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Hector Savage

Just listened to RTE Sean O Rourke talking to some doctor - we're ok, Ireland has a plan if it gets here..

phew....

mods can we close the thread now ?

Irish Stones

BanditLuke wrote: »

Panic buying in Milan

https://twitter.com/Royal_Creme/status/1231640096094531587/photo/3

People are just crazy everyday down there, let alone now

Irish Stones

Lyanna Salty Toadstool wrote: »

I hope they can manage to contain it but who knows at this stage, it seems to be such an insidious virus.

Italian government is a bunch of clowns and they have no clue of what is going on and what to do next.
They tell us (Italian) not to panic, but they are in a clear state of panic themselves.

CinemaGuy45

Hector Savage wrote: »

Just listened to RTE Sean O Rourke talking to some doctor - we're ok, Ireland has a plan if it gets here..

phew....

mods can we close the thread now ?

Why are you scoffing?

This is RTE the national broadcaster they got some doctor or something he says Ireland has a plan something or nothing is this not good enough for you?

tara73

Deleted User wrote: »

We're allowed to post lies and bullshlt. Just take everything I say with a pinch of salt.

My thread about this fearmongering in feedback:

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058055420/1/#post112585000

Reply from an admin:




If boards.ie policy is to allow fake news in 2020, I will continue to make a mockery of it and the posters here doing it.

good lord, you should have along hard think about yourself. what age are you? yours is the behaviour of a puberscent 13 year old boy!

wylo

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Just for some perspective.

The situation seems to have really kicked into high gear in the last 24 to 48 hours.

Yes this thing is not the end of the world the death rate although disputed is pretty low.

However the economy as in the world economy is going to take a beating and the same morons who said there was nothing to worry about are going to be the first ones to go into full panic mode.

Lets not forget the actual infection rate is very low too, especially with effort applied. We tend to forget Hubei has 58 million people.

Kermit.de.frog

There is no reason for panic whatsoever.

It is an interesting story to follow and speculate on but I don't feel concerned myself.

CinemaGuy45

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

There is no reason for panic whatsoever.

It is an interesting story to follow and speculate on but I don't feel concerned myself.

Maybe who knows for sure yet but.

Facts don't care about feelings.;)

pc7

This, this, this, this all day long is why I’m worried, our hospitals are bursting at the seams as it is, we do not have the facilities for an increase in people on ventilators or ICU requirements here https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1231817781643038721?s=21

Kermit.de.frog

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Maybe who knows for sure yet but.

Facts don't care about feelings.;)

The facts support my feelings.

CinemaGuy45

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Why are you scoffing?

This is RTE the national broadcaster they got some doctor or something he says Ireland has a plan something or nothing is this not good enough for you?

cmac2009

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

There is no reason for panic whatsoever.

It is an interesting story to follow and speculate on but I don't feel concerned myself.

Tell that to the markets! This is going to have a enormous impact on economies around the world.

drunkmonkey

Hector Savage wrote: »

Just listened to RTE Sean O Rourke talking to some doctor - we're ok, Ireland has a plan if it gets here..

phew....

mods can we close the thread now ?

They have a plan alright, 20,000 dead here if it arrives going by the Sunday business post yesterday. We're are 96% capacity in ICU as it is and we've only a couple of proper oxygen ventelators. We're pretty much screwed was the theme of the report.

Strawberry Milkshake

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Awwww Googly is bored. He’s been told to stay away from work for weeks now.

Any update on the work situation?

Just an email every Friday saying another week off.

CinemaGuy45

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They have a plan alright, 20,000 dead here if it arrives going by the Sunday business post yesterday. We're are 96% capacity in ICU as it is and we've only a couple of proper oxygen ventelators. We're pretty much screwed was the theme of the report.

Kermit.de.frog

cmac2009 wrote: »

Tell that to the markets! This is going to have a enormous impact on economies around the world.

Invest in toilet roll companies and you'll be grand.

Candamir

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They have a plan alright, 20,000 dead here if it arrives going by the Sunday business post yesterday. We're are 96% capacity in ICU as it is and we've only a couple of proper oxygen ventelators. We're pretty much screwed was the theme of the report.

A couple of ‘proper oxygen ventilators’? How many of the other ones do we have?
(I didn’t see the business post yesterday, can you link/copy the article)

drunkmonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They have a plan alright, 20,000 dead here if it arrives going by the Sunday business post yesterday. We're are 96% capacity in ICU as it is and we've only a couple of proper oxygen ventelators. We're pretty much screwed was the theme of the report.

In 2017, the amount of people who died in Ireland was around 30000. So the SBP reckons that if coronavirus arrives in Ireland, that it would increase the death rate by 66%.

Is it if one case arrives in Ireland or is there a minimum number of cases to arrive to activate the guaranteed 20000 deaths?

Also, what is a "proper oxygen ventilator"??

Hector Savage

CinemaGuy45

Deleted User wrote: »

In 2017, the amount of people who died in Ireland was around 30000. So the SBP reckons that if coronavirus arrives in Ireland, that it would increase the death rate by 66%.

Is it if one case arrives in Ireland or is there a minimum number of cases to arrive to activate the guaranteed 20000 deaths?

Also, what is a "proper oxygen ventilator"??

Don't forget this whole thing started with one case.

One case becomes two and that becomes four eight and so on.

tara73

tara73 wrote: »

good lord, you should have along hard think about yourself. what age are you? yours is the behaviour of a puberscent 13 year old boy!

Hardly. Posting some nonsense and immediately pointing out that it's nonsense a few posts later is just a hungover attempt to bring attention to what posters are doing here, as hamfisted as it is.

CinemaGuy45

Deleted User wrote: »

Hardly. Posting some nonsense and immediately pointing out that it's nonsense a few posts later is just a hungover attempt to bring attention to what posters are doing here, as hamfisted as it is.

Do you mean drunk?

Space Dog

Just leaving this here...
https://twitter.com/peta/status/1230224794991419397?s=20

CinemaGuy45

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Do you mean drunk?

Half hungover, half drunk. It's easy to spend a Sunday drinking between the fight and the rugby when you can't go to work because of the virus.

whiskeyman

Deleted User wrote: »

In 2017, the amount of people who died in Ireland was around 30000. So the SBP reckons that if coronavirus arrives in Ireland, that it would increase the death rate by 66%.

Is it if one case arrives in Ireland or is there a minimum number of cases to arrive to activate the guaranteed 20000 deaths?

Those figures are based on their 'worst case scenario' where up to 1m people get infected, so based upon a 2% fatality rate.

CinemaGuy45

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Don't forget this whole thing started with one case.

One case becomes two and that becomes four eight and so on.

So what you are saying is that the coronavirus respects the two times table?

Unearthly

38 new cases in Italy. Total 193. Source BNO news

ohnonotgmail

Space Dog wrote: »

Just leaving this here...
https://twitter.com/peta/status/1230224794991419397?s=20

well of course PETA dont think it is a coincidence but they're nutters and best ignored. coronavirus is not a term specific to this virus. it describes a class of viruses not all of which came from animals.

whiskeyman

whiskeyman wrote: »

Those figures are based on their 'worst case scenario' where up to 1m people get infected, so based upon a 2% fatality rate.

Well, drunkmonkey seemed pretty definitive that if it arrived, then bam 20000 gone.

CinemaGuy45

Deleted User wrote: »

Half hungover, half drunk. It's easy to spend a Sunday drinking between the fight and the rugby when you can't go to work because of the virus.

Just as easy to spend a Sunday wacking off with porn or going for a walk in the park.

Indestructable

It seems the death toll in Iran is about 50, according to a health official there.

Dr. John looks to have reliable sources in Iran and he was saying it's very bleak there.

SeaBreezes

Deleted User wrote: »

Just an email every Friday saying another week off.

What about the town near you, was quarantine lifted yet?

odyssey06

whiskeyman wrote: »

Those figures are based on their 'worst case scenario' where up to 1m people get infected, so based upon a 2% fatality rate.

If 1 million people get infected in Ireland, I would expect that the fatality rate here will be higher as medical capacity to deal with severe cases will be overwhelmed.

Wanderer78

CinemaGuy45 wrote:

Just as easy to spend a Sunday wacking off with porn or going for a walk in the park.

A Sunday walk in the park wacking off, sounds like a plan

odyssey06

odyssey06 wrote: »

If 1 million people get infected in Ireland, I would expect that the fatality rate here will be higher as medical capacity to deal with severe cases will be overwhelmed.

So you are saying that the worst case scenario would actually be worse than the worst case scenario outlined in the SBP?

It's all getting inception-y.

SeaBreezes

SeaBreezes wrote: »

What about the town near you, was quarantine lifted yet?

Don't think so. Been following the news and haven't seen any word of it. If Vietnam's numbers are legit, it's remarkable they only got 16 cases with 15 recovered. Like they were building field hospitals for thousands at the start..

Schools look like they'll probably be closed till the end of March so I guess they're not taking many chances. They're looking at quarantining people flying from Japan and Korea.


Edit: I believe it's lifted. See it now.

Nijmegen

Speaking with a colleague from one of the affected regions of Italy. Family are getting briefed in great detail on how and what to clean and how to maintain separation to help prevent spread. Government handling food distribution and distribution of materials to people like cleaning solutions. Sounds really together, to be honest, even if delivering on the promises will obviously be a logistical challenge they seem to have it together at the beginning based on what I'm told. One does wonder if authorities here would have the wherewithal. Hopefully they can surprise us.

As for an outbreak here, what we've seen now in a few countries is a cluster of "super spreaders" going to the gym, to work, to their church. So really if one of them arrives in country for any reason, you're off at the races and you will get many cases. And once you have 50 or 100 cases you pretty much have to kick into quarantine mode, as with the incubation period you can guarantee you have a multiple of that waiting to become symptomatic and it's time to shut down.

ZX7R

pc7 wrote: »

This, this, this, this all day long is why I’m worried, our hospitals are bursting at the seams as it is, we do not have the facilities for an increase in people on ventilators or ICU requirements here https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1231817781643038721?s=21

This is the type of tweet that annoys me, kinda true but wrong at the same time, the make shift hospitals are only for use in moderate case's.
Severe are in one real hospital, all other cases of sivere illness were moved to other hospitals.
Does not take from the fact that we probably don't have enough respirators.

wellwhynot

Surely the government are ordering and purchasing more oxygen ventilators. If not, why not?

If people die due to lack of available care and the HSE being woefully unprepared their families can sue.

It will hit here soon. It is not a case of if but when. The people who tested negative so far I am assuming had connections to China. Are they being re-tested and quarantined? If not, why not?

Beasty

Deleted User wrote: »

We're allowed to post lies and bullshlt. Just take everything I say with a pinch of salt.

My thread about this fearmongering in feedback:

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058055420/1/#post112585000

Reply from an admin:




If boards.ie policy is to allow fake news in 2020, I will continue to make a mockery of it and the posters here doing it.

Do not post in this thread again

CinemaGuy45

odyssey06 wrote: »

If 1 million people get infected in Ireland, I would expect that the fatality rate here will be higher as medical capacity to deal with severe cases will be overwhelmed.

Nonsense the way you are going on you would think Irish hospitals were overcrowded with old people on trollies for days at a time or something.

We are a modern first world country.

Kermit.de.frog

At least 50 people have died in one city in Iran of coronavirus since Feb 13 according to the Guardian citing a regional news agency.

Irish Stones

Unearthly wrote: »

38 new cases in Italy. Total 193. Source BNO news

Total in excess of 200 now.

Nijmegen

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

At least 50 people have died in one city in Iran of coronavirus since Feb 13 according to the Guardian citing a regional news agency.

Iran feels like it has the secrecy of China without the capability to effectively mobilise once the cat is out of the bag. I'd say they were head in sanding it, and now have themselves a real problem. Holding an election when they're at 50 dead in one city is a big flashing red warning side of head in sand.

CinemaGuy45

Wanderer78 wrote: »

A Sunday walk in the park wacking off, sounds like a plan

Better than the plan he went with anyway.:D

MD1990

a big worry would nurses,doctors have the training to avoid getting the virus when seeing people with the Virus.

At least Singapore have got things under control. Hopefully March is warm but it probably wont be.= going by last year.

odyssey06

Deleted User wrote: »

So you are saying that the worst case scenario would actually be worse than the worst case scenario outlined in the SBP?
It's all getting inception-y.

The SBP states that Ireland would not have enough intensive care capacity to cope in the event of a large outbreak of coronavirus.

Therefore we should expect that the death rate isn't going to be constant, if we reach the point where the number of severe cases exceeds the intensive care capacity the % will spike.

The rest of the article is behind a paywall so if someone could enlighten us as to whether that was factored into their worst case scenario it would clarify things.

Wanderer78

MD1990 wrote:

At least Singapore have got things under control. Hopefully March is warm but it probably wont be.= going by last year.

Current indications, early March is gonna be cold

DrumSteve

I wonder what this thread will look like next year.

CinemaGuy45

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Current indications, early March is gonna be cold