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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Longshot Equity prediction -

    Q1. Mareva
    Q2. DMC
    Q3. Charitable/Cy-pres
    Q4. Note - Satisfaction, Trusteeship, Strong v Bird
    Q5. Undue Influence
    Q6. 3 Certainties
    Q7. Advancement
    Q8. Secret Trusts


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭EmmaO94


    Longshot Equity prediction -

    Q1. Mareva
    Q2. DMC
    Q3. Charitable/Cy-pres
    Q4. Note - Satisfaction, Trusteeship, Strong v Bird
    Q5. Undue Influence
    Q6. 3 Certainties
    Q7. Advancement
    Q8. Secret Trusts

    This would be a dream come true!


  • Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭spygirl


    Similar but am also adding in the estoppel with a focus on unconscionability test. I have no idea why. Feeling suspicious.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    spygirl wrote: »
    Similar but am also adding in the estoppel with a focus on unconscionability test. I have no idea why. Feeling suspicious.

    I was debating putting prop estoppel in there too, do have a feeling it might come up but just didn’t make the prediction cut! Probably wishful thinking on my part to get a 3 certainties or secret trusts Q

    An unconscionable based Q would be nice though


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 JimmyJazzz


    Law1997 wrote: »
    Thank you so much it’s a lot clearer now! excellent example of the county council - thank you

    No problem at all ðŸ‘ðŸ¼


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭leavingcert17


    Longshot Equity prediction -

    Q1. Mareva
    Q2. DMC
    Q3. Charitable/Cy-pres
    Q4. Note - Satisfaction, Trusteeship, Strong v Bird
    Q5. Undue Influence
    Q6. 3 Certainties
    Q7. Advancement
    Q8. Secret Trusts

    They would be lovely, why not man inj since new case?


  • Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭user115


    For Equity I'm focusing on:

    - Injunctions interloc and mareva
    - Recission and IU
    - CHaritable and cy pres
    - Secret trusts
    - Prop Estoppel
    - 3 certs
    - DMC
    - Satisfaction
    - trusteeship

    Have notes done for SP but don't think it's gonna come up.

    On interloc injunctions I've read up on Merke Sharpe v Clonmel, but is it relevant to talk about that in mandatory interloc injunctions? I'm so confused about it. Injunctions wrecking my head all evening has put me off doing the question if I have a choice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭user115


    They would be lovely, why not man inj since new case?

    She has been asking Mareva's alot if look through reports, last year she asked mand inter in autumn and qui timet in spring, in 2018 she asked mareva in both sittings and in previous years it's often on. I'm really hoping anton pillars don't appear I'm not covering them but they have been asked and have not been up now in a while. Would so love if I had choice not to do q on injunction


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭leavingcert17


    user115 wrote: »
    She has been asking Mareva's alot if look through reports, last year she asked mand inter in autumn and qui timet in spring, in 2018 she asked mareva in both sittings and in previous years it's often on. I'm really hoping anton pillars don't appear I'm not covering them but they have been asked and have not been up now in a while. Would so love if I had choice not to do q on injunction

    I’m hoping I can avoid injunctions as well. I’m not covering anton pillar but gonna try get brief summary of most other chaps in Tomorrow (hopeful thinking) I’m off to bed now, and up at 6.. woo


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭JCormac


    20082014 wrote: »
    TORT

    Whats peoples opinion on covering the below for the exam?

    Defamation
    Res Ipsa Loquiter
    Animal and Fire

    I am unsure whether to cover them or not. I haven't even looked at them so it would be learning from scratch and unsure if they are even likely to come up! Trying not to waste my time covering unnecessary topics (if thats even a thing!!)

    Defamation has come up the last four sittings now so if it came up again it would be the fifth sitting in a row. Personally I had previously covered it earlier in my studying but doubt I'll be covering it again for that reason. Would love to hear what other people think of the Defamation/exam situation at present though?

    Res Ipsa is a solid shout, just to have yourself covered. It's not that long a topic if I remember correctly.

    I'd cover Liability for Animals on the same basis as Res Ipsa. It could possibly come up as part of a Q


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  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭JCormac


    EU

    For the Free Movements - Does anybody know how frequently Free movement of Services (FMS) come up as part of the FM of Workers question?

    Haven't had time to cover FMS and would be super grateful if someone had like a page summary of the essentials of FMS or even the main cases if that's all that's needed. Trying to cut topics is a tricky business

    I can trade whatever notes I have!


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 isawitfirst


    Is there a different EU examiner this year or something? Just because the CC night before notes says "unlikely with this examiner" re free movement of services, and I'm just wondering if they mean this examiner is a different one or something


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 isawitfirst


    You might lose a mark or two - once you identified the correct law I'd imagine you'll be ok
    JCormac wrote: »
    EU

    For the Free Movements - Does anybody know how frequently Free movement of Services (FMS) come up as part of the FM of Workers question?

    Haven't had time to cover FMS and would be super grateful if someone had like a page summary of the essentials of FMS or even the main cases if that's all that's needed. Trying to cut topics is a tricky business

    I can trade whatever notes I have!

    The CC night before notes are very good on that topic

    https://citycolleges.ie/app/uploads/Night-Before-Notes-EU.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    Contract

    Did discharge of contracts come up on the last sitting?


  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    JCormac wrote: »
    Defamation has come up the last four sittings now so if it came up again it would be the fifth sitting in a row. Personally I had previously covered it earlier in my studying but doubt I'll be covering it again for that reason. Would love to hear what other people think of the Defamation/exam situation at present though?

    Res Ipsa is a solid shout, just to have yourself covered. It's not that long a topic if I remember correctly.

    I'd cover Liability for Animals on the same basis as Res Ipsa. It could possibly come up as part of a Q

    I won’t be covering defamation, employers liability, or professional negligence


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    user115 wrote: »
    She has been asking Mareva's alot if look through reports, last year she asked mand inter in autumn and qui timet in spring, in 2018 she asked mareva in both sittings and in previous years it's often on. I'm really hoping anton pillars don't appear I'm not covering them but they have been asked and have not been up now in a while. Would so love if I had choice not to do q on injunction

    What's the new case?


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    spygirl wrote: »
    Similar but am also adding in the estoppel with a focus on unconscionability test. I have no idea why. Feeling suspicious.

    I'd say estoppel will come up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    What's the new case?

    Merck Sharpe & Dohme Corp v Clonmel Healthcare - Adequacy of damages is to be considered as part of the BOC rather than separately.

    It's not a huge deal but it's still significant


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    Anything major missing from this lot?

    3 C's, DMC, Mareva, UI, Charitable/Resulting/Secret Trusts, Estoppel, Tracing & Specific Performance?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭leavingcert17


    Would it be safe to leave out injunctions apart from mareva and maxims, quistclose, tracing and covered the rest?


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭EAA123


    Hi,

    could anyone please give me some insight to the three certainties question in oct 17 q.3

    the line at the end about "the ballygrange historical society residuary clause" . In my book the answer is done out in relation to non-purpose trusts but the rest of the question is in relation to three certs ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Kellyg248


    Just wondering if anyone would have a link or the summary of Quinlivan v ODea?

    ...and many thanks to those who are posting. I'm new here and the information is priceless!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    EAA123 wrote: »
    Hi,

    could anyone please give me some insight to the three certainties question in oct 17 q.3

    the line at the end about "the ballygrange historical society residuary clause" . In my book the answer is done out in relation to non-purpose trusts but the rest of the question is in relation to three certs ??

    You would have to discuss the difficulties regards the gift to an unincorporate entity, either leaving it on trust to the members of the assiciation or the contract holding theory.

    I think that's the case requires but open to any correction!


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭EAA123


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    You would have to discuss the difficulties regards the gift to an unincorporate entity, either leaving it on trust to the members of the assiciation or the contract holding theory.

    I think that's the case requires but open to any correction!

    Thank you.

    Hopefully the three certs comes up as an essay rather than a problem


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭leavingcert17


    EAA123 wrote: »
    Thank you.

    Hopefully the three certs comes up as an essay rather than a problem

    Same


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  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭jewels652


    Eu

    For competition law what level of detail is required for the leniency programs part ? I have done the main sub heading under art 101 and just a short summary on leniency. Is that enough or should I know leniency well?

    Tía


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Did someone say earlier that you don't need manifest disadvantage for presumed undue influence anymore or did I imagine that?

    Or is that just in relation to banks once there is a non-commercial element?

    Anyone?


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭EAA123


    Anyone?

    I think so

    irish courts are more concerned with the substantial benefit obtained by the stronger party

    why would a wife or whoever become a surety when it solely benefits the other person


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    Anything major missing from this lot?

    3 C's, DMC, Mareva, UI, Charitable/Resulting/Secret Trusts, Estoppel, Tracing & Specific Performance?

    Imposing a constructive trust on a 3rd party


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭supercreative


    Contract

    Does anyone know whether the provisions about services in s39 of the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 are conditions or warranties? The Act itself doesn't actually seem to say.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    Contract

    Does anyone know whether the provisions about services in s39 of the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 are conditions or warranties? The Act itself doesn't actually seem to say.

    As far as I know they can be both and they are implied by statute so that’s very significant for the consumer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    Any company predictions/main topics my good people?


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    Contract

    Does anyone know whether the provisions about services in s39 of the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 are conditions or warranties? The Act itself doesn't actually seem to say.

    Conditions


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Lawgrad101


    Would I be covered knowing :

    Interlocutory Injunctions, Mareva Injunctions, Trustees Duties, Charitable Trusts and Cy Pres, Undue Influence, Prop Estoppel, Strong v Bird, The Presumption of Advancement, The Three Certainties, Doctrine of Satisfaction and Secret Trusts?

    Any advice appreciated!


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭CMUL


    Contract

    Did discharge of contracts come up on the last sitting?

    It came up as kind of a 3 part to discuss breach of contract for repudiation, anticipatory and innominate term.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭CMUL


    Lawgrad101 wrote: »
    Would I be covered knowing :

    Interlocutory Injunctions, Mareva Injunctions, Trustees Duties, Charitable Trusts and Cy Pres, Undue Influence, Prop Estoppel, Strong v Bird, The Presumption of Advancement, The Three Certainties, Doctrine of Satisfaction and Secret Trusts?

    Any advice appreciated!

    Strong v bird on last paper so doubtful it will reappear. She doesn't usually repeat the part qs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Caroline Hamblyn


    Thanks reya I'll mail you my email address now. Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭lawgrad15


    As far as I know they can be both and they are implied by statute so that’s very significant for the consumer.

    That's correct - can be conditions or warranties i.e. are akin to an innominate term


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭CiaranS93


    Anyone?

    Yes some clarified earlier.

    Manifest disadvantage is used by English courts. Ireland is based off substantial benefit and independent legal advice


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭CiaranS93


    Lawgrad101 wrote: »
    Would I be covered knowing :

    Interlocutory Injunctions, Mareva Injunctions, Trustees Duties, Charitable Trusts and Cy Pres, Undue Influence, Prop Estoppel, Strong v Bird, The Presumption of Advancement, The Three Certainties, Doctrine of Satisfaction and Secret Trusts?

    Any advice appreciated!

    Donatia Morris causa is a pretty regular feature


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    It almost takes me as long to cover Injunctions and SP as it does the rest of the course!! (minus charitable)


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    It almost takes me as long to cover Injunctions and SP as it does the rest of the course!! (minus charitable)

    She's thick


  • Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭user115


    Does power of trustees come up much? I don't really have any cases on it

    Focusing on removal and duties


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭Reya10


    Was satisfaction on the paper in March 19?

    Haven't covered it it at all but wondering if I should now as it seems to be due up for the note from what people are saying?

    If anyone could give me the list of topics that came up March 19 I'd be so grateful


  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    user115 wrote: »
    Does power of trustees come up much? I don't really have any cases on it

    Focusing on removal and duties

    Trusteeships comes up often enough so I’d cover it! As far as I can remember, there’s not much case law but you need to know the legislation that governs it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭EmmaO94


    Equity

    Re DMCs - does King v Dubrey effectively overturn Vallee v Birchwood? Is Vallee v Birchwood useless now?! Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Lawgrad101


    Reya10 wrote: »
    Was satisfaction on the paper in March 19?

    Haven't covered it it at all but wondering if I should now as it seems to be due up for the note from what people are saying?

    If anyone could give me the list of topics that came up March 19 I'd be so grateful

    From my notes Satisfaction was up then.

    March 2019:

    Problem Qs- Trustees Duties, Quia Timet Injs, DMC, Specific Performance with Rectification, Resulting Trusts (Joint Accounts)

    Essays- Undue Influence, Constructive Trusts, Presumption of Advancement (part B), Purpose Trusts (part A), Charitable Trusts (part C) and Satisfaction (part D)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    EmmaO94 wrote: »
    Equity

    Re DMCs - does King v Dubrey effectively overturn Vallee v Birchwood? Is Vallee v Birchwood useless now?! Thanks

    I didn't have King v Dubrey so I looked it up, looks like it was overturned by the Court of Appeal in King v Chiltern Dog Rescue


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭Reya10


    I didn't have King v Dubrey so I looked it up, looks like it was overturned by the Court of Appeal in King v Chiltern Dog Rescue

    King v Dubrey originally followed Vallee. Then Court of Appeal in King overturned it and said Vallee was wrongly decided. (King v Chiltern Dog rescue is the appeal of King v Dubrey)

    So now it's clear courts must exercise 'considerable caution' in granting DMCs. Vallee was very broad as it upheld DMC that was made 4-5 months before death, and in King v Dubrey it was 4-6 months and the testator had not even been in bad health/dying of anythihg, she was just old.

    Law has now backtracked- It now seems to be very unlikely that courts will uphold DMCs unless contemplated death is imminent (like in other cases before Vallee where DMCs were upheld it had only been days between gift and death) + other requirements as set out in Re Beaumont/Re Wasserberg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Reya10 wrote: »
    King v Dubrey originally followed Vallee. Then Court of Appeal in King overturned it and said Vallee was wrongly decided. (King v Chiltern Dog rescue is the appeal of King v Dubrey)

    So now it's clear courts must exercise 'considerable caution' in granting DMCs. Vallee was very broad as it upheld DMC that was made 4-5 months before death, and in King v Dubrey it was 4-6 months and the testator had not even been in bad health/dying of anythihg, she was just old.

    Law has now backtracked- It now seems to be very unlikely that courts will uphold DMCs unless contemplated death is imminent (like in other cases before Vallee where DMCs were upheld it had only been days between gift and death) + other requirements as set out in Re Beaumont/Re Wasserberg

    Nice one thank you, saves me having to research it


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