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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭ahhhhhFE1s


    DRMC wrote: »
    Hi,

    Would any kind soul be willing to send me Family Property notes, please? I feel like I haven’t got enough covered.

    Thank you very much.

    If you PM me your email, I'll send you my family property notes


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 sm333


    bobbyness wrote: »
    Sums it up perfectly

    That explains it so clearly, thank you!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 sm333


    Common mistake is both parties making the same mistake as one another...

    Mutual mistake is both parties still make a mistake but they are different mistakes....

    If that’s any help! What’s confusing you?


    Thank you, I just couldn’t get it straight in my head!! Think I have it now


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    sm333 wrote: »
    Anyone else getting really confused between common and mutual mistake for contact??

    Mutual mistake means the parties were never ad idem and a contract could be said to not objectively exist - Clayton Love, Mespill v Capaldi. Difference between a mistake as to terms and a mistake as to effect of terms.

    Common mistake - void where sufficiently important (great peace). Voidable in equity as per O Neill v Ryan and Intrum Justita


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    Law1997 wrote: »
    Hi it’s the worrier again...

    For Contract, will I pass if I have knowledge of offer & acceptance, consideration, intention to create, estoppel, capacity, terms, duress, mistake, misrep, exclusion clauses, consumer contracts, undue influence, discharge & remedies

    By knowledge I mean I know as much of it as is in my manual but when reading the reports there’s a few nitty gritty bits in problem qs that I don’t have info on, and then she sometimes will ask an entire essay on duty to mitigate loss when it’s such a tiny section in my chapter on remedies.

    Will this get me the pass? I feel like I nearly should have gone outside the manual but no time for that now :( feel like I’m at a disadvantage - my manual is up to date but there’s always something I’m missing.

    The entire course 😹


  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Wtf was that s31 question


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭Law1997


    The entire course 😹

    Sorry?


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Redhighking


    Law1997 wrote: »
    Hi it’s the worrier again...

    For Contract, will I pass if I have knowledge of offer & acceptance, consideration, intention to create, estoppel, capacity, terms, duress, mistake, misrep, exclusion clauses, consumer contracts, undue influence, discharge & remedies

    By knowledge I mean I know as much of it as is in my manual but when reading the reports there’s a few nitty gritty bits in problem qs that I don’t have info on, and then she sometimes will ask an entire essay on duty to mitigate loss when it’s such a tiny section in my chapter on remedies.

    Will this get me the pass? I feel like I nearly should have gone outside the manual but no time for that now :( feel like I’m at a disadvantage - my manual is up to date but there’s always something I’m missing.

    The manual is more then enough and by reading the reports gives you an idea of what the examiner expects. Remember you only need 50 to pass - key cases and relevant legislation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭Law1997


    The manual is more then enough and by reading the reports gives you an idea of what the examiner expects. Remember you only need 50 to pass - key cases and relevant legislation.

    Thank you! 😊


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭LawBoy2018


    Someone kill me plz.. What tf is going on with these exams??


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    CONTRACT

    Can anybody explain the effect of Sections 1 & 2 of the Infant's Relief Act 1874 regarding parties to a contract?!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    CONTRACT

    Can anybody explain the effect of Sections 1 & 2 of the Infant's Relief Act 1874 regarding parties to a contract?!?

    Think it has to do with when a person has attained the age of majority??? Off the top of my head


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Company exam was roooouughhhhh

    Heard he’s a nice marker tho might have scrapped a pass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭ahhhhhFE1s


    Company exam was roooouughhhhh

    Heard he’s a nice marker tho might have scrapped a pass

    What came up ?? Last sitting was grand but sitting before was apparently very tough as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭bobbyness


    CONTRACT

    Can anybody explain the effect of Sections 1 & 2 of the Infant's Relief Act 1874 regarding parties to a contract?!?

    S1 - Contracts for necessaries - Contracts minors enter into are void, unless:

    they can be proven necessary (Chappel v Cooper - Funeral costs a necessary) (Nash v Inmann - Fancy waistcoats not a necessary - Father was able to proof child had adequate clothing and the waistcoats were not a necessary)

    S2 - Don't have cases currently, but I believe it's contract entered into by minors incurring debt (Lent money perhaps) can't be collected and enforced once the child reaches majority.

    Though I'm not 100% on that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Company exam was roooouughhhhh

    Heard he’s a nice marker tho might have scrapped a pass

    I was pretty happy with restriction, directors, realisation of assets, and crystallisation but wasn’t familiar with any of the remaining 3

    I answered the s31 question and just wrote about the primacy of the constitution in relation to directors dutues and share transfer before I ran out of time.

    There’s no evidence of any question like that having appeared before in my sample answers and I haven’t a clue if I’ll get any marks haha fs


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    What did we make of that folks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭ahhhhhFE1s


    bobbyness wrote: »
    S1 - Contracts for necessaries - Contracts minors enter into are void, unless:

    they can be proven necessary (Chappel v Cooper - Funeral costs a necessary) (Nash v Inmann - Fancy waistcoats not a necessary - Father was able to proof child had adequate clothing and the waistcoats were not a necessary)

    S2 - Don't have cases currently, but I believe it's contract entered into by minors incurring debt (Lent money perhaps) can't be collected and enforced once the child reaches majority.

    Though I'm not 100% on that.

    A case for s 2 Marlow v Pitfeild - loans to minors to purchase necessaries are not recoverable at common law – Loans where the minor has already used the money to purchase a necessary may be recoverable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    I was pretty happy with restriction, directors, realisation of assets, and crystallisation but wasn’t familiar with any of the remaining 3

    I answered the s31 question and just wrote about the primacy of the constitution in relation to directors dutues and share transfer before I ran out of time.

    There’s no evidence of any question like that having appeared before in my sample answers and I haven’t a clue if I’ll get any marks haha fs

    Q1 I used LTD v DAC notes and talked a little about UV so actually that should be grand
    Q2. Actually looking at my notes my restriction answer might have been sound
    Q3. Conflicts of interest, my case law was weak here but think I have enough for a pass
    Q4. Unfair Prefs, didn't do
    Q5. Crystallisation of Floating charges - my worst Q, waffled about fixed v floating and characteristics of floating but I had Re JD Brian and talked a bit about winding up and liquidation so might be alright here
    Q6. S.31??????
    Q7. Disqualification, struck off register???
    Q8. Receivership, absolutely nailed this

    On reflection I think I might have actually got the W on this one


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    Onto contract we go...

    Predictions anygone? Any topics due a run?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭Jenosul


    Kellyg248 wrote: »
    Send your email and I will forward to you if you like ...

    Hi all,

    Any predictions for Tort?? Also, I can't get my hands on a tort grid...would appreciate if anyone is willing to share one. Thanks
    [/QUOTE]

    I did it October think employers liability didn’t come up and was expecting it cause it was due so it might this year. Good luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    Anyone think formal and evidentiary requirements and/or illegal contracts are due a run? Trying to cut down but both haven’t been up in a while now...


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    Anyone think formal and evidentiary requirements and/or illegal contracts are due a run? Trying to cut down but both haven’t been up in a while now...

    Not covering them myself anyway! What topics are you focusing on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 JimmyJazzz


    Anyone think formal and evidentiary requirements and/or illegal contracts are due a run? Trying to cut down but both haven’t been up in a while now...

    I've been having this precise dilemma myself. I reckon they're both a risk (insofar as they can be) because as you say they haven't been up in a while. Which though?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    Not covering them myself anyway! What topics are you focusing on?

    Topics that seem to come up more or less every year.... Offer/Acceptance/Consideration/Certainty, misrep, terms, consumer protection and remedies would be my big ones.... I’ll throw in mistake, discharge and exclusion clauses then too! Absolutely terrified!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    JimmyJazzz wrote: »
    I've been having this precise dilemma myself. I reckon they're both a risk (insofar as they can be) because as you say they haven't been up in a while. Which though?!

    I’m just praying both don’t come up!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Racheljen17


    Any predictions for EU Law? I know the last sitting was supposed to have been horrible, so im really nervous!


  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Can anyone at all offer any guidance on the s31 Q in company today? I can’t find anything online even


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    Can anyone at all offer any guidance on the s31 Q in company today? I can’t find anything online even

    Not a clue. Doubt it was a popular question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    Not a clue. Doubt it was a popular question.

    What was the other weird question, the one about the company getting struck off the register?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    What was the other weird question, the one about the company getting struck off the register?

    Yeah that was another weird one. Managed to avoid both thankfully!


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭JCormac


    Any predictions for EU Law? I know the last sitting was supposed to have been horrible, so im really nervous!

    I second this 1000%


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Lawofattracti


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    Not a clue. Doubt it was a popular question.

    Didn't sit the exam this time but this is what I have from last time in my notes!

    'section 31 of the 2014 act provides that the constitution is to bind the company and members as if they had entered into a contract

    with regard to DACs - section 31 will operate as it always has - to make articles and memo binding as between company and shareholders.

    An example of the articles being enforced as between the company and its shareholders is Hickman v Kent Romney Marsh Sheepbreeders where a shareholder brought proceedings against the company - under the articles it stated that if such a dispute arose, it must be first submitted to arbitration. Company invoked - Astbury J found that the articles do create rights and obligations

    An example of s31 being invoked to enforce rights as between shareholders - Lee and Company v Egan: articles contained preemption clauses

    Must be remembered - the rights and duties which can be enforced by or against the members are those conferred or imposed upon them in their capacity as members

    Rights and duties conferred in some other capacity - eg as director - cannot be enforced. - Elley v Positive Government

    Browne v La Trinidad - Director could not rely on the articles of association to secure his tenure as a director

    Although the articles cannot constitute a contract in respect of such ‘outsider rights’ the relevant clauses can be deemed incorporated into some other contract. This is sometimes referred to as a special contract
    Bailey v New SOuth Wales Medical Defence Union: as a member you can enter into contracts with the company that are additional to statutory contract you have already made with it by becoming a member
    also where there is a special contract that is based on company articles - it won’t unilaterally vary even if there is an alteration. facts: Bailey took out cover - company's constitution provided cover would be given. Alterations were made that gave them discretion to refuse comer. Inferred a special contract on the terms of the original constitution'


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭CiaranS93


    Tort

    Vicarious liability

    Can anyone give me a quick summary of Cox v Minster for Justice and Hickey v McGowan?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Sineaddh


    CONTRACT

    running out of time here, would i be better off doing discharge, capacity or terms??


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Lawofattracti


    Sineaddh wrote: »
    CONTRACT

    running out of time here, would i be better off doing discharge, capacity or terms??

    Either discharge or terms


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭law_struggles


    Contract

    Discharge

    What type of questions are asked for discharge and what are the main cases? Thank you :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    Are we covering estoppel for contract?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Can anyone at all offer any guidance on the s31 Q in company today? I can’t find anything online even

    I’d imagine the fact that probably almost no one did it will lie in your favour in terms of picking up marks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    What are people doing for EU? Haven’t looked at it in well over a week


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    Are we covering estoppel for contract?

    Yes


  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭ihatethesea


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    Are we covering estoppel for contract?

    I'm barely touching on promissory estoppel only, so if it comes into a consideration question as a defence to contracts that require fresh consideration, I can write a couple of lines. I have about 7 lines written and one case (High Trees), I might be gambling but I dont have time to cover estoppel fully, just dont want it to screw me over on a solid consideration question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Would I be mad to take the day off study?

    I’ve 3 exams done, EU Friday and Tort Monday left. Honestly could not face looking at notes atm


  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭ihatethesea


    Would I be mad to take the day off study?

    I’ve 3 exams done, EU Friday and Tort Monday left. Honestly could not face looking at notes atm

    3 exams!? Fair play! Id take the evening off and your study tomorrow will be better for it, dont burn out


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    Would I be mad to take the day off study?

    I’ve 3 exams done, EU Friday and Tort Monday left. Honestly could not face looking at notes atm

    As in this evening? No not at all, rest is important too! Leaves you two days then for EU and all weekend for Tort.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Would I be mad to take the day off study?

    I’ve 3 exams done, EU Friday and Tort Monday left. Honestly could not face looking at notes atm

    I’ve done 2 of 4 and have the same 2 as you left to do. I’m under a blanket on the couch, trying to pick something on Netflix haha


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    I'm barely touching on promissory estoppel only, so if it comes into a consideration question as a defence to contracts that require fresh consideration, I can write a couple of lines. I have about 7 lines written and one case (High Trees), I might be gambling but I dont have time to cover estoppel fully, just dont want it to screw me over on a solid consideration question.

    Stick in Kelly v Kelly as an old Irish example to keep em sweet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Breacnua


    Sineaddh wrote: »
    CONTRACT

    running out of time here, would i be better off doing discharge, capacity or terms??

    terms


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Breacnua


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    As in this evening? No not at all, rest is important too! Leaves you two days then for EU and all weekend for Tort.

    get rest and a good nights sleep


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 lawstudentirl


    Any predictions for EU Law? I know the last sitting was supposed to have been horrible, so im really nervous!

    What was horrible about the last paper? Just from looking at the grid I thought it was fairly in line with the usual.


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