new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

creditcarder

wakka12 wrote: »

The infected British person is belived to have contracted it in Singapore.

Ethnicity?

Wibbs

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Just told my mate I'm buying some surgical masks. He was looked at me as if I was insane. Completely in the "Ah sure it will never hit here bracket".

All the data I've seen is frightening.

I've a couple of Warsaw pact NBC gas masks knocking about. One has spare filters sealed and only a few years old IIRC. No virus is getting through that. Sorted. Well... maybe not. Large chance of getting my collar felt by the Guards if I went into a shop wearing one. :eek:

Widdershins

Also reminds me of the Fever Hospitals in WW2.

So, what's the general consensus ...is something being witheld by China, from the media?

BorneTobyWilde

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/06/asia/li-wenliang-coronavirus-whistleblower-doctor-dies-intl/index.html

Still a live and kicking according to CNN

Fr_Dougal

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Just told my mate I'm buying some surgical masks. He was looked at me as if I was insane. Completely in the "Ah sure it will never hit here bracket".

All the data I've seen is frightening.

Good luck with that, surgical masks have been sold out for quite some time, you’ll find half masks alright.

I’ve ran a few masks on Amazon through camelcamelcamel, some amount of price gouging.

We probably won’t need masks in Ireland, honestly can’t see it getting that bad.

igCorcaigh

Widdershins wrote: »

Also reminds me of the Fever Hospitals in WW2.

So, what's the general consensus ...is something being witheld by China, from the media?

Yeah, I'd like to know this too, but I'm not willing to give much faith on the rumours going around.

China has seemed to have learned from its mishandling of the SARS epidemic. The WHO seem to be happy with the communication.

ceadaoin.

Widdershins wrote: »

Also reminds me of the Fever Hospitals in WW2.

So, what's the general consensus ...is something being witheld by China, from the media?

I dont think that it's any more serious than the rates we are seeing tbh, maybe even less so. It just that they dropped the ball at the beginning of this outbreak and allowed it to spread a lot further than it would have if they hadn't tried to cover it up. Now they are doing whatever they can to try and stop it, even things that we would consider criminal, because the economy and by extension that of most of the rest of the world is ****ed. Production being halted by many top companies like apple, Hyundai, tesla etc is a big deal

Timberrrrrrrr

I have 3 of these, if things start to go south they will be taken out and charged up

https://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/weltek-navitek-s4-air-fed-auto-welding-helmet/?utm_source=google_shopping&gclid=CjwKCAiAj-_xBRBjEiwAmRbqYtDxd5ka2zM0W6KadCjE44JLU4U_Fo50vBfWnxDXU0mayL5UzGGpbRoCcq4QAvD_BwE

igCorcaigh

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Yeah, I'd like to know this too, but I'm not willing to give much faith on the rumours going around.

China has seemed to have learned from its mishandling of the SARS epidemic. The WHO seem to be happy with the communication.

Having said that, there have been two odd stories out today.

Firstly, the point about communications between UK and China.

Also, this whistle-blower doc who died or didn't die.

So much uncertainty, big test of international communication.

I also made a comment earlier about how shutting down travel with China could impact on the global supply chain, this event being a test of global integration.

A lot of the essential drugs we use for clinical care, come from... China.

Never mind the economic side effects.
I know that stocks boomed today after taking an initial hit, but let that never be a measure.

Fr_Dougal

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I have 3 of these, if things start to go south they will be taken out and charged up

https://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/weltek-navitek-s4-air-fed-auto-welding-helmet/?utm_source=google_shopping&gclid=CjwKCAiAj-_xBRBjEiwAmRbqYtDxd5ka2zM0W6KadCjE44JLU4U_Fo50vBfWnxDXU0mayL5UzGGpbRoCcq4QAvD_BwE

You bastard! You’re going to weld us into our homes!

Stark

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/06/asia/li-wenliang-coronavirus-whistleblower-doctor-dies-intl/index.html

Still a live and kicking according to CNN

Dead again according to the latest update

BorneTobyWilde

Stark wrote: »

Dead again according to the latest update

SO it's a Zombie virus, worse than we thought.

Wibbs

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You bastard! You’re going to weld us into our homes!

Though that setup would protect you way more effectively than some paper type facemask. If this does go full poo hitting the propeller other options outside the box would be military surplus gas masks(post 90's, so no asbestos) and smoke hoods. Both would be cheap, less than 20-30 quid. And you have it left over for halloween.

Dubh Geannain

How are Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong looking numbers wise?

wakka12

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

They’re beds.

Indeed...rather I was referring to the sheer number of them

fritzelly

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

How are Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong looking numbers wise?

Update in 2 hours or so

https://news.qq.com//zt2020/page/feiyan.htm?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf#news

Kermit.de.frog

Stark wrote: »

Dead again according to the latest update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGb_nQZrvFU

creditcarder

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/06/asia/li-wenliang-coronavirus-whistleblower-doctor-dies-intl/index.html

Still a live and kicking according to CNN

Hmmmm, I wonder is he. Tbh, it is an important question as it might show how susceptible the Chinese government is to the people's 'grief and anger'

fritzelly

The number of deaths outside the epicenter is surprisingly low for the numbers infected - basically anyone over 80 is fecked but...I suppose they are still a ways behind Wuhan infections and deaths

Rvsmmnps

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

How are Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong looking numbers wise?

What I know, Cathay pacific will be in deep trouble if flights don't resume to normal schedule very soon. Hency why they told employees no pay for x3 weeks. Cebu pacific have lost over 100million in revenue. Klm and air France group have 10 wide body aircraft grounded loosing in the region of 100mill per day. All foreign chi a southern pilots have been let go, China easterns also. And I think all flights except one freight route between China and the US has stopped.

gozunda

Widdershins wrote: »

Also reminds me of the Fever Hospitals in WW2.

So, what's the general consensus ...is something being witheld by China, from the media?

Going by past history - I really dont have much confidence in any of the figures on the infection and mortality rates coming out of China. A lot of the Chinese goverment control is about citizens not causing the state embarrassment. I think that's going to return and bite them tbh.

creditcarder

sdanseo wrote: »

Edit: I'm a mupppet. The WHO logo in fact IS a snake.

Still think the channel has an agenda.

They have an agenda. Vivi's mother (Laowhy guy) was actualy part of the people's republic army, and Serpentza's wife is a communist doctor rich enough to afford good plastic surgery.

Dubh Geannain

fritzelly wrote: »

Update in 2 hours or so

https://news.qq.com//zt2020/page/feiyan.htm?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf#news

I see Taiwan is listed as a region and not an oversees country.

fritzelly

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

I see Taiwan is listed as a region and not an oversees country.

fritzelly

Death confirmed again

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1225537472584650753

Fr_Dougal

There are currently 30,811 confirmed cases worldwide, including 635 fatalities.

That’s the update.

silverharp

suggestion that Asians are more susceptible

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full

We also noticed that the only Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area.

riffmongous

Wibbs wrote: »

Though that setup would protect you way more effectively than some paper type facemask. If this does go full poo hitting the propeller other options outside the box would be military surplus gas masks(post 90's, so no asbestos) and smoke hoods. Both would be cheap, less than 20-30 quid. And you have it left over for halloween.

Not very comfortable to wear though A ffp3 mask (unless you have an odd shaped nose), a pair of goggles and disposable gloves are the best bet for something like this

fritzelly

silverharp wrote: »

suggestion that Asians are more susceptible

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full

Even if thats so mutations once it hits other races means it could come back again and won't care where you are from

macapaca

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

There are currently 30,811 confirmed cases worldwide, including 635 fatalities.

That’s the update.

..the trend over the last few nights is that the numbers will jump up again within an hour of when these numbers are posted......usually another 5-600 added...so lets see if that happens again tonight

Timberrrrrrrr

riffmongous wrote: »

Not very comfortable to wear though A ffp3 mask (unless you have an odd shaped nose), a pair of goggles and disposable gloves are the best bet for something like this

They actually are very comfortable, pump forces air into the mask causing negative pressure, also very cooling when working in hot weather.

Rhys Essien

Result is Negative from CUH in Cork.

https://twitter.com/echolivecork/status/1225538880939708417?s=21

wakka12

1,000 extra patients in Hubei now in serious and critical conditions in just one day, wonder how the hospitals manage with that

riffmongous

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

They actually are very comfortable, pump forces air into the mask causing negative pressure, also very cooling when working in hot weather.

While you are working I guess? But you are going to wear it long term and while you go around doing your daily life? I was actually referring to just gas masks anyway, they are enough to give you a literal pain in your neck

ChikiChiki

fritzelly wrote: »

Death confirmed again

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1225537472584650753

If I am correct that will be above 50000 by Sunday night based on the trend?

bodhrandude

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Result is Negative from CUH in Cork.

https://twitter.com/echolivecork/status/1225538880939708417?s=21

I hope they are going to run some more tests after that, considering one patient took four tests before getting a positive reading of the virus.

fritzelly

A 25% increase in serious/critical is very worrying after bringing in all the extra beds to leave the hospitals for the worse patients

Timberrrrrrrr

riffmongous wrote: »

While you are working I guess? But you are going to wear it long term and while you go around doing your daily life? I was actually referring to just gas masks anyway, they are enough to give you a literal pain in your neck

Obviously not indoors but if I had to go out shopping and the risks had risen then yeah I would happily wear it.

laurah591

wakka12 wrote: »

1,000 extra patients in Hubei now in serious and critical conditions in just one day, wonder how the hospitals manage with that

That's possibly just extra bed capacity coming on board following the new hospital which is allowing the hospitals to admit more serious/critical cases (as opposed to there being more)

Have people seen the new quarantine centre videos? These look horrific for people with mild symptoms

creditcarder

fritzelly wrote: »

Even if thats so mutations once it hits other races means it could come back again and won't care where you are from

Sounds like the beginning of an action movie...or the end

fritzelly

ChikiChiki wrote: »

If I am correct that will be above 50000 by Sunday night based on the trend?

Dunno but 40k for sure - the number of international cases seems to be increasing quite badly
See how the rest of the figures go in about an hour or so - the numbers outside the Wuhan area are really the ones to watch. If those numbers are rapidly rising it doesn't look good

ChikiChiki

Between the locusts in Africa, the fires in Oz and this it really is end of days stuff. Storm Claire on the way this weekend. Hope she behaves.

riffmongous

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Obviously not indoors but if I had to go out shopping and the risks had risen then yeah I would happily wear it.

Good luck with that

VinLieger

These numbers are still making no sense and its worrying me that's there's an International spike just over the horizon

macapaca

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Storm Claire on the way this weekend. Hope she behaves.

Claire is grand....her sister Ciara is a thundering bitch though

ardinn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaIjwvjBwqg

NIMAN

Baby brought to Altnagelvin Hospital in Derry tonight with symptoms.

Recently returned from Far East.

Perhaps just a standard illness or flu? i had heard earlier tonight but sometimes you hear a lot of nonsense on FB locally, but the Belfast Telegraph have picked it up.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/baby-tested-for-suspected-coronavirus-at-northern-ireland-hospital-38934516.html

laurah591

https://www.derryjournal.com/news/suspected-case-of-deadly-coronavirus-in-young-baby-at-altnagelvin-hospital-1-9226254

Here's another suspected case in Derry. Hopefully negative aswell

Same as above case.... article suggests they recently returned from Hong Kong

Kermit.de.frog

The Far East is a big place.

NIMAN

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The Far East is a big place.

Hong Kong then.