General Election TV debates

Hamsterchops

Mary Lou got a right grilling live on air this morning by Pat Kenny of all people, and predictably he quizzed her about the Conor Murphy affair + other IRA activity + Sinn Fein's poor record in the Norther Assembly (which they pulled down for three years), but leaving all the Provo stuff aside, she was really outed as a lightweight on economics, trying to defend her proposed tax rate, which sounds ludicrous.

She did try to waffle and to duck & dive, but she wasn't let off the hook, and I can honestly say, Provo murders aside, Sinn Fein are not ready to be the government of this State.

maccored

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Mary Lou got a right grilling live on air this morning by Pat Kenny of all people, and predictably he quizzed her about the Paul Murphy affair + other IRA activity + Sinn Fein's poor record in the Norther Assembly (which they pulled down for three years), but leaving all the Provo stuff aside, she was really outed as a lightweight on economics, trying to defend her proposed tax rate, which sounds ludicrous.

She did try to waffle and to duck & dive, but she wasn't let off the hook, and I can honestly say, Provo murders aside, Sinn Fein are not ready to be the government of this State.

the only thing of substance you said there was the tax rate sounded ludicrous. Ask Blanch152 about stormont. he/she will tell you how its completely a different set up than here (and blanch152 is correct on that)

Maybe you and blanch need to compare notes?

Idbatterim

tobsey wrote: »

The government did change the rules: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/building-height-restrictions-in-towns-and-cities-lifted-37604346.html

The councils in Dublin just didn't apply them, except for a couple of cases in the docklands.

Here we are in 2020. Dcc attempting to block residential development in the high court, that abp approved !!! Welcome to Ireland. And for anyone that think eoghan Murphy is the prime target for housing failure, let me introduce you to dcc lads!

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0205/1113383-sheriff-street-development/

Plumbthedepths

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Mary Lou got a right grilling live on air this morning by Pat Kenny of all people, and predictably he quizzed her about the Paul Murphy affair + other IRA activity + Sinn Fein's poor record in the Norther Assembly (which they pulled down for three years), but leaving all the Provo stuff aside, she was really outed as a lightweight on economics, trying to defend her proposed tax rate, which sounds ludicrous.

She did try to waffle and to duck & dive, but she wasn't let off the hook, and I can honestly say, Provo murders aside, Sinn Fein are not ready to be the government of this State.

They are only running 42 candidates so it's fairly obvious they will not be governing the state anytime soon.

Plumbthedepths

Idbatterim wrote: »

Here we are in 2020. Dcc attempting to block residential development in the high court, that abp approved !!! Welcome to Ireland. And for anyone that think eoghsn Murphy is the prime target for housing failure, let me introduce you to dcc lads!

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0205/1113383-sheriff-street-development/

The DCC lads are objecting because of the SDZ, which to be changed has to be opened to public consultation. Seems the DCC lads are doing their job . I assumed you read the link you posted.

votecounts

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Mary Lou got a right grilling live on air this morning by Pat Kenny of all people, and predictably he quizzed her about the Paul Murphy affair + other IRA activity + Sinn Fein's poor record in the Norther Assembly (which they pulled down for three years), but leaving all the Provo stuff aside, she was really outed as a lightweight on economics, trying to defend her proposed tax rate, which sounds ludicrous.

She did try to waffle and to duck & dive, but she wasn't let off the hook, and I can honestly say, Provo murders aside, Sinn Fein are not ready to be the government of this State.

So much respect for a murdered victim, you don't even know his name:(

realdanbreen

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Mary Lou got a right grilling live on air this morning by Pat Kenny of all people, and predictably he quizzed her about the Paul Murphy affair + other IRA activity + Sinn Fein's poor record in the Norther Assembly (which they pulled down for three years), but leaving all the Provo stuff aside, she was really outed as a lightweight on economics, trying to defend her proposed tax rate, which sounds ludicrous.

She did try to waffle and to duck & dive, but she wasn't let off the hook, and I can honestly say, Provo murders aside, Sinn Fein are not ready to be the government of this State.

The dogs on the street knew she was lightweight. She only got the leaders job because she was willing to do what she is ordered to do.

optogirl

votecounts wrote: »

So much respect for a murdered victim, you don't even know his name:(

for a nanosecond there I thought he was implying that MLMCD & Paul Murphy had an affair

Plumbthedepths

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Mary Lou got a right grilling live on air this morning by Pat Kenny of all people, and predictably he quizzed her about the Paul Murphy affair + other IRA activity + Sinn Fein's poor record in the Norther Assembly (which they pulled down for three years), but leaving all the Provo stuff aside, she was really outed as a lightweight on economics, trying to defend her proposed tax rate, which sounds ludicrous.

She did try to waffle and to duck & dive, but she wasn't let off the hook, and I can honestly say, Provo murders aside, Sinn Fein are not ready to be the government of this State.

Connor Murphy is the finance minister, Paul Quinn was the murdered young man. At least show the victim some respect by getting his name right. Jesus.
Pathetic point scoring.

FrancieBrady

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

SF weren't at 25% three weeks ago. The media and those on here claiming to be outraged at Paul Quinn's murder won't give a flying f**k after the polls close on Saturday.

Sadly, if you look at these hypocrites track records on other victim exploitation controversies, that is blatantly obvious and correct.

quokula

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Sadly, if you look at these hypocrites track records on other victim exploitation controversies, that is blatantly obvious and correct.

In the eyes of SF it seems that raising the concerns of victims is much worse than creating victims.

FrancieBrady

quokula wrote: »

In the eyes of SF it seems that raising the concerns of victims is much worse than creating victims.

If FF or FG were seriously interested in victims they would have done something to address the plight of ALL victims.

Can you point to anything they have done in the years since the GFA to address this?

Remember they are the very ones vested with the power to do something.

Zetor19

By the time the next election comes around I fully expect Miriam, Sean o R, plank Kenny and tubs etc etc to be manning the polling booths and helping out with the “counting”.

Idbatterim

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The DCC lads are objecting because of the SDZ, which to be changed has to be opened to public consultation. Seems the DCC lads are doing their job . I assumed you read the link you posted.

I did, the SDZ is madness, massively capping nonsensical heights! So you think they should apply the law, that is insane? and a massive part of this crisis?

Idbatterim

I am voting SF, FG are leading this change, I voted for them previously. You can expect the working masses to be robbed on property, given as good as no tax cuts and what? wait another nine years? LOL!

One new party to the centre right and the SF surge and this near century FFG farce, could come crashing down! I pray to god it does!

I say centre right as a lazy generalisation. I mean a party that will actually reward workers, you already have every other base here covered. It would actually give people a choice and stop some of the delusionment!

Plumbthedepths

Idbatterim wrote: »

I did, the SDZ is madness, massively capping nonsensical heights! So you think they should apply the law, that is insane? and a massive part of this crisis?

Of course they should apply the law, what are you proposing a wild west of build whatever the f**k you like?

Idbatterim

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Of course they should apply the law, what are you proposing a wild west of build whatever the f**k you like?

you think DCC creating much of this crisis is acceptable? do you think 6-7 floor buildings and ridiculous height caps imposed by DCC in the docklands is acceptable?

Plumbthedepths

Idbatterim wrote: »

I am voting SF, FG are leading this change, I voted for them previously. You can expect the working masses to be robbed on property, given as good as no tax cuts and what? wait another nine years? LOL!

One new party to the centre right and the SF surge and this near century FFG farce, could come crashing down! I pray to god it does!

I say centre right as a lazy generalisation. I mean a party that will actually reward workers, you already have every other base here covered. It would actually give people a choice and stop some of the delusionment!

Seriously lad, I doubt if anyone cares how you are voting . Early this week you were converted back to voting for FG now it's to SF. I know it's an anonymous forum but surely you would like to have some credibility?

JohnnyFlash

Idbatterim wrote: »

I am voting SF, FG are leading this change, I voted for them previously. You can expect the working masses to be robbed on property, given as good as no tax cuts and what? wait another nine years? LOL!

One new party to the centre right and the SF surge and this near century FFG farce, could come crashing down! I pray to god it does!

I say centre right as a lazy generalisation. I mean a party that will actually reward workers, you already have every other base here covered. It would actually give people a choice and stop some of the delusionment!

Dude, you’ve changed your mind on who you are voting for about 7000 times in the last year. Nobody cares at this stage.

Plumbthedepths

Idbatterim wrote: »

you think DCC creating much of this crisis is acceptable? do you think 6-7 floor buildings and ridiculous height caps imposed by DCC in the docklands is acceptable?

The link you supplied outlined their position, they are keeping within the agreed SDZ. It can be changed once it has undergone public consultation. Typical of the Irish attitude we make up rules and then decide f**k it we don't like them let's ignore them.

Idbatterim

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The link you supplied outlined their position, they are keeping within the agreed SDZ. It can be changed once it has undergone public consultation. Typical of the Irish attitude we make up rules and then decide f**k it we don't like them let's ignore them.

public consultation LOL? here is how it will go, local residents living in there single story cottages "no 5 floor high rise" here... But yes, wonder why we have a housing crisis! LOL! lets throw in several public consulations, with the local experts, cant wait to be discussing the exact same issues the next election... When SF will likely be able to win the most seats... i mean, lets hope FFG get to grips with this, but they wont, because of paralysis, endless public consultations and waffling...

Idbatterim

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Dude, you’ve changed your mind on who you are voting for about 7000 times in the last year. Nobody cares at this stage.

that is due to the fact that I dont think there is a clear cut answer to this farce. But if you wonder why FG voters are deflecting, well I am one of them and you have my reasons...

lawred2

Idbatterim wrote: »

you think DCC creating much of this crisis is acceptable? do you think 6-7 floor buildings and ridiculous height caps imposed by DCC in the docklands is acceptable?

those height limits have been exceeded multiple times in the Docklands

Hamsterchops

notfromhere wrote: »

Some **** on this thread about SF, I have been a SF supporter since the early 80s. and would never vote for any of the thugs that are FG or FF.

Since the early 80s right, ballot box in one hand, armalite in the other, which that means you would have supported Provisional IRA bombings, murders etc, right :mad:

Nothing to be proud of, that's for sure.

At least the young folk nowadays are voting for SF because they are mostly ignorant or indifferent to what went on before, but you have no excuse.

maccored

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Early 80s, ballot box in one hand, armalite in the other!

that was mid 80s.

Hamsterchops

maccored wrote: »

that was mid 80s.

82, 83, 84...

is_that_so

Idbatterim wrote: »

that is due to the fact that I dont think there is a clear cut answer to this farce. But if you wonder why FG voters are deflecting, well I am one of them and you have my reasons...

I thought it was the Greens earlier in the week?

Hamsterchops

votecounts wrote: »

So much respect for a murdered victim, you don't even know his name:(

I said Paul Murphy instead of Conor Murphy (who I was referring to), you sound like a Sinn Fein supporter, are you?

It's what you call a 'typo' which is hardly a crime.

Idbatterim

is_that_so wrote: »

I thought it was the Greens earlier in the week?

yeah I dont mention them though, as they arent the ones arousing the controversy....

Fr_Dougal

Idbatterim wrote: »

yeah I dont mention them though, as they arent the ones arousing the controversy....

Are you even registered to vote? 🤔