restrictions ? we talking weeks or months here ?

Not sure but I'd say a fortnight at a minimum or until they find the source of the infection. Vietnam has closed all schools until end of march according to Dr John Campbell.

tuxy

BanditLuke wrote: »

Still to early to say. If it goes full wuhan then possibly months, if contained then days possibly.

Would be the same if we were to close the ports like some want.
Could be no flights or ferries until summer time. Not sure how well that would work for an island nation like us.

fr336

wakka12 wrote: »

This is just mad lads

France buys tens of millions of facial masks, to open 70 new hospitals
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-la-france-achete-des-dizaines-de-millions-de-masques-23-02-2020-8265609.php

Thank you Wakka, for making a bad day 10 times worse lol

CinemaGuy45

wakka12 wrote: »

This is just mad lads

France buys tens of millions of facial masks, to open 70 new hospitals
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-la-france-achete-des-dizaines-de-millions-de-masques-23-02-2020-8265609.php

Yes and we were overreacting and scaring people.

fr336

Related but very random question - how much of an impact does being teetotal have on your immune system?

ldy4mxonucwsq6

TomSweeney wrote: »

How long will schools in Milan be shut for ?
same for travel restrictions ? we talking weeks or months here ?

Nobody knows, that's the scary thing.

Millions in Wuhan have been in lock down for a month now.

Its terrifying, how are they managing there for essentials and why aren't we hearing much from the region?

CinemaGuy45

fr336 wrote: »

Thank you Wakka, for making a bad day 10 times worse lol

If it makes you feel any better the HSE will be doing sweet FA.

wakka12

fr336 wrote: »

Related but very random question - how much of an impact does being teetotal have on your immune system?

It has a hugely positive benefit, alcohol greatly negatively impacts your immune system and its why the risk of many cancers increases so much with alcohol abuse

Spanish Eyes

Watch Air Travel. It is not going to change unless we refuse to board.

odyssey06

wakka12 wrote: »

This is just mad lads

France buys tens of millions of facial masks, plans to open 70 extra hospitals
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-la-france-achete-des-dizaines-de-millions-de-masques-23-02-2020-8265609.php

They must be hysterical!

Oh no wait this is what a capable country does to protect itself.

Call Me Jimmy

Lyanna Salty Toadstool wrote: »

Nobody knows, that's the scary thing.

Millions in Wuhan have been in lock down for a month now.

Its terrifying, how are they managing there for essentials and why aren't we hearing much from the region?

Because it's basically a disaster zone and the type of measures the chinese have to use there are not for public consumption.

Just over 800 posts to go and we will have a new thread.

Points to be discussed for the opening post?

1. The thread title should be capitalised.

2. Whoever of us gets the virus first has to pledge to keep posting or they forfeit their spam and beans they’ve stockpiled.

3. Some quick and easy recipes (including how to make bread) should be included.

Anything else?

joseywhales

Hanging out in Dubai airport for seven hours, I'd say 1% of people have masks. I saw one guy with an n95 mask, he must be gasping for breath wearing that all day.

Suddenly I'm very concious of how many people cough and sputter regularly, we need to ban cigarettes.

wakka12

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Just over 800 posts to go and we will have a new thread.

Points to be discussed for the opening post?

1. The thread title should be capitalised.

2. Whoever of us gets the virus first has to pledge to keep posting or they forfeit their spam and beans they’ve stockpiled.

3. Some quick and easy recipes (including how to make bread) should be included.

Anything else?

But mostly especially this :mad:

Jim_Hodge

fr336 wrote: »

I was always dead against contactless, thought it was less secure or something. Since this started I'm using contactless all the time - no PIN entries where other people have been. And cash only for taxi drivers - they can keep the change!

How do you manage door handles, bannister rails, escalator belts, café table tops, bus seats, shopping trollies, paper copies of reports/forms, door keypads, etc.?

dominatinMC

wakka12 wrote: »

This is just mad lads

France buys tens of millions of facial masks, plans to open 70 extra hospitals
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-la-france-achete-des-dizaines-de-millions-de-masques-23-02-2020-8265609.php

Jesus, 70 hospitals?! We can't even open one! (childrens hospital)

CinemaGuy45

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Just over 800 posts to go and we will have a new thread.

Points to be discussed for the opening post?

1. The thread title should be capitalised.

2. Whoever of us gets the virus first has to pledge to keep posting or they forfeit their spam and beans they’ve stockpiled.

3. Some quick and easy recipes (including how to make bread) should be included.

Anything else?

Plenty of spam on this thread already and we don't need anything that causes more farting either.

Fr_Dougal

wakka12 wrote: »

This is just mad lads

France buys tens of millions of facial masks, plans to open 70 extra hospitals
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-la-france-achete-des-dizaines-de-millions-de-masques-23-02-2020-8265609.php

That’s not quite what it said. An additional 70 hospitals will be able to look after patients.

If so far, 38 health facilities were able to accommodate possible patients, as of Monday, will add 70 facilities.

tuxy

dominatinMC wrote: »

Jesus, 70 hospitals?! We can't even open one! (childrens hospital)

The google translate says 70 health establishments not hospitals.

Can someone who can speak French confirm it's 70 hospitals?

wakka12

wakka12 wrote: »

But mostly especially this :mad:

I knew someone was driven nuts over it

Doctor Jimbob

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Just over 800 posts to go and we will have a new thread.

Points to be discussed for the opening post?

1. The thread title should be capitalised.

2. Whoever of us gets the virus first has to pledge to keep posting or they forfeit their spam and beans they’ve stockpiled.

3. Some quick and easy recipes (including how to make bread) should be included.

Anything else?

Has there been any research into the effect of hot whiskeys on the virus?

wakka12

dominatinMC wrote: »

Jesus, 70 hospitals?! We can't even open one! (childrens hospital)

I assume they are some kind 'reserve' hospitals though rather than new builds as they are opening them tomorrow

pc7

How could they staff so many new sites?