new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Duke of Url

I’m more alarmed that we in Ireland have not been informed of a Contingency Plan when it reaches our shores.

I’m also alarmed that it seems that the International Community seems to have turned there backs on China.

fritzelly

The BBC interview with a Wuhan resident - Uncle dead, father is critical and mother and brother now have symptoms - cannot get any help in the hospital
Just one family - things like this make me believe the numbers are no way near the real thing

Quantum Erasure

PokeHerKing wrote: »

I'm about to watch outbreak

I'd recommend Contagion as well,

fritzelly

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I'd recommend Contagion as well,

And Resident Evil just in case...

wakka12

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Yes but the lower mortality rate combined with the high infection rate is the breeding ground for a mutation.

By the time Ireland gets sucked into the net this could be much more deadly.

Quite the pessimistic outlook!

saabsaab

fritzelly wrote: »

And Resident Evil just in case...

28 days later! Has Brendan Gleeson!

jimmynokia

Is there any update on the lad form Dublin Airport??

creditcarder

Duke of Url wrote: »

I’m more alarmed that we in Ireland have not been informed of a Contingency Plan when it reaches our shores.

I’m also alarmed that it seems that the International Community seems to have turned there backs on China.

Becuase of Chinese history, I imagine they would prefer half the population to die than invite a potential invader in to their country.

silverharp

we are sorted!!!

https://twitter.com/LokiJulianus/status/1224770837854724096

hmmm

fritzelly wrote: »

The BBC interview with a Wuhan resident - Uncle dead, father is critical and mother and brother now have symptoms - cannot get any help in the hospital
Just one family - things like this make me believe the numbers are no way near the real thing

There's very different figures coming from Wuhan, and outside Wuhan. In China as a whole, the figures they are reporting are much closer to the international experience of mostly mild illness, and relatively low mortality, if treatment can begin early.

Inside Wuhan the figures are much more worrying, and it's clear that they are overwhelmed and are only looking after the sickest. Building multiple temporary hospitals to hold the less sick looks like a good strategy, and one which (fingers crossed) indicates that they are getting some level of control after the initial panic.

VinLieger

jimmynokia wrote: »

Is there any update on the lad form Dublin Airport??

Yeah he came back negative, thank god considering they let the whole flight go home

khalessi

Have any of you thought about buying masks or gloves or goggles for when it does come?

Graces7

Duke of Url wrote: »

I’m more alarmed that we in Ireland have not been informed of a Contingency Plan when it reaches our shores.

I’m also alarmed that it seems that the International Community seems to have turned there backs on China.

There is a lot we can all and each do for ourselves in case this happens? Make sure you have stocks of medications, both prescription and any OTC … Same with food stocks. Basics. And the same for old folk; and fuel. The less you mix with people the better in any outbreak so staying home will help

Easy for me living out on an island , with no physical human contacts - but with no working immune system the safest of places and chosen deliberately.

Graces7

khalessi wrote: »

Have any of you thought about buying masks or gloves or goggles for when it does come?

I have masks always as no working immune system and gloves are surely a staple household item.

4068ac1elhodqr

SeaBreezes wrote: »

I understand it mutates quickly, and the Spanish flu eventually mutated into a less deadly virus. I'd be hoping it mutates into something not quite so deadly before it gets here.

The Spanish flu did mutate, but the bad news is that the 2nd wave caused the most damage. The 1st initial outbreak and the ending 3rd major mutation weren't that bad, just the 2nd wave.

Compared to a couple of weeks ago, it does now all seem surreal.

Anyway folks, hope for the best, prepare for the worst as they say.
I.e. Tinned soup x24 packs.

Also, a stock of long storage antioxidant and inflammatory foods, lemons, and good supply of VitC (with Zinc).

amascid

Suspected case isolated in St James Hospital according to Dublin Live.
https://t.co/RbXi0z8n3A?amp=1

4068ac1elhodqr

khalessi wrote: »

Have any of you thought about buying masks or gloves or goggles for when it does come?

Cost and time wise, the practical soloution may involve what the americanism known as the 'hack'.

e.g. DIY substitues involving a bit of creative improvisation to do a similar job.

givyjoe

creditcarder wrote: »

As I've said, you shouldn't be worried about getting it as the danger seems to be the lack of support rather than the disease. So, don't worry about getting it. You'll either get it and be treated, or not and be isolated to have a lower chance of getting it

I'm not worried about getting it as such, more the sh!t show of our health care system being over whelmed and god knows what else to follow.

fritzelly

amascid wrote: »

Suspected case isolated in St James Hospital according to Dublin Live.
https://t.co/RbXi0z8n3A?amp=1

Went to the doctors just to make sure he infected lots of other people - after telling everyone to self isolate and call the doctor

givyjoe

PokeHerKing wrote: »

I'm about to watch outbreak

Outbreak for the warm fuzzy ending, contagion for a bleak realistic simulation.

Stewball

I'm travelling to the Netherlands at the weekend - just wondering should I bring a face mask for the airport?

khalessi

THere should be proper guidelines issued for hospitals and schools in case of an outbreak here

Kermit.de.frog

The Department of Foreign Affairs advising Irish citizens to be ready to leave China.

In a change to its existing travel advice, the department says Irish people in China whose continued presence is not essential should “contact their travel agency or airlines regarding available routes out before any further restrictions may be imposed”.

Nonoperational

khalessi wrote: »

THere should be proper guidelines issued for hospitals and schools in case of an outbreak here

There certainly are guidelines circulated to all the medical staff of my hospital.

That probably doesn't fit with the narrative of this thread though.

ceadaoin.

Where do ireland send the samples to for testing?

fritzelly

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Where do ireland send the samples to for testing?

UCD

circadian

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Where do ireland send the samples to for testing?

UCD can return a result within a few hours.

saabsaab

amascid wrote: »

Suspected case isolated in St James Hospital according to Dublin Live.
https://t.co/RbXi0z8n3A?amp=1

If true his contacts and family should be isolated too. Why are we letting people in?

wakka12

khalessi wrote: »

THere should be proper guidelines issued for hospitals and schools in case of an outbreak here

UCD issued guidelines/tips/information to all students several days ago

Kermit.de.frog

saabsaab wrote: »

If true his contacts and family should be isolated too. Why are we letting people in?

You do realise this is Ireland and that Father Ted is a documentary, right?

khalessi

wakka12 wrote: »

UCD issued guidelines/tips/information to all students several days ago

Was thinking Dept of Ed or Health issued to primary secondary schools esp with families coming back from China after NY celebrations

wakka12

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health/china-virus-claims-second-life-off-mainland-macau-casinos-told-to-close-idUSKBN1ZY05A?utm_source=reddit.com
Third death outside of Mainland China. In Macua. Macua's famous casinos may close to halt the spread of the virus.
International mortality rate is actually almost the same as the original prediction now, at 1.7%, vs 2.1% original estimate.

s7ryf3925pivug

Stewball wrote: »

I'm travelling to the Netherlands at the weekend - just wondering should I bring a face mask for the airport?

A multinational near me has introduced an international travel ban because of coronavirus. Impressed by their responsible attitude.

I just wouldn't go. If I had to go I would get a mask.

hmmm

Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »

I just wouldn't go. If I had to go I would get a mask.

The science is showing that masks do very little, and if anything it encourages people to touch their faces more often to readjust them. The main benefit is when someone is sick as it stops them spreading.

As for not travelling anywhere for fear of a virus that is affecting a tiny number of people worldwide - that's just ridiculous.

bodhrandude

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health/china-virus-claims-second-life-off-mainland-macau-casinos-told-to-close-idUSKBN1ZY05A?utm_source=reddit.com
Third death outside of Mainland China. In Macua. Macua's famous casinos may close to halt the spread of the virus.
International mortality rate is actually almost the same as the original prediction now, at 1.7%, vs 2.1% original estimate.

News report says that's the second death, the 39 year old man from Hong Kong.

saabsaab

Stewball wrote: »

I'm travelling to the Netherlands at the weekend - just wondering should I bring a face mask for the airport?

No harm in a mask gloves and handgel. If nothing else it might keep people away from you!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7963137/A-Chinese-student-snuck-Australia-despite-coronavirus-ban-lying-immigration.html

Chinese students are avoiding the coronavirus travel ban and sneaking into Australia by LYING on their departure cards - and bragging about it once they clear customs

Martina1991

ceadaoin. wrote:

Where do ireland send the samples to for testing?

Specifically the National Virus Reference Laboratory - located at UCD

wakka12

bodhrandude wrote: »

News report says that's the second death, the 39 year old man from Hong Kong.

A man died in the Philippines also.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/02/world/asia/philippines-coronavirus-china.html
It was the first death outside of China.

4068ac1elhodqr

News from the redtops today say:
640 patients are waiting on trolleys at hospitals around the country – the highest figure since the all-time record high set last month.
(10 of those patients without beds are under 16, with 8 on trolleys in Temple Street Children’s University Hospital)

72 people are waiting for a bed at University Hospital Limerick.
64 at Cork University Hospital.
46 at St Vincent's Hospital in Dublin.
41 at University Hospital Galway.
38 at Mayo University Hospital.

If you're young and healthy and but suddenly coming down with the sneezes next month,
then a bottle of Bourbon, honey and lemon for starters. Then plenty of bottled water with occasional electrolytes might be the best bet.

bodhrandude

wakka12 wrote: »

A man died in the Philippines also.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/02/world/asia/philippines-coronavirus-china.html
It was the first death outside of China.

Where did you get the third death outside mainland China from, was checking Google there.

wakka12

bodhrandude wrote: »

Where did you get the third death outside mainland China from, was checking Google there.

The death in Macua, which I linked. The death in Hong Kong, which you know of. And the death in Pilippiness linked above. Makes 3?

wakka12

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/eywwx3/boy_8_becomes_the_thirteenth_coronavirus_victim/
A child in Australia was infected through h2h transmission. Several of these new h2h transmission in countries experience tropical and hot summer temperatures , such as Thailand and Singapore with numerous h2h transmission today, would imply the virus also can survive warm temperatures as well as cold

4068ac1elhodqr

If in the next 6wks, things go the way they're currently going, get these:

[2L plastic bottle, sharpie, stanley, stapler, elastic, duct tape, superglue and foamex]
N95's will be sold out, some improvisaion would be needed for sub 0.5micron filtration...

(from article on hackables):

Quantum Erasure

wakka12 wrote: »

The death in Macua, which I linked. The death in Hong Kong, which you know of. And the death in Pilippiness linked above. Makes 3?

that one you linked was hong kong,

bodhrandude

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

that one you linked was hong kong,

That's the Hong Kong death the one that occurred in Macua, Wakka thinks its the third death outside of mainland China. I googled third death and no results are showing.

Duke of Url

Ah sure it’s grand says the HSE spokesperson.....

A spokesperson for the HSE said: "Ireland has advanced plans in place as part of its comprehensive preparedness to deal with public health emergencies such as novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV). These plans have helped us to respond to previous incidents such as pandemic influenza, SARS and MERS.

"Ireland is well positioned to detect and respond to a case of the novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) that might arise here.

I notice they said a (singular) case of the novel Coronavirus that might arise here

wakka12

bodhrandude wrote: »

That's the Hong Kong death the one that occurred in Macua, Wakka thinks its the third death outside of mainland China. I googled third death and no results are showing.

Youre right, sorry my bad!!

Duke of Url

Time to put in my order for full body protection

bodhrandude

^^^^^^^^^
LOL