Is it possible to avoid illegal drug use?

freshpopcorn

I was thinking about this recently.
When I was in secondary school in the 2000's there was clearly a few who were out of it at times but in general there wasn't man into drugs.
When I went to college there was more of it on the go within certain groups but I could easily avoid it and still go to clubs, house parties, etc.
I have friends my age in there twenties and thirties who have never taken drugs and some would really enjoy a night out.
However some people refuse to believe a grown adult could live without taking drugs in there life.

Is it possible to avoid illegal drug use?

KiKi III

Most of my friends from down home have never even smoked weed.

They go pretty hard on the booze though.

scamalert

OP you sound like 15, of course its possible choose your friends wisely, ive seen plenty drug use in secondary school and college, theres no force to use em, if you dont like the crowd find people that are like you, not rocket science really.

freshpopcorn

scamalert wrote: »

OP you sound like 15, of course its possible choose your friends wisely, ive seen plenty drug use in secondary school and college, theres no force to use em, if you dont like the crowd find people that are like you, not rocket science really.

I can understand it's possible but it's people I encounter who refuse to believe it.

skooterblue2

I have associates that I met in my 30's. The party never ended for them after college. They continued on the party after university. They still kept the mushrooms weed and what not. Then in their late 20s one or two of them had strange deaths in cars and sudden deaths. Now a few of them are coming out as Bi-polar and other mental health problems.
I never ran with that crowd when I was in college or work. It is possible to observe it and not take part.

Mr Burns_Had Done It...

Mr Burns_Had Done It... wrote: »

None of my friends take drugs. It's a side effect of good parenting.

same, 32 now and go out clubs/pubs regularly, never took any, and same with the ones i associate with.....its not that hard

Andrew00

Just don't take drugs. Have a few pints of Guinness and enjoy the craic

freshpopcorn

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Is it possible to avoid illegal drug use?

Yes, by choosing to avoid environments where it's out in the open. And socialise with people of a similar mindset.

skooterblue2

scamalert wrote: »

OP you sound like 15, of course its possible choose your friends wisely, ive seen plenty drug use in secondary school and college, theres no force to use em, if you dont like the crowd find people that are like you, not rocket science really.

Its very hard and if you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas. The amount of money and time you waste you could use it to develop yourself.

freshpopcorn

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, by choosing to avoid environments where it's out in the open.

Yes, that was my understanding also.

I was thinking I was in the minority tough with this thinking.

Andrew00

Why do you lot take drugs anyway?

How do you know what pill it is you're taking and what not?

If someone went up to you on the street and handed you a Mars bar without it being wrapped you wouldn't eat it

skooterblue2

Its much easier to avoid drugs if you are having other hobbies.
There are two people that get involved in drugs:
People who have all the comforts in their life and they get involved out of boredom.
Then there are the people who are slipping into poverty and they get involved to escape the boredom.

skooterblue2

Andrew00 wrote: »

How do you know what pill it is you're taking and what not?

If someone went up to you on the street and handed you a Mars bar without it being wrapped you wouldn't eat it

You mean the finest bath salts made by some hack chemist in China or fresh colombian export delivered freshly pooped out the crack of a hefty lady called Mercy? Or come home grown cannabis sprayed with powdered glass to give extra weight?

Pass on all counts thanks.

Always Tired

Not if you hang out with me!


(And I don't mean because I do drugs, just that you'll need them because I'm unbearable to be around.)

Osamabindipper

Never touched any form of illegal drugs in my life.

Drink was enough for me when was younger I dont feel I missed out on anything.

Quantum Erasure

Is it possible to avoid illegal drug use? yeah, but why would you want to...

JustAThought

yes - just as in the same way its possible to live your life without being a criminal or becoming an adulterer etc. Old fashioned values and civilised behaviour and straightforward choices.


Nobody makes you take them - mars bar or not.

skooterblue2

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Is it possible to avoid illegal drug use? yeah, but why would you want to...

What is the definition of true love?
Two Junkies sh1tting the bed

pablo128

Andrew00 wrote: »

Why do you lot take drugs anyway?

How do you know what pill it is you're taking and what not?

If someone went up to you on the street and handed you a Mars bar without it being wrapped you wouldn't eat it

Pop over to Amsterdam for a weekend and enjoy untainted ganja in a proper cafe if that's all that you're worried about.

All legal and above board too.

Sleeper12

freshpopcorn wrote:

I can understand it's possible but it's people I encounter who refuse to believe it.

When you take drugs you tend to be hang out with people who take drugs. It's no fun being the only one at the party on drugs. Your friends live in an echo chamber so to speak. Plenty of people take drugs but likewise plenty of people don't take drugs

skooterblue2

pablo128 wrote: »

Pop over to Amsterdam for a weekend and enjoy untainted ganja in a proper cafe if that's all that you're worried about.

All legal and above board too.

yeah but when you dementia at 60 and cant remember if it is Monday or March, then it matters.

pablo128

skooterblue2 wrote: »

yeah but when you dementia at 60 and cant remember if it is Monday or March, then it matters.

Nothing to do with the post I replied to, but thanks all the same.

Actually you sound like the teachers I had in school telling us we would die after taking an E. Lying fcuks. I never had a bad reaction in 6 years taking them every weekend.

skooterblue2

pablo128 wrote: »

Nothing to do with the post I replied to, but thanks all the same.

Actually you sound like the teachers I had in school telling us we would die after taking an E. Lying fcuks. I never had a bad reaction in 6 years taking them every weekend.

and how old are you? Its not the once or twice ..... its the years and years and then one day either you have a heart attack or vessel pops in your head.

"Aww and he was the life and soul of the party!"

Better Than Christ

Andrew00 wrote: »

If someone went up to you on the street and handed you a Mars bar without it being wrapped you wouldn't eat it

Fond as I am of Mars bars, I would think that the 'reward' isn't quite the same.

I've yet to do any illegal drugs - mainly because I've never liked the idea of smoking anything, legal or otherwise. Also, I've never moved in the kind of circles that would give me easy access to drugs.

skooterblue2

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Fond as I am of Mars bars, I would think that the 'reward' isn't quite the same.

Actually sugar is 8 times more addictive than Cocaine.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23719144

" Overall, this research has revealed that sugar and sweet reward can not only substitute to addictive drugs, like cocaine, but can even be more rewarding and attractive. At the neurobiological level, the neural substrates of sugar and sweet reward appear to be more robust than those of cocaine (i.e., more resistant to functional failures), possibly reflecting past selective evolutionary pressures for seeking and taking foods high in sugar and calories."

Wanderer78

freshpopcorn wrote:

Is it possible to avoid illegal drug use?

Absolutely, I've done it, fairly hard on youngsters nowadays I'd imagine

Graces7

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I can understand it's possible but it's people I encounter who refuse to believe it.

Take no notice; they will try to get you involved..Misery loves company!

Bit cynical

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Is it possible to avoid illegal drug use?

Illegal drugs can be avoided by not taking illegal drugs.

Graces7

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Actually sugar is 8 times more addictive than Cocaine.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23719144

" Overall, this research has revealed that sugar and sweet reward can not only substitute to addictive drugs, like cocaine, but can even be more rewarding and attractive. At the neurobiological level, the neural substrates of sugar and sweet reward appear to be more robust than those of cocaine (i.e., more resistant to functional failures), possibly reflecting past selective evolutionary pressures for seeking and taking foods high in sugar and calories."

Stoopid post of the year! Used to justify drugs.I thought better of you that that!

Quantum Erasure

Bit cynical wrote: »

Illegal drugs can be avoided by not taking illegal drugs.

just take legal ones

skooterblue2

Graces7 wrote: »

Stoopid post of the year! Used to justify drugs.I thought better of you that that!

I am never justifying drugs. The only thing I hate more than drugs is the people who take them.

skooterblue2

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

just take legal ones

You mean like those Chinese bath salts and plant food from head shops made by budget industrial chemists in China? Pass.

Graces7

I was offered drugs once; cannot remember what. Cannabis? Something illegal anyways NB I am an old lady who walks with a stick and sometimes clearly in pain,

It was at a street market in Dunmanway. A couple who told me it would ease my [pain better than codeine which they said is addictive.. they only backed off when I reminded them that it was illegal

It must be so easy to get caught up in it; I have severe chronic pain


Must be so easy to get caught up.

tdf7187

I myself became addicted to Toblerone during a dark period in my life. At my worst, I ballooned to up to 14 stone, which is 11.3% above my optimum BMI.

Graces7

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I am never justifying drugs. The only thing I hate more than drugs is the people who take them.

Hey it was a joke, directed more at the research bods than at thee! I know you better than that after all this time; forgive me; just had some hard news and am trying to distract from it. SORRY!

I don't hate anyone; just stay clear. Which is easy in my situation!

rapul

Of course its possible but why would u want to, drugs are cool kids

corsav6

Graces7 wrote: »

I was offered drugs once; cannot remember what. Cannabis? Something illegal anyways NB I am an old lady who walks with a stick and sometimes clearly in pain,

It was at a street market in Dunmanway. A couple who told me it would ease my [pain better than codeine which they said is addictive.. they only backed off when I reminded them that it was illegal

It must be so easy to get caught up in it; I have severe chronic pain


Must be so easy to get caught up.

Cannabis can relieve pain for a lot of people and in fairness it's a lot milder than cocaine or other types of drugs. I'd have the odd joint every now and then as I find it helps me relax and sleep better. I don't consume alcohol or even coffee or other high caffeine drinks as they leave me feeling absolutely wrecked both mentally and physically.

skooterblue2

Graces7 wrote: »

I don't hate anyone; just stay clear.

Try wading knee deep down OConnell street in them. They are dirty, eyesores, smelly and a danger to themselves and other people. That film "Adam and Paul" gives great insight to the Junkie mindset.

Graces7

corsav6 wrote: »

Cannabis can relieve pain for a lot of people and in fairness it's a lot milder than cocaine or other types of drugs. I'd have the odd joint every now and then as I find it helps me relax and sleep better. I don't consume alcohol or even coffee or other high caffeine drinks as they leave me feeling absolutely wrecked both mentally and physically.

As I said very clearly it is illegal. Period. End of..

Graces7

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Try wading knee deep down OConnell street in them. They are dirty, eyesores, smelly and a danger to themselves and other people. That film "Adam and Paul" gives great insight to the Junkie mindset.

No thank you! I will stay where I am ! And never seen that film and do not want to .. lol!

rapul

Graces7 wrote: »

As I said very clearly it is illegal. Period. End of..

Sooner this kind of thinking is gone then maybe cannabis will be legalised to some extent, get with the times

Graces7

rapul wrote: »

Sooner this kind of thinking is gone then maybe cannabis will be legalised to some extent, get with the times

Why? I have no desire and no need. Period.

You wreck your head if you want to but no way will I .
Even were they legal. no way. I am with the times ; read this thread

OK?
OK!

And the mentality of trying to sell junk to an old lady like that! REALLY!

Arrival

Andrew00 wrote: »

Why do you lot take drugs anyway?

How do you know what pill it is you're taking and what not?

If someone went up to you on the street and handed you a Mars bar without it being wrapped you wouldn't eat it

Pretty easily if you're not an idiot and take harm reduction seriously and inform yourself, not everyone who consumes drugs is an idiotic waster who'll put anything into their bodies. It'd be far more easy for people who use drugs in Ireland to be safer if we actually had harm reduction services available like other countries because unfortunately there still are too many idiots who'll buy any old pill/bag off shady dealers. It's quite strange seeing as it's never been easier to learn about anything with how accessible the internet is. Laziness I suppose

Snails pace

Andrew00 wrote: »

Why do you lot take drugs anyway?

How do you know what pill it is you're taking and what not?

If someone went up to you on the street and handed you a Mars bar without it being wrapped you wouldn't eat it

I agree, no interest in taking drugs. People have no issue taking lines of coke off a cistern of a toilet in a night club or pub but if I gave them a drink in a dirty glass they'd say no.

Arrival

Graces7 wrote: »

As I said very clearly it is illegal. Period. End of..

Just because it's illegal doesn't mean you can't entertain the idea, and possibility, of it actually being something that genuinely could help you. Do you think it's immoral simply because of its legal status? Because that's really stupid if so. It's fully legal in Canada and Uruguay and in multiple States in the US, and medicinally legal in many more, so clearly there must be something to it

Arrival

Snails pace wrote: »

I agree, no interest in taking drugs. People have no issue taking lines of coke off a cistern of a toilet in a night club or pub but if I gave them a drink in a dirty glass they'd say no.

You haven't a clue if you think most people do lines off toilet cisterns, that's filthy

Snails pace

Arrival wrote: »

You haven't a clue if you think most people do lines off toilet cisterns, that's filthy

Thankfully I know nothing about it. So where do they take it ? Some of the local places here you have no choice

TheAnalyst_

People that have never touched them are a bit odd tbh. Either deeply conservative or deferential to authority.

Arrival

Snails pace wrote: »

Thankfully I know nothing about it. So where do they take it ? Some of the local places here you have no choice

Off their phones if doing lines or just use a key to do bumps. Some scaldy people would use coins

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

People that have never touched them are a bit odd tbh. Either deeply conservative or deferential to authority.

Yeah, I understand it with the older generation since they were basically brainwashed due to the lack of sources to learn the truth from but the younger generations, hearing people being closed minded and judgemental about recreational drug use really stands out as strange because there's no excuse for it. Fair enough if someone doesn't want to try the likes of coke, honestly they're not missing out on much there, but stuff like MDMA, psilocybin, LSD etc are all great fun and can be very beneficial to try at least once, provided you actually respect them and don't overdo it. It's funny to think some people reading me saying this would think I'm a lunatic or even a degenerate when the reality is the total opposite. MDMA is currently being trialled for treating PTSD patients by the FDA in the US, I would fully support mandatory MDMA experiences for every person in the country, it'd be hugely beneficial for society to have everyone learn to be more empathetic and compassionate; unfortunately scumbags who are absolute pillheads have massively tarnished the reputation of MDMA

Graces7

Arrival wrote: »

Just because it's illegal doesn't mean you can't entertain the idea, and possibility, of it actually being something that genuinely could help you. Do you think it's immoral simply because of its legal status? Because that's really stupid if so. It's fully legal in Canada and Uruguay and in multiple States in the US, and medicinally legal in many more, so clearly there must be something to it

Oh DEAR! Yes, immoral to break the law. Very much so. And mind your manners please. Calling folk names does not endear anyone to your cause .

And whatever you think it should be at this time it is illegal.. Here in Ireland where I live.

That is my decision. . If you want to do it, WHY not just do it? Do you need my endorsement to justify what YOU do? Ah is that it?

And I have all the help I need, thank you.

Snails pace

Arrival wrote: »

Off their phones if doing lines or just use a key to do bumps. Some scaldy people would use coins

Not being smart but i didn't know.