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Will Britain piss off and get on with Brexit II (mod warning in OP)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    Aegir wrote: »
    It’s effect on the Irish economy.
    The US is unhappy with tax avoidance by many US companies with overseas facilities as detailed on this link.


    https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/others/joe-bidens-tax-plan-irelands-economy


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,684 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    Best not to mention the frech troops who gave up their lives so the british army could escape from dunkirk in a glorious retreat.

    After the Brits abandoned them when France wanted to confront Hitler ( Britain had a nice naval treaty with the Nazis), RAF later bombed their Free French navy


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,605 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Compromise was agreed without bloodshed. Jersey offered them 2 sardines and a bag of scampi fries each. Hillarious !

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,814 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Best not to mention the frech troops who gave up their lives so the british army could escape from dunkirk in a glorious retreat.

    ..and basically sit, beaten and broke in Old Blighty until the big boys got involved with money and manpower to rescue them.
    They've been riding shotgun for the big boy ever since.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It makes sense the UK would have a fairly strong response to protests. If they want to ban their own citizens doing it, why would they let the French get away with it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Aegir wrote: »
    Mary, Joseph and the wee donkey :rolleyes:

    It was a protest by French fishermen that had the potential to turn nasty and the Royal Navy sent two ships from the fisheries protection squadron to make sure it didn't, but this is what, another example of 800 years of oppression?



    This whole affair was brought about by Brexit, a phenomenon brought about because of English nationalism and lies. You make it sound like it just turned nasty. The whole brexit affair is what turned relations nasty in the first place.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    After the Brits abandoned them when France wanted to confront Hitler ( Britain had a nice naval treaty with the Nazis), RAF later bombed their Free French navy

    wow, that amazing Irish education system is serving you really well there.

    Bravo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    How long until we get the WW2 French coward trope being used.

    Check the Twitter post referring to the French boats leaving the area. Full of posts like that. No clue of French history but possessed of a proud misunderstanding of their own history matched only by their knowledge of the EU.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    “Figures taken in context”

    Nice advice from a Brexiter ��

    It’s as if the Brits are jealous of American multinationals in Ireland,

    can’t hack free trade eh?

    If by free trade you mean blatant facilitation of tax evasion, or as the Americans call it, Leprechaun Economics then no, not a particularly big fan I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,045 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Long live leprechaun economics, and **** the begrudgers.

    If Countries of 60 to 260 million people find they can't compete with little old us in such things, frankly its their problem rather than ours.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 497 ✭✭loughside


    Aegir wrote: »
    If by free trade you mean blatant facilitation of tax evasion, or as the Americans call it, Leprechaun Economics then no, not a particularly big fan I'm afraid.


    Popcorn at the ready when Tax Harmonisation and Net Contributions all kick in..


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,814 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It is plain to see from the bitter Brexiteer/Little Englander/Unionist posts that they haven't gotten over Ireland having the power and making them do something they didn't ever have the humility to see, that they might have to do, Even though they were told and told again that they would have to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,543 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    I'm being 'childish' after a comment like that?

    Why didn't you just say nothing and leave the bitterness out of it.

    The Irish economy is the 'Irish economy', we could spend all day taking bitter little snipes at any economy if we wanted to.

    Wow!!! Just......wow!!!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It is plain to see from the bitter Brexiteer/Little Englander/Unionist posts that they haven't gotten over Ireland having the power and making them do something they didn't ever have the humility to see, that they might have to do, Even though they were told and told again that they would have to.

    what are you on about now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Mod

    Get back on topic or stop posting. Those are the options.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    The EU commission have announced that it was Britain breaking the terms of the EU/UK trade deal again. What do they expect to happen when they keep breaking agreed upon arrangements?

    The European Commission said the terms of the EU/UK trade deal are not being met in waters off the coast of Jersey, due to the conditions imposed on licences for French fishing boats there.

    Commission spokeswoman Vivian Loonela told a Brussels briefing: "On April 30, the commission was notified by the UK authorities of granting 41 licences to the EU vessels who are fishing in Jersey territorial waters from May 1.

    "But there were additional conditions set to these licences.

    "We have, following the receiving of this, indicated to the UK that we see that the provisions of the EU/UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement, that we recently agreed, have not been met there, have not been respected."


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,814 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    The EU commission have announced that it was Britain breaking the terms of the EU/UK trade deal again. What do they expect to happen when they keep breaking agreed upon arrangements?

    Making some effort to meet those agreements would have been the thing to do before escalating the situation by sending in the warships.

    The mileage is tiny here to large powerful ships, if the French fishermen did actually blockade the port for any significant period then it appropriate to to send a force to end it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Making some effort to meet those agreements would have been the thing to do before escalating the situation by sending in the warships.

    The mileage is tiny here to large powerful ships, if the French fishermen did actually blockade the port for any significant period then it appropriate to to send a force to end it.

    This is it exactly. You have people here claiming France are initiating this while ignoring the fact that the current British government are routinely reneging on terms they have agreed. Of course the French are going to be unhappy if this continues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,684 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    Aegir wrote: »
    wow, that amazing Irish education system is serving you really well there.

    Bravo.

    Yep Aegir, clearly it is

    It's great having an education system


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,684 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    Aegir wrote: »
    If by free trade you mean blatant facilitation of tax evasion, or as the Americans call it, Leprechaun Economics then no, not a particularly big fan I'm afraid.


    Sure aren't the Americans too busy helping the IRA and EU to be caring about multinationals?

    Funny does free trade involve HM's colonies in the Caymans and City of London?


    https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/09/uk-overseas-territories-top-list-of-worlds-leading-tax-havens


    https://www.taxjustice.net/2019/09/29/tax-havens-britains-second-empire/


    Looks like you lot don't like the competition, when you can't use gunboat diplomacy anymore


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I fear that the worst is yet to come with Brexit. The conditions promised by the vote leave campaign will never be achieved and the conditions imposed on the British by the British negotiating team will never be acceptable to the type of Brit who would vote to leave the EU (Irish sea border, fishing rights ect). The only route out of this is for the populist Boris Johnson to convince those dumb enough to vote for him that the EU is still to blame for all the UK's problems. He has a domestic support for acting aggressively towards other countries and that is worrying.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Making some effort to meet those agreements would have been the thing to do before escalating the situation by sending in the warships.

    The mileage is tiny here to large powerful ships, if the French fishermen did actually blockade the port for any significant period then it appropriate to to send a force to end it.

    Have you ever looked at a map?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I fear that the worst is yet to come with Brexit. The conditions promised by the vote leave campaign will never be achieved and the conditions imposed on the British by the British negotiating team will never be acceptable to the type of Brit who would vote to leave the EU (Irish sea border, fishing rights ect). The only route out of this is for the populist Boris Johnson to convince those dumb enough to vote for him that the EU is still to blame for all the UK's problems. He has a domestic support for acting aggressively towards other countries and that is worrying.

    so you are predicting war?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Aegir wrote: »
    Have you ever looked at a map?

    What's that got to do with the UK breaking agreements again?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,684 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    Looking forward to seeing these famous British electricity boats at Jersey


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Aegir wrote: »
    so you are predicting war?

    I'm predicting saber rattling, increased violence in Northern Ireland and a complete reduction in the UK's economic and political power at the very least.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    What's that got to do with the UK breaking agreements again?

    you clearly missed the last line of the post, or chose not to read it


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I'm predicting saber rattling, increased violence in Northern Ireland and a complete reduction in the UK's economic and political power at the very least.

    at what point will the zombie apocalypse happen?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,814 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aegir wrote: »
    Have you ever looked at a map?



    With the right breeze and a neap tide you can cross the channel in approx 4 hours...under SAIL.
    How quickly could a 'warship' cruising at over 20 knots be there? A couple of hours at most.

    Anyway, seems the French have done what they said and returned in the afternoon after protesting so it's the UK left looking silly and OTT here.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Aegir wrote: »
    at what point will the zombie apocalypse happen?

    Delusional post. All of the things I have described have actually already happened. You're alleging more of the same is hyperbole.


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