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Unearthly

3rd case in the UK now - Sky News

MadYaker

I’m sure there’ll be a few cases here but it’s not worth panicking about. We’ve no flights coming here directly from China which helps as a lot of the countries they would have to travel through are imposing restrictions or checkpoints in airports. I wish they would start in Dublin airport though.

bodhrandude

Unearthly wrote: »

3rd case in the UK now - Sky News

In Brighton.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/feb/06/coronavirus-live-updates-in-china-wuhan-coronaviruses-outbreak-death-toll-latest-update-news

pc7

MadYaker wrote: »

I’m sure there’ll be a few cases here but it’s not worth panicking about. We’ve no flights coming here directly from China which helps as a lot of the countries they would have to travel through are imposing restrictions or checkpoints in airports. I wish they would start in Dublin airport though.

We would have a large Asian community in Ireland both working and in Colleges that could have traveled through the various hubs to get here. I think its pretty inevitable we will have some cases.

car_radio19834

European stocks hit record highs. Seems not worried about the whole thing.

Graces7

Huge amount of info etc on rte; cannot post links on this machine but it is evocative reading.

VinLieger

Seriously considering not voting depending on what the results of the current 3 come in as

bodhrandude

Maybe I'm a panicking or moany michael but FFS the slowness of this diagnosis, If any of the Irish cases become confirmed there is trying to track the details of where they were, what port or airport they arrived at, what bus connection or rail connection did they take, what shops did they visit, did they go for a pint. All these implications too that could pass this H2H virus. Maybe I'm just unnecessarily worrying myself but the testing seems to be so goddam slow.

4068ac1elhodqr

Health officials are investigating an outbreak of a pneumonia like disease in Afghanistan which has killed 23 children under the age of five.
Didpress Agency reports the outbreak has affected two villages in the northeastern Badakhshan

Singapore is up to 30 confirmed cases.
Really once it get above 50 or 100 type numbers then it gets very, very difficult to control.

Couple of reports from China of rapid infections (<1min) from people standing beside infected folks, both without facemasks,
difficult to verify such claims unless there was sneezing and coughing (both aerosol, and droplet transfer risk).

laurah591

bodhrandude wrote: »

Maybe I'm a panicking or moany michael but FFS the slowness of this diagnosis, If any of the Irish cases become confirmed there is trying to track the details of where they were, what port or airport they arrived at, what bus connection or rail connection did they take, what shops did they visit, did they go for a pint. All these implications too that could pass this H2H virus. Maybe I'm just unnecessarily worrying myself but the testing seems to be so goddam slow.

Given that the HSE are not commenting on individual cases (unless confirmed) you would have to think the St llJames case is negative. Cork result due this evening

Of course this could be an incorrect assumption

bodhrandude

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

Health officials are investigating an outbreak of a pneumonia like disease in Afghanistan which has killed 23 children under the age of five.
Didpress Agency reports the outbreak has affected two villages in the northeastern Badakhshan

Singapore is up to 30 confirmed cases.
Really once it get above 50 or 100 type numbers then it gets very, very difficult to control.

Couple of reports from China of rapid infections (<1min) from people standing beside infected folks, both without facemasks,
difficult to verify such claims unless there was sneezing and coughing (both aerosol, and droplet transfer risk).

That could clash with Dr John's theory about the disease not affecting the young, but then it could be another virus totally unrelated.

Legacy Better Explosion

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

Health officials are investigating an outbreak of a pneumonia like disease in Afghanistan which has killed 23 children under the age of five.
Didpress Agency reports the outbreak has affected two villages in the northeastern Badakhshan

Do you have the link for that? ^
Very unusual for children to be affected by these viruses. That would be deeply concerning if it's the nCoV.

bodhrandude

bodhrandude wrote: »

That could clash with Dr John's theory about the disease not affecting the young, but then it could be another virus totally unrelated.

But it is affecting the young. Or does he just mean a lot less?

givyjoe

bodhrandude wrote: »

Maybe I'm a panicking or moany michael but FFS the slowness of this diagnosis, If any of the Irish cases become confirmed there is trying to track the details of where they were, what port or airport they arrived at, what bus connection or rail connection did they take, what shops did they visit, did they go for a pint. All these implications too that could pass this H2H virus. Maybe I'm just unnecessarily worrying myself but the testing seems to be so goddam slow.

They may have been tested quickly and came back negative, it's probably/hopefully just a case of the HSE just being incredibly slow with the communications.

We should ask Dr John to join our community here.

4068ac1elhodqr

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you have the link for that? ^

Just came in off a newsfeed from an agency there, could try searching:

https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Hot+Topics/China+Coronavirus+Outbreak?type=ln
Imagine anyone young or old could catch it. There was another story suggesting if it mutated quickly, it could be caught twice, that antibodies produced by the body would only be good for 14days.

bodhrandude

PROC have their own thread in the Langers Forum about this too, a possible source if Cork news comes early enough. http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245416&page=14

silverharp

is it right that 1/4 of people are getting pneumonia, I might have picked up the number wrong? A heady cold i'll get over but.....

Duke of Url

silverharp wrote: »

is it right that 1/4 of people are getting pneumonia, I might have picked up the number wrong? A heady cold i'll get over but.....

28,363
of which 3,863 (14%) in critical condition <

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I dont know if im right but pneumonia could be this number

bodhrandude

silverharp wrote: »

is it right that 1/4 of people are getting pneumonia, I might have picked up the number wrong? A heady cold i'll get over but.....

You have Coronavirus, seize him and quarantine him/her hahaha only kidding. :D:D

The cure is loads of Harp, silverharp. It will dilute that Corona right outta ya system.

Do ye think these masks would help stop it?

AdamD

VinLieger wrote: »

Seriously considering not voting depending on what the results of the current 3 come in as

You are seriously over reacting. Even if all 3 had it the likelihood of you having an issue as a result of going to vote is incredibly low

ceadaoin.

silverharp wrote: »

is it right that 1/4 of people are getting pneumonia, I might have picked up the number wrong? A heady cold i'll get over but.....

1/4 of people admitted to hospital. Many more will have it and not need treatment

s7ryf3925pivug

Deleted User wrote: »

Do ye think these masks would help stop it?

If someone infected is wearing the mask, it will stop them spreading it as much as it will stop most of the droplets from their breath travelling far.

Quantum Erasure

from BNO Desk twitter:
Singapore reports 2 new cases of coronavirus, including 1 person with no links to China or previous cases
They're still investigating, but it suggests there is local human-to-human transmission and at least 1 patient they haven't found yet


https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2000C7
The World Health Organization (WHO) has begun an investigation into three virus infections linked to an international business meeting in Singapore last month, -reuters

The cases linked to the meeting provide more evidence that the coronavirus is spreading through human-to-human contact outside China, which the WHO has said is deeply concerning and could signal a much larger outbreak.

The cases, in Malaysia and South Korea, have been linked to a 100-strong meeting in Singapore of staff from an as-yet-unnamed multinational sales firm, while one Chinese delegate was from the central city of Wuhan, where the virus originated.

silverharp

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

The cure is loads of Harp, silverharp. It will dilute that Corona right outta ya system.

diluted beer is a way to clear the bugs dodgy water? or I guess just drink Bud straight for the same effect :pac:

jam_mac_jam

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do ye think these masks would help stop it?

Not really for kids. Will reduce risk but not eliminate

bodhrandude

Chinese doctor Li Wenliang the first to warn about COV and who was detained by Chinese authorities has apparently just died of the illness, I can't find a link as yet. RIP Li Wenliang.

RIP

khalessi

In regards to masks I bought some as I'd rather have them not need them then need them and not have em. I also bought gloves and safety glasses. To be sure to be sure like

Yurt2

Not knowing the science of this, but is there a chance that the virus has had a further mutation within China?

wakka12

Deleted User wrote: »

Do ye think these masks would help stop it?

Think I heard that they are very ineffective if used improperly, which kids will.

Even in that picture above they dont look right, the masks look way too big for those kids faces I would have thought, looks like a huge gap either side of their cheeks for germs to get in.

fritzelly

Yurt! wrote: »

Not knowing the science of this, but is there a chance that the virus has had a further mutation within China?

Already reported a mutation was found

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1225428566931718144?s=21

Graces7

odyssey06 wrote: »

Quoting from that report:
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0206/1113470-coronavirus/
The city of 11 million is facing a "severe" lack of beds, said Hu Lishan, a senior official in Wuhan, noting that there were 8,182 patients admitted to 28 hospitals that have a total of 8,254 beds.

Ireland total number of hospital beds = 14,200.

If it broke out here to same extent that would mean we'd need 3000 bed capacity for the people requiring hospital treatment when we already have hundreds on trolleys.

Thanks I cannot quote links etc, and am abed and unwell..

khalessi

wakka12 wrote: »

Think I heard that they are very ineffective if used improperly, which kids will.

Even in that picture above they dont look right, the masks look way too big for those kids faces I would have thought, looks like a huge gap either side of their cheeks for germs to get in.

The masks they recommend for this is N95 but something that has a metal bridge on nose to tighten will work and children can learn how to deal with them. I had mone try em on and practise taking them off using only elastic so they dont touch material over face. Talk about ott lol

I did a reverse image search for some reason. Apparently those kids look like an airsoft gun.

wakka12

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1225428566931718144?s=21

What age is that guy? He looks very young

Carol25

ceadaoin. wrote: »

1/4 of people admitted to hospital. Many more will have it and not need treatment

And many more are hiding in their apartments and dying in them to avoid going to the newly built ‘hospital/quarantine’ zone.

wakka12

wakka12 wrote: »

What age is that guy? He looks very young

His ID has 1985? on it.

josip

The whistleblower being among the victims is convenient for the Chinese authorities.
A more suspicious boardsie than me would be suggesting an autopsy.

khalessi

josip wrote: »

The whistleblower being among the victims is convenient for the Chinese authorities.
A more suspicious boardsie than me would be suggesting an autopsy.

My thoughts too. Deliberately infected.

bodhrandude

35 years old, young enough, he must of got the full blown spiked version.

Interesting approach in Singapore.

Duke of Url

Im curious

To the people who normally order Chinese takeaways.

Has this put you off ordering a Chinese takeaway?

I usually got one on the weekends but I haven't ordered one since I found out about this virus.

The guys who owns the chinese takeaways near me is from Vietnam.

Timberrrrrrrr

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

The guys who owns the chinese takeaways near me is from Vietnam.

Mine has a scouse accent

Chris_Heilong

Duke of Url wrote: »

Im curious

To the people who normally order Chinese takeaways.

Has this put you off ordering a Chinese takeaway?

I usually got one on the weekends but I haven't ordered one since I found out about this virus.

Assuming not a troll, It is not a genetic thing, Also Chinese take away food is as Irish as it comes.

Chris_Heilong

Deleted User wrote: »

Interesting approach in Singapore.

Considering the 14 day incubation period I think that is bad advice, It can become contagious before the victim feels the effects.