FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Debarramike137

Any EU manuals, non pdf, please message me!

AlexTG356

CoconutHeadMia wrote: »

Are nutshells any use in terms of revision? Not for basing your sole study off of just in terms of breaking down important topics and seeing what is important

I think Val Corbett wrote nutshell for Tort. I never used it, but I had Val as a lecturer for Tort with lawschool and he was very good.

phildub

Does anyone have up to date notes for constitutional regarding abortion and the unborn, my manual and notes are all pre repeal!

stonewash

Anyone still waiting on August refunds? Tried emailing them but got no reply

fe1fi20

does anyone have tips for approaching the criminal exam? last time i studied criminal law was 2014/15

Lealaw

fe1fi20 wrote: »

does anyone have tips for approaching the criminal exam? last time i studied criminal law was 2014/15

Hey, I did it in the last sitting, so not an expert at all. But here are some tips that might help.

I'd recommend covering as much of the course as possible. Usually the criminal problem questions cover a number of different issues so you mainly just need surface knowledge. I'd cover Murder/ manslaughter in closer detail as this tends to be a more detailed question.

The main issues I covered, but each to their own:
Murder / manslaughter
Sexual offences
Theft / offences against the property
Non-fatal offences against the person
Inchoate offences: conspiracy, incitement attempt, joint enterprise (came up in November), perjury and contempt,
Criminal law defences: provocation (November essay question), intoxication, insanity, automatism, self-defence, duress, necessity and defence of consent
Practice and procedure: right to silence, presumption of innocence, arrest without warrant, bail, criminal cts.
Additional: Classification of offences, strict liability, mens rea/ actus reus

The examiner reports are great for Criminal. The examiner covers in detail what he is looking for. They are a good place to start and although the exact same question may not be asked similar scenarios are. Look at March 2020 sitting and the previous year, it is unlikely the main issues that came up in November will reappear in March.

Hope it is of some help. Also the Night Before Notes by City College are great and give you some recent case law which always helps.

Best of luck

legalspiegel

Hi everyone, I'm looking for manuals or notes for property and equity. I have sample answers/exam papers/examiners reports for those and contract, plus a manual for contract, if anyone wants to swap.

legallyginger

Anybody else really struggling to get back into study without results from last time? Starting to panic a bit now barely a topic covered in each three I plan to sit

nmurphy1441

Anyone have any tort essay sample answers they’d be willing to share with me?

tommytimber

Does anyone have any Contract sample answers they would be willing to share?

legalspiegel

tommytimber wrote: »

Does anyone have any Contract sample answers they would be willing to share?

I do, I'll pm you

Dropin

Bit of an awkward question but any input would be greatly appreciated

Have 3 exams left and don't have a whole bunch of time ( working full time etc). Naturally, I want to finish these things asap but I was wondering if anyone would know how leaving 1 exam until October would affect the timeline of my application process.

I was under the impression that if you do your last exam in the October sitting then you wont be able to start a training contract until autumn of the following year. However, is it the case with some firms that you can sit the exam in October and then they offer a contract for you to start with them that autumn on a conditional basis?

Sorry if its a bit convoluted but I am basically asking is it possible or the even norm to be offered a contract starting end of 2021/ start of 2022 when you would still have one exam left this October?

maggie95

Dropin wrote: »

Bit of an awkward question but any input would be greatly appreciated

Have 3 exams left and don't have a whole bunch of time ( working full time etc). Naturally, I want to finish these things asap but I was wondering if anyone would know how leaving 1 exam until October would affect the timeline of my application process.

I was under the impression that if you do your last exam in the October sitting then you wont be able to start a training contract until autumn of the following year. However, is it the case with some firms that you can sit the exam in October and then they offer a contract for you to start with them that autumn on a conditional basis?

Sorry if its a bit convoluted but I am basically asking is it possible or the even norm to be offered a contract starting end of 2021/ start of 2022 when you would still have one exam left this October?

PPC1 starts each year in September so my instinctive answer would be no. Your contract would start on or before September 2021 to be in the 2021 intake.
There isn't such a thing as a conditional offer for these, I'm afraid. The Law Society requires that you have passed all 8 in order to register.

However, I know little to nothing about the Hybrid course so perhaps someone who knows more about that might be able to help. However, my understanding is that the Hybrid starts in advance of the intake, as opposed to after it, i.e. the 2021 Hybrid intake is starting this weekend, so to do the Hybrid next year it would be for 2022. Open to correction on this though!

dobby896

legallyginger wrote: »

Anybody else really struggling to get back into study without results from last time? Starting to panic a bit now barely a topic covered in each three I plan to sit

I'm the exact same, trying to cover a few things this week and then after the results the last sitting will be out of my mind, finding focus hard!

EAA123

Hi

Has anyone heard anything from the law society re results from nov?

I emailed and didn’t hear anything yet.

I have a feeling they’re just going to say the results are up like last time which I don’t mind because I nearly can’t sleep for a week after the first email saying results will be out the following week lol

Reya10

Dropin wrote: »

Bit of an awkward question but any input would be greatly appreciated

Have 3 exams left and don't have a whole bunch of time ( working full time etc). Naturally, I want to finish these things asap but I was wondering if anyone would know how leaving 1 exam until October would affect the timeline of my application process.

I was under the impression that if you do your last exam in the October sitting then you wont be able to start a training contract until autumn of the following year. However, is it the case with some firms that you can sit the exam in October and then they offer a contract for you to start with them that autumn on a conditional basis?

Sorry if its a bit convoluted but I am basically asking is it possible or the even norm to be offered a contract starting end of 2021/ start of 2022 when you would still have one exam left this October?

You can't start PPC until you have all 8 fe1s. If you only have 7 after the March sitting, you can only start PPC Hybrid in December 2021, or the regular PPC in September 2022. A firm can offer a TC for a particular year on the condition that you get all 8 fe1s by the start date, but if you fail to get all 8 by the start date you can't commence PPC. Maybe that's where you heard the idea of the conditional offer- it's normal for firms to offer TCs to fe1 candidates with some exams still to pass, but you must have passed all of them before the start of PPC.

For the Hybrid course they are allowing late starts this year but I think that is only because of Covid and the fact that the last sitting and the results have been delayed as a result. Hope this helps

Dropin

maggie95 wrote: »

PPC1 starts each year in September so my instinctive answer would be no. Your contract would start on or before September 2021 to be in the 2021 intake.
There isn't such a thing as a conditional offer for these, I'm afraid. The Law Society requires that you have passed all 8 in order to register.

However, I know little to nothing about the Hybrid course so perhaps someone who knows more about that might be able to help. However, my understanding is that the Hybrid starts in advance of the intake, as opposed to after it, i.e. the 2021 Hybrid intake is starting this weekend, so to do the Hybrid next year it would be for 2022. Open to correction on this though!

Thank you

Dropin

Reya10 wrote: »

You can't start PPC until you have all 8 fe1s. If you only have 7 after the March sitting, you can only start PPC Hybrid in December 2021, or the regular PPC in September 2022. A firm can offer a TC for a particular year on the condition that you get all 8 fe1s by the start date, but if you fail to get all 8 by the start date you can't commence PPC. Maybe that's where you heard the idea of the conditional offer- it's normal for firms to offer TCs to fe1 candidates with some exams still to pass, but you must have passed all of them before the start of PPC.

For the Hybrid course they are allowing late starts this year but I think that is only because of Covid and the fact that the last sitting and the results have been delayed as a result. Hope this helps

Thank you Seems as though I have some serious cramming to do...

nmurphy1441

legalspiegel wrote: »

I do, I'll pm you

What sample answers have you for contract? Did you find them good?

ruby1998

Has anyone got good constitutional sample answers and or concise notes? Feel like I’m wasting my time and going through every topic ok too much detail.

Fe1user5555

Does anyone know which topics came up on the November Constitutional paper? Sorry if this has already been asked!

lawDani

Dropin wrote: »

Thank you Seems as though I have some serious cramming to do...

likewise my friend... suffer now and live later haha

FE1Rookie

Anyone heard any word back from the Law Access Programme? I sent my application weeks ago and I would've thought I'd have heard word back this week. Just getting a bit anxious as the deadline is Friday so I'm just worried they haven't got it or something.

michaelot97

EAA123 wrote: »

Hi

Has anyone heard anything from the law society re results from nov?

I emailed and didn’t hear anything yet.

I have a feeling they’re just going to say the results are up like last time which I don’t mind because I nearly can’t sleep for a week after the first email saying results will be out the following week lol

I emailed them and they just replied saying provisional release date is Monday

jus_me

michaelot97 wrote: »

I emailed them and they just replied saying provisional release date is Monday

They said it was going to be the 11th? That’s better than saying the week of the 11th haha

lawgrad2020

Hey does anyone have 2020 papers for tort or equity or even be able to tell me what came up?
I have march 2020 for EU, Contract, Company and Property to swap!

Fe7

Has anyone ever applied for a recheck in recent times with success? I have read experiences from other posters further back.

With our results coming up, sitting on the fence if the scenario arises where I may need to consider it and as of right now I'm on the fence if its worth it.

Some have been jumped up considerably to a pass. Which I'm not surprised about, they make so many errors with various things and are so unorganised. On the other hand forking over 115 quid for maybe 30 seconds of their time to recount marks (when they should have done it correctly for the fee paid the first time) doesn't sit well with me.

Meg!

Fe7 wrote: »

Has anyone ever applied for a recheck in recent times with success? I have read experiences from other posters further back.

With our results coming up, sitting on the fence if the scenario arises where I may need to consider it and as of right now I'm on the fence if its worth it.

Some have been jumped up considerably to a pass. Which I'm not surprised about, they make so many errors with various things and are so unorganised. On the other hand forking over 115 quid for maybe 30 seconds of their time to recount marks (when they should have done it correctly for the fee paid the first time) doesn't sit well with me.

You can request to see your paper first before deciding

FE1Pleb

Fe7 wrote: »

Has anyone ever applied for a recheck in recent times with success? I have read experiences from other posters further back.

With our results coming up, sitting on the fence if the scenario arises where I may need to consider it and as of right now I'm on the fence if its worth it.

Some have been jumped up considerably to a pass. Which I'm not surprised about, they make so many errors with various things and are so unorganised. On the other hand forking over 115 quid for maybe 30 seconds of their time to recount marks (when they should have done it correctly for the fee paid the first time) doesn't sit well with me.

From past experience I wouldn't advise it. I had Equity re-checked last March and the re-checked paper didn't differ at all from the original. The second examiner didn't even fill in the marks on the paper. Complete waste of money in my eyes. Others have had better experiences though

Fe7

Meg! wrote: »

You can request to see your paper first before deciding

Lovely, did not know that!

Saved.bythelaw

I can send you on notes for constitutional if you like you can send me a message!

Fe7

FE1Pleb wrote: »

From past experience I wouldn't advise it. I had Equity re-checked last March and the re-checked paper didn't differ at all from the original. The second examiner didn't even fill in the marks on the paper. Complete waste of money in my eyes. Others have had better experiences though

Yeah I'm curious what the reasoning for the cost is, think its more of a deterent than anything.

Supermax1988

Meg! wrote: »

You can request to see your paper first before deciding

From personal experience and accounts of other posters on here, you get your scanned copy of the paper long after deadline for the re-check application has passed.

keelfe1s

Those studying equity - can you tell me what topics you’re thinking of covering?

taralawfe1

Does anyone have any sample answers for tort and company? Can trade for equity, constitutional or contract.

Saved.bythelaw

Land-based torts- nuisance and rylands
passing off
causation
product liability
essay on statute of limitations

I recommend focusing on professional negligence, neg mistatement and damages for March 2021

rickmatt

Any tips on getting a traineeship much appreciated

channing90

Are law firms hiring now or will it be impossible to get a job even a internship in the next few months with the new lockdown?

Corplawtrainee

rickmatt wrote: »

Any tips on getting a traineeship much appreciated

Depends on what type of firm you're applying for. If you're applying for corporate/commercial types it really helps to have a good understanding of the business side of things - both how the firm operates as a business and the wider economic envioronment and how this effects the firm and its clients. The interviews tend to be more business focussed than than legal tbh, so if you can have a pretty in depth discussion about current market trends and how they influence legal work it would help you impress. Have a basic understanding of what the core practice areas actually do e.g. M&A/Finance - what types of transactions does the firm do and how do they add vlaue i.e. why do clients turn to them and not other firms.

Bloomberg, the economist, FT and the Business Post served me pretty well for interivew prep.

After that, seems to boil down to legal/commercial experience, grades and your personality. If you have a few different experiences that are a bit quirky try and leverage those on your application form to make you stand out.

It's a bit tricky to get experience atm, but there are a lot of different online courses that you could do that would at least show that you are proactive. Anything that aligns to your area of interest, I did a course on Private equity which was quite good and cheap.

Also, Linkedin can be useful way of making connections and learning more about the area of law you want to practise. If you send a thoughtful message to someone working in an area/firm you're interested in, more often than not they'll be more than happy to have a chat about their work. Won't neccesarily get you the job, but can help you to make a good impression and increase your overal legal knowledge.

Fe7

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FE12020Law

Hey guys, just wondering if you think this will be enough to cover for Tort:
DOC/SOC
Causation/Remoteness
Defamation
Defective Products
Nuisance
Occupier's Liability
Vicarious Liability
Damages
Rylands v Fletcher - Trespass
Nervous Shock

Should I add anything ?

neon123

Hi folks, what are people covering for Constitutional? Seems like its best to cover most topics here but is there a round up of core topics that should mostly cover someone?

wispa9

For constitutional is it advisable to cover all three of Family, Education, and Religion, can anyone tell me? I find these topics quite dense so wondering if I could chance leaving one out

lawgrad49

FE12020Law wrote: »

Hey guys, just wondering if you think this will be enough to cover for Tort:
DOC/SOC
Causation/Remoteness
Defamation
Defective Products
Nuisance
Occupier's Liability
Vicarious Liability
Damages
Rylands v Fletcher - Trespass
Nervous Shock

Should I add anything ?

I would add Passing off & Intentional Torts in there, easy enough to grasp and he likes asking them - both came up in August I believe.

lawgrad49

Can anyone share any advice on how to prepare for the Constitutional case note Q?

Is there any pattern to the 4 cases he usually asks? Or should I just save myself the hassle and decide in advance not to do it? I left the case note question out of my revision for EU and found I saved a lot of time just knowing 2-3 key facts from each case.

ScatmanWhack

Hi all,

Has anybody received their results from August in the post?

FE.ONE

ScatmanWhack wrote: »

Hi all,

Has anybody received their results from August in the post?

I haven't even received mine from March lol

awsah

lawgrad2020 wrote: »

Hey does anyone have 2020 papers for tort or equity or even be able to tell me what came up?
I have march 2020 for EU, Contract, Company and Property to swap!

here is Tort

awsah

lawgrad49 wrote: »

I would add Passing off & Intentional Torts in there, easy enough to grasp and he likes asking them - both came up in August I believe.

intentional torts I think also came up in November, and I think Rylands has been up also. I left out rylands and had passing off instead and the rest of the topics you listed and I was good to have 6 questions

Iso_123

Would anyone have any EU sample answers they would be willing to share with me? I have materials for most other subject to swap.