The Undoing [HBO] *Spoilers*

FunLover18

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Has anyone read the book?

No but I've been trying to work out who did it from the title

GottaGetGatt

Coming off Watching the Queens Gambit to this and Christ it’s tough going. Great cast but it ain’t great.

Cina

This is poor. Probably has enough to keep me watching as it's only six episodes but it's a mess and classic case of nothing happening for an hour and then a silly twist at the end which is quickly dismissed in the next episode.

siblers

Episode 4 was pretty bad apart from when Donald Sutherland ripped the principal a new one which was brilliant.

The TV interview was very silly and didn't make any sense.

Also, I think the blonde friend killed her

HeidiHeidi

siblers wrote: »

Episode 4 was pretty bad apart from when Donald Sutherland ripped the principal a new one which was brilliant.

The TV interview was very silly and didn't make any sense.

Also, I think the blonde friend killed her

A lot of it isn't making sense, tbh.


Most annoying of all for me is that one minute she/they're being mobbed by media, next she's strolling around Central Park and the streets of New York entirely alone. Like, it's New York - my disbelief has snapped at this stage from all the suspending.


It seems to be settling into a pattern of lining up a new suspect/motive in the last 5 minutes of each episode. I expect the pal will be next week's feature.


The father and the principal scene was brilliant!

JoeExotic81

Agreed with everything said above. Silly situations like the interview and the visit to the husband.

It could all come somewhat together when the big truth is unveiled but it's dragging badly the past two episodes.

Tazium

The dialogue in EP 4 was dreadful. Even Donald Sutherland's rant at the principal. Just awful use of language and not even reflective of his intent.

His scene with his Grace where he had to background explain he never liked Jonathan was as equally awful as the one between both Grace and Jonathan while strolling around NY.

As for Jonathon knocking on the door and being invited to feed his daughter by Fernando :rolleyes:

Such a good start and strong premise, but fell off the cliff last night.

flipflophead22

Any recommendations on what to move onto after this and queens gambit?

HeidiHeidi

flipflophead22 wrote: »

Any recommendations on what to move onto after this and queens gambit?

Roadkill on BBC was ok, stretched the credulity a bit but no better or worse than The Undoing as it turns out! Hugh Laurie is great, as usual.

JP Liz V1

flipflophead22 wrote: »

Any recommendations on what to move onto after this and queens gambit?

Why Women Kill

Little Fires Everywhere

Deeper Blue

The ending to episode 5 :eek:

Lisha

El Sueño wrote: »

The ending to episode 5 :eek:

I know !!

Shelga

Was definitely better this week, after lagging a bit in episodes 3 and 4.

Yes, that ending... :eek: Does it mean what we think it means?!

saw that coming from early on in that episode

in fairness they dropped various hints

bit about son seeing Hugh Grant and the dead woman at school etc - was almost as if he was going to spit out that he killed her

bit in the restaurant son saying basically now that this woman is out of the way / affair over that they can survive as a family

conversation with Hugh Grant's mother "Henry must be a grown man at this stage"

thing is (assuming this isn't some bs red herring which would be pathetic) - does Hugh Grant know also?

this show is utter shyte at this point imo but if there is only one episode left I guess that I'll see it out I suppose

flipflophead22

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Why Women Kill

Little Fires Everywhere

Are they on netflix?

JP Liz V1

I'm going with Grace as the killer as she too was having it off with the victim, I don't think it's any of the kids

Agent Coulson

Waiting for Donald Sutherland and Lily Rabe to be the next suspects before it ends up actually being the cop that is the killer.

JP Liz V1

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I'm going with Grace as the killer as she too was having it off with the victim, I don't think it's any of the kids

she would hardly hide the hammer in her son's fiddle box?

seemed surprised to find it there.

if all that episode was pure misdirection then it's even worse than I thought.

terribly poor show anyways.

fritzelly

Started suspecting the

kid

a few episodes ago

Inheriting his fathers traits...

JP Liz V1

Do we need spoiler tags once it has aired?

One big yawn.

I loved it about three episodes ago but think it’s complete tripe now.

JP Liz V1

glasso wrote: »

she would hardly hide the hammer in her son's fiddle box?

seemed surprised to find it there.

if all that episode was pure misdirection then it's even worse than I thought.

terribly poor show anyways.

Maybe the son hide it to help his mother

JP Liz V1

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Maybe the son hide it to help his mother

I wouldn't be surprised with this show as it's so bad!

GottaGetGatt

The Father could have it there when he went into the sons room on the night of the murder. " I love you son but I'm gonna f××k you over here". Thankfully its only 6 episodes, the acting has been fairly sh!te tbh. Its poor in contrast to previous HBO shows.

Cina

God it's fierce sh*the. Good thing there's only one episode left.

siblers

The court case was beyond nonsense. Going to the restaurant was nonsense. The blonde lawyer one waving at the prosecution was nonsense

The whole thing is nonsensical.

I still think the blonde one played a part in some shape or other

HeidiHeidi

siblers wrote: »

I still think the blonde one played a part in some shape or other

She's the only one who hasn't been lined up as a suspect at this stage, so it must be her!

siblers

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

She's the only one who hasn't been lined up as a suspect at this stage, so it must be her!

Jonathan admitted to sleeping with one other woman which i assume is her

HeidiHeidi

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

She's the only one who hasn't been lined up as a suspect at this stage, so it must be her!

going by the usual formula of exclusion could be the case

seems obvious that she is the other woman alluded to that Grant shag-poled.

cena

But son had his violin at his grandad's house. Surely the case would have been with him

JP Liz V1

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I'm going with Grace as the killer as she too was having it off with the victim, I don't think it's any of the kids

Was she??

JP Liz V1

Deleted User wrote: »

Was she??

I'm just guessing, how had she an intimate portrait painting of her?

siblers

Also, why is Jonathan a sociopath? His sister died in an accident, it's not like he actually killed her and his family forced him to suppress it which is why he never spoke about it.

Of course he still could be with some twist in the next episode

Hodors Appletart

Sutherland knows I think

I still think Kidman has missing scenes in her walks, killed the woman and hid the hammer in the violin case without knowing.

siblers

siblers wrote: »

Also, why is Jonathan a sociopath? His sister died in an accident, it's not like he actually killed her and his family forced him to suppress it which is why he never spoke about it.

Of course he still could be with some twist in the next episode

Sociopaths don't have to be violent but don't feel emotion and can't empathise with others, only sometimes pretend to.

extra gravy

Jayla Petite Scalp wrote: »

One big yawn.

I loved it about three episodes ago but think it’s complete tripe now.

It started off really well, now I'm just looking forward to it ending.

spurious

Sara Lund with a credible NY-ish accent is a highlight for me.

JP Liz V1

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I'm just guessing, how had she an intimate portrait painting of her?

We haven't seen Grace and Elena engaged in anything other than Elena acting rather provocative and strange towards her. Each time Grace looked uncomfortable and taken aback. From her expression it seemed that such interactions came of nowhere and were isolated incidences.

I really don't know about the portrait. Could it have been from memory? She was staring at Grace during the party so perhaps that's something she's been doing to help her memorise features and study her.

I don't think Grace killed her and I don't think Jonathan killed her. In saying that its the kind of show I think that will have a ridiculous ending and it may well turn out to be Jonathan .

maudgonner

spurious wrote: »

Sara Lund with a credible NY-ish accent is a highlight for me.

I keep expecting her to throw on the old geansaí and hunt down the gerningsmand herself

AMKC

siblers wrote: »

The court case was beyond nonsense. Going to the restaurant was nonsense. The blonde lawyer one waving at the prosecution was nonsense

The whole thing is nonsensical.

I still think the blonde one played a part in some shape or other

Not at all. You obviously have never been to a court case. That does happen in court cases including going out for lunch or dinner but here the Jurry have theres paid for and the accused and there family have to pay for there own.

siblers

AMKC wrote: »

Not at all. You obviously have never been to a court case. That does happen in court cases including going out for lunch or dinner but here the Jurry have theres paid for and the accused and there family have to pay for there own.

The accused in a high profile murder case being constantly followed by paparazzi decides to go to a public restaurant in the middle of said case?

That makes zero sense

nc6000

I think Jonathan's other affair was with the school headmaster, the blonde friend is too obvious so that's my guess.

JP Liz V1

flipflophead22 wrote: »

Are they on netflix?

I am not sure tbh if not Netflix maybe Amazon Prime

FunLover18

It looked like it had been cleaned I didn't see any blood, so whoever did it had to sense to clean it but not to get rid of it.

JoeExotic81

It's almost becoming a black comedy at this stage.

Hugh crying for Katie kitten had me giggling.

The husband's acting and his one facial moment.

Henry's eyes at the end. Just needed him to jump out of the bed and go full Omen on Nicole.

Please tell me there's only one episode left?!

Dire.

Oh and the big twist? She's not dead. They kept saying how unidentifiable she was. The husband ID'd her. You can be sure Donald is heavily involved. Tried to set up his son in law with the help of Elena and her family.

Hodors Appletart

on the back of this we watched BLL

that's much better, better written, better acted, better scripted, better all round

Hodors Appletart

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

on the back of this we watched BLL

that's much better, better written, better acted, better scripted, better all round

Oh god ya that’s streets ahead. I’d recommend little fires everywhere on amazon prime too

GottaGetGatt

Nicole Kidman is excellent in Big Little Lies, in this her character is like the female version of Tommy Wiseau

PressRun

Very difficult to know who to care about in this show. Not that every show needs to have likeable or sympathetic characters, but if they're going to be unlikeable, they at least have to have something about them that is in some way compelling. Nobody in this show is remotely interesting.

JP Liz V1

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