FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Iso_123

Jenosul wrote: »

Hi!

Constitution can be overwhelming as the questions are not to a specific topic and can be confusing. I felt this also the last time around. He is a really sound marker. I have been told and found it worked well if I just threw everything at a question in my mind as a list. Eg does separation of powers fit this question? Does Property rights? Does family? etc and say I would argue that property rights are also being infringed upon. If you say I would argue in Constitution you can argue anything! Even write out the list of topics in rough work and if it fits the question in some shape tick it off! I actually used nutshell also when studying and a few extra cases as the manual I was using was not as straightforward with explanations I found.

With regards questions I would pay attention to interpretation, referendum the president and AG as these never came up in last sitting! Property rights seems to be a regular as well as sop but personally I am not indept on sop just know the functions and a couple of relevant cases. If I were to learn the full manual I would cry and be overwhelmed. I literally pick a topic and write a brain storm of what know as a way of study. I ready the questions and think could I argue property rights ect

I hope this helps. Good luck. I suspect you know more than you are giving yourself credit and it will all come together for you.

This was so helpful thank you! I am defo going to take your advice with the president AG and interpretation as odds are one of those will come up! your advice for the problem questions is really helpful too! thanks again:)

Jenosul

Can any lovely kind person please send me the last EU paper please as screen shot? Thank you

Dliodoir2021

Company law

For corp authority, would you need to know ultra vires in detail? It seems almost redundant now when it’s no longer applicable to LTDs? Thanks

CiaraND16

Shonagoring123 wrote: »

That doesn’t make any sense if company is on Wednesday 7th and it’s moved to 7th November that’s a Saturday? And if it’s starting on the Wednesday 3rd November company isn’t the first exam so it wouldn’t be on the Wednesday? Can they not just publish a new timetable or people are gonna turn up on the wrong days

The 3rd of November is a Tuesday so company would be Wednesday like last time and then each of the others would be the same! (Same days of the week not exact same dates of course!)

Lallers96

When you pass an exam do you automatically get your script emailed out or is there a way you can request it? I'd be curious to see what marks I got for each answer

lawgrad15

Lallers96 wrote: »

When you pass an exam do you automatically get your script emailed out or is there a way you can request it? I'd be curious to see what marks I got for each answer

No you don't automatically get a copy of the script(s) - you have to request it.

Email is fe1dataprivacy@lawsociety.ie

I'm almost sure I had to send some photo ID with the request as well as my ID number. You have to state which exams you sat and what papers you are looking for.

Hope that helps!

LS3

anyone have constitutional notes ready to study from they can sell me or swap for notes for Criminal property Tort Equity EU Contract?

EmmaO94

Will be very interesting to hear Government's take on the NPHET recommendations - if they go along with them, November exams are out of the question!!

IgoPAP

EmmaO94 wrote: »

Will be very interesting to hear Government's take on the NPHET recommendations - if they go along with them, November exams are out of the question!!

Government won't go along with it - they'll accept level 4 instead, which means the exams are still out of the question.

lsheehaneire

They are not likely to go ahead now surely ?

Lallers96

There's not a chance this goes ahead physically anyway! We're already sitting on our hands now for a month waiting for Dublin to go down to level 2 and now it's going up if anything. I won't bother speculating what the government will do as per the new recommendations but there is zero chance this gets put down to level 2 where we can sit the exams physically in time for the proposed early November time.

ruby1998

I'm not able. I could have predicted this surely the Law Society could have also seen this coming.. Probably a cop out but every time something pops up that calls the exam sitting into question, my motivation to study vanishes lol.

IgoPAP

Looking forward to 25 months time when we finally get the opportunity to sit the exams because the Law Society seem to have a bizarre aversion to remote sittings.

lsheehaneire

They are going to have to adapt and go online. Covid is going nowhere fast and all those Fe1 fees are a nice little earner for them. It is a sucker punch, I have my last fe1 left and was hoping to start the hybrid in December but that's unlikely now. I guess we will wait and see what the government says and hope that the LS will communicate with us in a timely manner...

legallyginger

ruby1998 wrote: »

I'm not able. I could have predicted this surely the Law Society could have also seen this coming.. Probably a cop out but every time something pops up that calls the exam sitting into question, my motivation to study vanishes lol.

Exactly the same, I also feel I could have sat more subjects now with the length of time we have and probably will have lucky to even put in 2 hours a day now

Vegetarian2017

IgoPAP wrote: »

Looking forward to 25 months time when we finally get the opportunity to sit the exams because the Law Society seem to have a bizarre aversion to remote sittings.

It will most likely be next year before the Law Society can avail of remote sittings because of the amount of candidates there is no facility available to them which they have already confirmed. In that regard I would be focusing on the physical sitting only going ahead this side of christmas.

If level 4 goes ahead we can be sure it will follow with level 3 for 2 weeks or so, assume they will just postpone till the end of November /early december and anyone applying for hybrid will be giving an extension.

I think that will be the most logical response so if the goverment goes ahead I hope the law society will confirm something along those lines and not string us along.

Early November was always in my view a bit too hopeful we all know by now the restrictions always go on longer than what we are initially informed.

sarahlawless

Its all that that f***ing petition's fault !!!!!

Coopie

What r the chances of people getting an exception who have 1 exam left and want to start the Hybrid in December?

lsheehaneire

I would be up for that :-)

FE1new

legallyginger wrote: »

Exactly the same, I also feel I could have sat more subjects now with the length of time we have and probably will have lucky to even put in 2 hours a day now

Completely agree, my motivation is gone. I am really struggling to study.

Fe1student1234

Hopefully we find out today what the story is !

My motivation is completely gone can’t seem to study at all but I really have to 😂

lsheehaneire

PPC1 exams are being held online ...so hopefully the same can be done for the FE1s. I guess it depends on the numbers.

rickmatt

Is the nutshell for Constitutional law worth getting?

CoconutHeadMia

Can anyone explain why the exams cannot be held online? Other professions have gone online like the chartered accountant exams, kings inn etc so not sure why law society are reluctant to do that

Fe1student1234

CoconutHeadMia wrote: »

Can anyone explain why the exams cannot be held online? Other professions have gone online like the chartered accountant exams, kings inn etc so not sure why law society are reluctant to do that

They said there’s too many of us and no company has the capability of hosting us

I don’t think the law society are reluctant they just can’t find a company to host us

Fe1student1234

lsheehaneire wrote: »

PPC1 exams are being held online ...so hopefully the same can be done for the FE1s. I guess it depends on the numbers.

They’ve told people the FE1s will not be online - ppc2 was online also but FE1s still we’re in person in August

They said it’s highly unlikely a company will be found between now and November

Vegetarian2017

lsheehaneire wrote: »

PPC1 exams are being held online ...so hopefully the same can be done for the FE1s. I guess it depends on the numbers.

The law society already confirmed they wont due to the numbers and lack of facilities. The possibility for online fe1s will be next year at the earliest, if at all.

Hopefully the law society will confirm after the announcement a later date for the exams this year (late November/early December). No doubt late entry will be permitted for Hybrid applicants.

HU123

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

They’ve told people the FE1s will not be online - ppc2 was online also but FE1s still we’re in person in August

They said it’s highly unlikely a company will be found between now and November

I wonder have they considered getting two different companies.

Fe1student1234

HU123 wrote: »

I wonder have they considered getting two different companies.

No idea

They probably haven’t

dobby896

All I'm hoping for is some form of Government announcement this evening and an update from the Law Society asap after that.

Being in limbo is honestly so demotivating, not even just from a study point of view, generally also.

Fe1student1234

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

No idea

They probably haven’t

Also may need to make multiple papers to accommodate staggered online sittings if no company can host all FE1s at once 🀷ðŸ»*♀️

Fe1student1234

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Also may need to make multiple papers to accommodate staggered online sittings if no company can host all FE1s at once 🀷ðŸ»*♀️

Yeah they probably don’t want that tbh

IgoPAP

I don't find the argument that they just can't find a company very persuasive considering it's been half a year and there's an abundance of companies and methods available at the moment to facilitate online exams.

Fe1student1234

IgoPAP wrote: »

I don't find the argument that they just can't find a company very persuasive considering it's been half a year and there's an abundance of companies and methods available at the moment to facilitate online exams.

Idk i don’t see the benefit of lying and saying they can’t find a company if they haven’t tried

There’s obviously just too many people registered per exam

Lawlaw12

At this stage could they not just do it online but leave it open book, yes more people might pass that way but I'm sure they could afford to have one sitting with higher pass rates. Then they wouldn't necessarily need a company to supervise us by webcam etc.
We were left in limbo for 5 months last time and I cannot imagine having that situation again

LawStudent999

I definitely share the feeling of lack of motivation as many others here. While I understand that everything is up in a heap, a part of me does feel a certain amount of annoyance at the Law Society. From my perspective there have been many junctures so far at which the law society needed to put contingencies in place and failed to do so, other than supposing the exams be held at later dates. It just seems as though there is an underestimation by the LS as to the importance of sitting the exams for many people, especially those under time pressure in relation to starting hybrid courses, training contracts etc.

Surely if they have been in a position of uncertainty since after the March sitting, they could have commenced discussing alternatives other than just simply postponing every time a sitting doesn't suit. Even from this forum alone there have been some very feasible alternatives put forward that the LS don't even seem to have considered amongst themselves.

Hopefully some clarity is coming soon for us all.

Dliodoir2021

rickmatt wrote: »

Is the nutshell for Constitutional law worth getting?

If you're a first/second year student.

Get the supreme court book by ruadhan mccormaic

Use twitter to follow const'l academics, get their blog posts and email them for articles

Fe1student1234

I wonder has anyone heard anything or been in contact with the law society

IgoPAP

Government rejects Nphet guidance to move to Level 5. We're staying at Level 3 in Dublin.

Lawlaw12

IgoPAP wrote: »

Government rejects Nphet guidance to move to Level 5. We're staying at Level 3 in Dublin.

Apparently it will be level 3 nationwide, so no travel between counties.
Hopefully it will only last the 4 weeks and we can still sit the exams at some point in November

lsheehaneire

and we are meeting ye up there from Cork ...oh jesus, now where do we stand? A hope that we will all be at level 3 in 4 weeks??

Fe1student1234

Lawlaw12 wrote: »

Apparently it will be level 3 nationwide, so no travel between counties.
Hopefully it will only last the 4 weeks and we can still sit the exams at some point in November

Where did yous see this ? I’ve only saw there’s a meeting at half 5 to decide whether or not to go with the recommendations

ruby1998

Really hope there’s some indication as to where we stand given this evening..

maggie95

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

Where did yous see this ? I’ve only saw there’s a meeting at half 5 to decide whether or not to go with the recommendations

It's on the Journal's live updates

Pengo11

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

Where did yous see this ? I’ve only saw there’s a meeting at half 5 to decide whether or not to go with the recommendations

Richard Chambers has details on his twitter, few RTÉ sources have tweeted it as well that level 5 looks off the cards and everyone comes into level 3
What do people think this means for exams? Still not possible to go ahead under level 3?

maggie95

Any one else think a national move to Level 3 is the worst case scenario for us as the LS will continue to hope to hold the exams in a month with a drop to Level 2? (but it is very very unlikely for this to happen)
At least with Level 4 or 5 it would knock them on the head and alternative arrangements could be made asap

dobby896

Lawlaw12 wrote: »

Apparently it will be level 3 nationwide, so no travel between counties.
Hopefully it will only last the 4 weeks and we can still sit the exams at some point in November

If it does last the 4 weeks (from midnight tonight), that'll bring us right up to the day the exams start, imagine the panic of the next 4 weeks wondering if they will go ahead lol

Fe1student1234

Pengo11 wrote: »

Richard Chambers has details on his twitter, few RTÉ sources have tweeted it as well that level 5 looks off the cards and everyone comes into level 3
What do people think this means for exams? Still not possible to go ahead under level 3?

Thank you !!

No they were postponed due to level 3 in Dublin so that’s the start of November out of the question

Lawlaw12

dobby896 wrote: »

If it does last the 4 weeks (from midnight tonight), that'll bring us right up to the day the exams start, imagine the panic of the next 4 weeks wondering if they will go ahead lol

True, surely the LS couldn't actually book venues etc. when its very unlikely that all counties would move back to level 2 after the 4 weeks

maggie95

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

Thank you !!

No they were postponed due to level 3 in Dublin so that’s the start of November out of the question

You're right I think. On the LS website it says "Subject to any extension of the Level 3 status, or any other public health guidance/restrictions yet to be announced, the FE-1 sitting will commence in the first week of November 2020", given there's an extension and expansion of Level 3, start of November is out of question