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General Election TV debates

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    #2432
    ednwireland
    Registered Users Posts: 14,418 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    You know that little statelet up da road, where SF are in govt and which Leo states is in a worse position than the HSE.
    That place!

    you do know that they are sent to a private clinic which the hse pays for dont you ?

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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    #2433
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,867 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Leo really can't do sincerity. He just comes across as a posh out of touch eejit reading from a script prepared by others every time he speaks.


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    #2434
    Oscar Bravo
    Registered Users Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    MM going well, far better than the past 2 debates. MLM was better in the last 2 , just shouting tonight. Leo, to little to late and a bit flustered tonight.


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    #2435
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    A private section in the national children's hospital is vile


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    #2436
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 82,865 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Completely crooked having private facilities in the childrens hospital.


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    #2437
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Trizo wrote: »
    This is it exactly we have a consultant shortage on the one hand and SF want to tax those same people with a levy ...
    Consultants making far too much on their private clinics, v that's the problem.


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    #2438
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 40,045 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    MM doing well on health

    In that answer yeah but if he was that good on health as minister(along with other health minister) it wouldn’t be like it is now.


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    #2439
    gyppo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gyppo


    Ever here of the magic hour when you have a stroke, MI, etc... Get real


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    #2440
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,134 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    L1011 wrote: »
    SF REALLY don't want to bring up printers.
    What about banks selling off cash maxhines!?...


    oh yeah actually cash machines...err never mind


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    #2441
    SteelyDanJalapeno
    Registered Users Posts: 14,325 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    Anyone else only learning about Slaintecare for the 1st time tonight?
    Was started in 2018


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    #2442
    Ardent
    Registered Users Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭Ardent


    Michael Martin does not inspire confidence and coming across poorly from where I'm sitting.


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    #2443
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,134 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »
    Anyone else only learning about Slaintecare for the 1st time tonight?
    Was started in 2018
    It's been mentioned a fair bit in debates


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    #2444
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Polls my hole, to quote Mattie McGragth. The polls said Hillary would win the polls said brexit referendum would be defeated so bang on Mattie!

    Hillary did win the popular vote.


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    #2445
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    ednwireland wrote: »
    you do know that they are sent to a private clinic which the hse pays for dont you ?
    Oh yes. My wife availed of it.
    My taxes pay for it.


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    #2446
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    A lot of people dont want to believe it. Close 15 hospitals. Divert resources to the half dozen that are worthwhile. Health service improved. But, the people of Ballinasloe, Nenagh, Roscommon, etc wont hear of it, even though it is harmful to their health to keep them open. It is the single reason why no progress has been made in decades of this Angola.

    Utter bol*ocks from the resident aristocrat. Regional hospitals have saved countless lives.


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    #2447
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 82,865 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Giving free GP care results in people taking the ultra piss with visits.


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    #2448
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 40,045 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Twice a year ?


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    #2449
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    ricero wrote: »
    A private section in the national children's hospital is vile

    It's Disgusting

    Children ffs


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    #2450
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    In that answer yeah but if he was that good on health as minister(along with other health minister) it wouldn’t be like it is now.

    True

    Just on the debate tonight and overall Health is a big election issue and MM scored more points in that section than the other 2


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    #2451
    gu1nness
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭gu1nness


    Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mary Lou, we all know the ****ing problems in the country, the dogs on the street know....quit repeating them.

    Instead Mary Lou can you not give us one single ****ing thought through solution to any one of them, backed up with how you propose to finance same.

    Sick of ****ing listening to her.
    Sick of the three of them.
    God help our country.


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    #2452
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    MM is literally out here telling you you'll be broke trying to see a doctor, no hope, no nothing.


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    #2453
    gooch2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gooch2k9


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Giving free GP care results in people taking the ultra piss with visits.

    Entirely right. A middle ground between free and the current €50 is what is needed.


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    #2454
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 82,865 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    You should get 1 free GP visit a year for every €10k in tax you pay.


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    #2455
    Trizo
    Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Trizo


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Consultants making far too much on their private clinics, v that's the problem.

    Whatever the rights and wrongs of how much they earn ... that is how much they earn. You won’t attract them here with high tax and levies so we won’t fill the positions


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    #2456
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,340 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    So free GPs for everyone from Sinn Fein?

    You can't get a doctor to take you on in Dublin as things stand! And how are they going to pay for it?


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    #2457
    It wasnt me123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭It wasnt me123


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    A lot of people dont want to believe it. Close 15 hospitals. Divert resources to the half dozen that are worthwhile. Health service improved. But, the people of Ballinasloe, Nenagh, Roscommon, etc wont hear of it, even though it is harmful to their health to keep them open. It is the single reason why no progress has been made in decades of this Angola.

    That sounds great unless you are over 65 and living in rural Ireland with the nearest hospital an hour drive away - and you don’t drive!

    There is a dreadful amount of waste in the health service like crutches that can’t be reused etc. Let’s have accountability for providing a service - go to any outpatient appointment and you can be sitting there for hours, and nobody gives a ****e. No. Accountability for a ****ty service.


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    #2458
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Leo being a bit flustered makes him seem a bit more human. When he gets going he is pointed in his responses. MM is too interested in elbowing FG with his points, to take down Leo rather than putting out his stall. MLM is trying to talk about the problems rather than on solutions. I'd like her to retort to the responses put to her.


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    #2459
    C__MC
    Registered Users Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Martin and varadkar superior leaders in comparison mlmcd


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    #2460
    History Queen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭History Queen


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    A lot of people dont want to believe it. Close 15 hospitals. Divert resources to the half dozen that are worthwhile. Health service improved. But, the people of Ballinasloe, Nenagh, Roscommon, etc wont hear of it, even though it is harmful to their health to keep them open. It is the single reason why no progress has been made in decades of this Angola.


    Just to point out the people of Nenagh are at the mercy of the University Hospital Limerick in terms of A&E, a hospital consistently one of the three most over crowded in Ireland. I'd argue that having limited hospital services in Nenagh is hugely harmful to their health but not for the reasons you suggest.


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    #2461
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,867 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Leo really coming across as desperate in this speech


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