Leo has blood on his hands

dundalkfc10

After all the talk about how people consumimg drugs at the weekends have blood on their hands and are providing gangs with money thats bringing violence to our streets.

Surely Leo does the right thing and resign after admitting he has blood on his hands too?

is_that_so

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

After all the talk about how people consumimg drugs at the weekends have blood on their hands and are providing gangs with money thats bringing violence to our streets.

Surely Leo does the right thing and resign after admitting he has blood on his hands too?

He can't resign, not until there's a new Taoiseach.

tritium

I think he originally admitted it 12 or 13 years ago so not exactly news and everyone should have had eyes open on this when they voted.

Personally I’d prefer he used his position to put the little bastards in jail for a very long time rather than resign and let the cycle continue.

Wanderer78

Just fcuking legalise the stuff ffs

every person ever has blood on their hands so

certainly every national politician ever

most definitely every person who has ever served in govt

kinda meaningless statement when you think of it, really

One eyed Jack

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

After all the talk about how people consumimg drugs at the weekends have blood on their hands and are providing gangs with money thats bringing violence to our streets.

Surely Leo does the right thing and resign after admitting he has blood on his hands too?

That’s a weird way to spin what he said, but then I also don’t agree with the whole “blood on their hands” nonsense in the first place. He admitted to taking drugs years ago, it’s not news, and it signals virtues which many people are in favour of, as opposed to doing any harm to his reputation.

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Just fcuking legalise the stuff ffs

Just decriminalisation on it’s own won’t resolve any of the issues related to the sale, supply and use of illegal drugs.

Phoebas

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

After all the talk about how people consumimg drugs at the weekends have blood on their hands and are providing gangs with money thats bringing violence to our streets.

Surely Leo does the right thing and resign after admitting he has blood on his hands too?

Would you get out of town. Here's your take on it yesterday ;

dundalkfc10 wrote:

Any difference to people wearing clothes they know come from slave and often child labour?

TuringBot47

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Surely Leo does the right thing and resign after admitting he has blood on his hands too?

Does that mean Sinn Fein has to completely disband then ?
They've more blood on them than a menstruating slaughterhouse worker with a nosebleed.

Wanderer78

One eyed Jack wrote:

Just decriminalisation on it’s own won’t resolve any of the issues related to the sale, supply and use of illegal drugs.

Legalisation won't 'solve' drug related issues, as there's no solutions to its issues, it's just a different way of managing it

silver2020

If that's the case, then Mary-Lou and every single SF politician and hanger-on has buckets of blood seeping from every crevice of their bodies from the thousands of completely innocent men women and children murdered in cold blood by their IRA compatriots.

Does the OP really want to travel this route?

Sleeper12

tritium wrote:

Personally I’d prefer he used his position to put the little bastards in jail for a very long time rather than resign and let the cycle continue.

They tried that in 1995 or so with minimum 10 years sentences for drug offences. Judges refuse to follow up on this law unless the defendant is a drug boss. The average sentence for someone holding large amounts of drugs is 7 or 8 years with several suspended. This brings the average sentence to 4 years. They get 25 percent off this bringing time served to 3 years.

Judges across the board refuse to hand down longer sentences to non drug bosses.

Sleeper12

tritium wrote:

Personally I’d prefer he used his position to put the little bastards in jail for a very long time rather than resign and let the cycle continue.

They tried that in 1995 or so with minimum 10 years sentences for drug offences. Judges refuse to follow up on this law unless the defendant is a drug boss. The average sentence for someone holding large amounts of drugs is 7 or 8 years with several suspended. This brings the average sentence to 4 years. They get 25 percent off this bringing time served to 3 years.

Judges across the board refuse to hand down longer sentences to non drug bosses.

sbsquarepants

TuringBot47 wrote: »

They've more blood on them than a menstruating slaughterhouse worker with a nosebleed.

:D

Thelonious Monk

I cant think of anyone i know who hasn't tried illegal drugs. We are all murdering scum.

is_that_so

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I cant think of anyone i know who hasn't tried illegal drugs. We are all murdering scum.

Yeah and tobacco companies were built off the backs of slaves.

Wanderer78

Thelonious Monk wrote:

I cant think of anyone i know who hasn't tried illegal drugs. We are all murdering scum.

Ah we do exist alright, but many certainly have tried

One eyed Jack

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Legalisation won't 'solve' drug related issues, as there's no solutions to its issues, it's just a different way of managing it

Sure, at least that’s a bit more nuanced than just legalisation alone. Legalisation would only be effective if it were part of a more comprehensive policy to address the many related issues with sale, supply and misuse of drugs.

Fireball81

Legalise for personal consumption levels and remove the criminal element.

As for Leo having blood on his hands, you'll need to try harder.

Thelonious Monk

Anyway maybe someone grew the weed he smoked at home for personal use and no criminality involved

walshb

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I cant think of anyone i know who hasn't tried illegal drugs. We are all murdering scum.

A nonsense...

Plenty people have never used illegal drugs...

Fr_Dougal

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

After all the talk about how people consumimg drugs at the weekends have blood on their hands and are providing gangs with money thats bringing violence to our streets.

Surely Leo does the right thing and resign after admitting he has blood on his hands too?

I’d be more worried about the politicians who claim that they never tried drugs.

Wanderer78

One eyed Jack wrote:

Sure, at least that’s a bit more nuanced than just legalisation alone. Legalisation would only be effective if it were part of a more comprehensive policy to address the many related issues with sale, supply and misuse of drugs.

Legalisation wouldn't be problem free, it would be extremely problematic, it would introduce it's own complex problems, but it would depower criminal gangs. We would need to heavily invest in services around it though, particularly the health service, I can't see any of this happening though, so.......

sbsquarepants

What am i missing here - what's Leo been up to?

Chemsex orgies i pressume:D:D

is_that_so

sbsquarepants wrote: »

What am i missing here - what's Leo been up to?

Chemsex orgies i pressume:D:D

A momentary lapse, probably of a medical student doing "research". I doubt we are talking about a strung out opium fiend.

Deebles McBeebles

sbsquarepants wrote: »

What am i missing here - what's Leo been up to?

Chemsex orgies i pressume:D:D

He's been making a right mess. Remember when it was ok and even "cool" for politicians and public figures to come out and say "oh I had a puff of some reefer once but I didn't even inhale...lol" in order to gain votes/street cred? Well now hes mentioned blood on hands and people have run with it like the sheep they are and he's f*cked himself essentially. Delirah.

Beasty

There is already a thread on the TV debate