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General Election TV debates

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Another poor debate overall.
    Was that last contribution the best of it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭Asitis2019


    Lord god almighty


    Greta wannabes


  • Posts: 8,647 [Deleted User]


    Did hear her say that the climate crisis was mens fault?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭boardise


    Eoin O Broin others in SF may be earnest and well-informed on many issues but I think their financial estimates and costings are off the gable wall.
    I would actually be willing to see them in Government if only to see them collide with the constraints of fiscal reality -were it not a palpable risk to the welfare of the country . It could be a costly experiment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,323 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    CH3OH wrote: »
    Is she related to Greta?

    #metoo


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    We should all be ashamed of ourselfs... Hang our heads in shame.

    And off to bed with no supper.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,404 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Did hear her say that the climate crisis was mens fault?

    Well men were up there wittering about it she said...

    I've actually no idea what it is she was specifically upset about?

    Which bits did she disagree with?

    Pure soapboxing


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    boardise wrote: »
    Eoin O Broin others in SF may be earnest and well-informed on many issues but I think their financial estimates and costings are off the gable wall.
    I would actually be willing to see them in Government if only to see them collide with the constraints of fiscal reality -were it not a palpable risk to the welfare of the country . It could be a costly experiment.


    Maybe not as costly as the last two.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,134 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I didn't know that, but could have had a fair old guess! Whiff of the dogmatist off him.
    I think he was in some of the debates from what I remember, he still has same massive eyebrows but a new hairdo...some bravado and horrible attitude
    https://twitter.com/Roscomman/status/1224464198530478085?s=09


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,489 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Asitis2019 wrote: »
    Lord god almighty


    Greta wannabes

    If this election has showed us anything.. the likes of Greta and Trump and other rubbish people discuss online and bicker over are not issues real people talk about or are interested in.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 896 ✭✭✭shenanagans


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    We should all be ashamed of ourselfs... Hang our heads in shame.

    We're all in for a wake up call over next few years ....like it or not. Truth is people won't change behaviour unless they're made to by govt legislation/policy.

    This govt has done nothing for climate change....the next lot won't be able to turn a blind eye.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Did hear her say that the climate crisis was mens fault?
    No just the men on the panel. She might have said old and white but I know she wanted to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    We're all in for a wake up call over next few years ....like it or not. Truth is people won't change behaviour unless they're made to by govt legislation/policy.

    This govt has done nothing for climate change....the next lot won't be able to turn a blind eye.


    They'll ban wrapping fruit and veg in styrofoam and plastic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Suckit wrote: »
    Maybe not as costly as the last two.
    €18bn they want to spend, the other two not a lot less but more grounded. SF's money will come from taxing MNCs, despite the very big risk of that path.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,489 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    is_that_so wrote: »
    No just the men on the panel. She might have said old and white but I know she wanted to.

    You would have wet yourself if she said it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    TL17 wrote: »
    Jack Chambers has been excellent. Has CB still quivering in her boots. Great to see her get her come uppance.

    I didn't find Chinbers persuasive at all, I had to lower the volume down every time he came on. Shrieking at the top of your lungs makes for amusing TV but not a hope I'd ever vote for the guy because of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    TL17 wrote: »
    Jack Chambers has been excellent. Has CB still quivering in her boots. Great to see her get her come uppance.

    Bizarre take on it. He's blown up on twitter and shot up the trending list for exactly the opposite reason you think. Women aren't afraid of him, as much as he'd like them to not have their own opinions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    You would have wet yourself if she said it.
    Nah, I struggled to make head nor tail of what her point was. She should have started with the report and then the abuse after. It was a kitchen sink rant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,134 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Nah, I struggled to make head nor tail of what her point was. She should have started with the report and then the abuse after. It was a kitchen sink rant.
    Why was children and woman's rights lumped in with a climate change manifesto?
    He just got so aggressive right away...came across horrendously throughout.
    Hq clearly sent him out to be aggressive but he took it too far not a good look


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭snowgal


    Chambers an absolute unlikeable person,


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  • Registered Users Posts: 896 ✭✭✭shenanagans


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It was completely rambling and even Claire Byrne seemed bewildered by it. There is really no answer to it.

    He made the point very clearly.....it's the dept for Communications, Climate Action and Environment......so all their policies for those areas were in the manifesto. It was stupid of Claire to spend 5 minutes on it.

    He even pointed out Richard Burton's title.....Minister for Communications, Climate Action and Environment. These areas are put together ..... She looked silly focusing on such nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Calhoun wrote: »
    I know it's stupid right, it's almost like any example of bad behavior from a political party can be excused because we have examples of other political parties doing something else.

    I quoted the wrong post or got in after an edit.
    However, you'll note criticism of the governing party on policies generally leads to that because of the lack of defences. See all the SF threads and zero talking up FG? Also you might note most of the SF criticism is troubles/IRA based. That's why they don't tend to pick on the Greens or Labour or SD's as much. Obviously not FF, them being pals n' all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    He made the point very clearly.....it's the dept for Communications, Climate Action and Environment......so all their policies for those areas were in the manifesto. It was stupid of Claire to spend 5 minutes on it.

    He even pointed out Richard Burton's title.....Minister for Communications, Climate Action and Environment. These areas are put together ..... She looked silly focusing on such nonsense.
    Who's this? I am talking about the audience contributor at the end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    He made the point very clearly.....it's the dept for Communications, Climate Action and Environment......so all their policies for those areas were in the manifesto. It was stupid of Claire to spend 5 minutes on it.

    He even pointed out Richard Burton's title.....Minister for Communications, Climate Action and Environment. These areas are put together ..... She looked silly focusing on such nonsense.

    They both looked like a pair of thicks arguing over nonsense. Considering he's a candidate who is trying to persuade people to vote for him, I think he came off worse out of the encounter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 896 ✭✭✭shenanagans


    They both looked like a pair of thicks arguing over nonsense. Considering he's a candidate who is trying to persuade people to vote for him, I think he came off worse out of the encounter.

    I disagree. RTE invited people on to discuss climate....then launch an attack about a nonsense issue....wasting 5minutes on bullsh**

    I think he was spot-on calling her out on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭boardise


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It was completely rambling and even Claire Byrne seemed bewildered by it. There is really no answer to it.

    I thought CB started badly on this -she wasted a lot of time bickering over an irrelevancy -it didn't matter what was in the manifesto if it wasn't pertinent.
    JC answered the question first off and it should have been let go at that .
    CB came through to me as a bossy bully and I could understand JC's annoyance at being repeatedly forced to deal with a side issue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69,215 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Chambers is getting stick for his bullying bombastic manner. Not so much the content of what he said, which was not much really at the end of the day. Like most of them.

    Not a word of course to the Green lady about why the Greens are getting zero traction in the polls.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    snowgal wrote: »
    Chambers an absolute unlikeable person,
    He's in the same constituency as Leo. Both get in. It takes a type.


  • Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭orchard farm


    Suckit wrote: »
    Chanbers would slot in well in FG.

    Eh how about naaaa


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  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    I disagree. RTE invited people on to discuss climate....then launch an attack about a nonsense issue....wasting 5minutes on bullsh**

    I think he was spot-on calling her out on it.

    It wasn't as if it was a five minute Claire Byrne soliloquy. It was her throwing some chum into the water and Chambers taking the bait in a manner that made him look an utter fool. A simple clarification to dismiss the premise of the question would have sufficed instead of rambling on ad nauseam and making allusions to media bias that made him look like a complete crank.


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