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Wrestlemania 2020 - Spoilers, rumours, etc

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭ThePott


    You can't have the likes of Edge, Undertaker and Goldberg wrestle on a WWE show and not have it be called Wrestlemania in 2020.
    I understand your point but whatever you call it people will always know it was meant to be Mania, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. In years to come you want to say these moments were made at Wrestlemania.

    Fans will film reactions on social media and lose their sh1t and WWE will cut them into video packages and they can make it look decent. It's obviously not ideal but it is the superior option in my opinion to postponing or cancelling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,065 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    As odd as it is you have to appreciate WWEs way of putting these events on and giving a little destraction from all the doom and gloom around


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,279 ✭✭✭✭briany


    ThePott wrote: »
    You can't have the likes of Edge, Undertaker and Goldberg wrestle on a WWE show and not have it be called Wrestlemania in 2020.

    I'm sure the Saudis could come up with an alternative name.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭ThePott


    briany wrote: »
    I'm sure the Saudis could come up with an alternative name.
    Fair point, I mean of course money talks but even still, I don't think if Edge was coming back for a run that they'd begin it in KSA. That's a 'Mania' moment and if you want to refer to it over and over again then maybe don't do it on a show you're determined not to remind people about. The Saudi shows are practically non-canon. It's not like people ever acknowledge half the stuff that happens on those shows. That's just money for old rope for WWE.

    Again I know, I'm probably in the minority with my opinion. The fact it will be filmed in multiple locations makes me think it will be bigger than people think too. At least they're doing something different and playing into the weirdness of it. Wrestlemania has to be an event and even without an audience they have plenty of tools and time at their disposal to make this a big and talked about event especially when there are few alternatives right now.

    Trust me, watch the revisionist history in a couple of years when this goes ahead in a few years and WWE talk about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    With the rumours that they were selling mania and other stuff I wonder is it 2 nights one on USA and one on fox as with the virus and nothing on sport wise they may jump at the chance and pay wwe millions to have it on tv


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Considering the (reasonably high) risk of a rassler catching the virus and, as a result, knocking everyone into isolation, I'd have assumed a better approach would have been to have started pre-recording the next few weekly shows, and mania itself, by now.

    Get the wrestlers to bust their humps for a week, this week. Record all the upcoming, necessary footage for the raw/sd!/mania cards, and then let everyone off for the time being. Pay them for the shows they've pre-recorded as though they were live shows and reconvene afterwards. To avoid losing their TV deals, they could get the production team to whip up a 'best of' kind of show each week, or play a DVD from the Network or the likes, to keep content out there.

    At least this way, with everything already recorded, if Edge or Taker or whatever get confirmed for having the virus, the shows can still proceed as planned on their respective dates.

    Just keep the personnel at the arena to the bare minimum, and only trusted people, so there's less chance of results getting out in advance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    As odd as it is you have to appreciate WWEs way of putting these events on and giving a little destraction from all the doom and gloom around

    Seriously?

    They are a business, and they are doing this to continue making money.

    In the process, they are disregarding the advice of all medical professionals in terms of social distancing, thus endangering their wrestlers and by proxy those who know/come across them.

    What is to be admired or appreciated exactly?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Monokne wrote: »
    Seriously?

    They are a business, and they are doing this to continue making money.

    In the process, they are disregarding the advice of all medical professionals in terms of social distancing, thus endangering their wrestlers and by proxy those who know/come across them.

    What is to be admired or appreciated exactly?

    Woah easy tiger, they're not the only company to disregard the advise of their governments, I'm working for one such government. Sure AEW is still trucking away too.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Two nights is something Mania should have been doing anyway. Incorporate Takeover into it, and rather than an 8 hour show, do 2 four hour ones.

    Multiple locations could actually be fun as well. Set them not just in arenas but different sets.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Per WWE.com

    Saturday (April 4th)
    * WWE Championship Match: Drew McIntyre vs. Brock Lesnar
    * NXT Women’s Championship Match: Charlotte Flair vs. Rhea Ripley
    * The Undertaker vs. AJ Styles
    * Kevin Owens vs. Seth Rollins

    Sunday (April 5th)
    * WWE Universal Championship Match: Roman Reigns vs. Bill Goldberg
    * RAW Women’s Championship Match: Shayna Baszler vs. Becky Lynch
    * John Cena vs. “The Fiend” Bray Wyatt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    **** pheasant gets another Mania main event.

    It really should be Brock and Drew. The bigger and better show and more prestigious title, hotter feud, possibility of a much better match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,905 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    The one thing that could've made Goldberg-Reigns interesting was the crowd reaction


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    J. Marston wrote: »
    **** pheasant gets another Mania main event.

    It really should be Brock and Drew. The bigger and better show and more prestigious title, hotter feud, possibility of a much better match.

    Is that not Main Eventing the Sat night Mania?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,384 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Sure the 2 day mania is probably so they can limit the amount of people in the PC to the limit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Is that all the matches that had been announced so far?

    So no smackdown women's title and no tag titles.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Is that all the matches that had been announced so far?

    So no smackdown women's title and no tag titles.

    I imagine that's only the top tier matches. I imagine there will be some undercard matches too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,517 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Edge vs. Orton will surely slot in on the Sunday night to balance things out. I actually quite like the card on paper, I’d rather if everything just stopped for as long as necessary to contain the virus and make a proper show of this when that time comes, but it seems they’re pushing ahead and ignoring the experts on this.

    I’d hope to say that I’ll boycott it like the Saudi shows because of how irresponsible they’re being, but honestly I’m so bored at home that I’ll probably tune in anyway. There’s absolutely nothing “admirable” or such about what they’re doing here though, IMO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Loughc wrote: »
    Woah easy tiger, they're not the only company to disregard the advise of their governments, I'm working for one such government. Sure AEW is still trucking away too.

    AEW deserves just as much criticism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Monokne wrote: »
    AEW deserves just as much criticism.

    Try saying that on Reddit. Oh, it does not go down well.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Try saying that on Reddit. Oh, it does not go down well.

    Or in here :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Taping Mania is the only way they can get it done. They can't wait another 3 weeks and hope their performers and staff avoid the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Sunday will need to be padded out a bit. Can't see the Goldberg or Cena matches going too long


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Sunday will need to be padded out a bit. Can't see the Goldberg or Cena matches going too long

    It's ok they can eat up time with all the usual long entranc...oh wait, they only have 10 feet to walk. Never mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,384 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I mean fair enough the WWE want to go ahead with wrestle mania and if it was any other event you can be damn sure vince would cancel it. WWE are where the NBA are when they planned to keep going and then a player tested positive and that was that. WWE need to pray that nobody involved with the PC shows tests positive because then it's game over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Rock77


    I can’t believe Wrestlmania is going ahead with no fans in attendance. I’m not sure if I’ve heard anything this ludicrous before... I’ve not seen raw or smack down without a crowd but I presume it’s terrible?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Rock77 wrote: »
    I’ve not seen raw or smack down without a crowd but I presume it’s terrible?

    It really is.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,443 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    On one side it would be easy to stop. Maybe they are trying to keep money rolling.

    Do Numbers suggest those who watch the network don't bother with archives, only interested in current product and they fear cancellations?

    Keeping current shows going may help them move produced merch for mania season?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,972 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Bobby Roode is in Canada and there is a travel ban also reading Brock is in home Canadian home.

    https://twitter.com/RealRobertRoode/status/1240736619516362753?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Bobby Roode is in Canada and there is a travel ban also reading Brock is in home Canadian home.

    https://twitter.com/RealRobertRoode/status/1240736619516362753?s=20

    Brock no showing mania would be a great story to leave drews coronation till this goes away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,384 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Bobby Roode is in Canada and there is a travel ban also reading Brock is in home Canadian home.

    https://twitter.com/RealRobertRoode/status/1240736619516362753?s=20

    Well if brock is stuck in Canada then there will be an issue. So if it's Canada the border is closed but, Also not all the wrestlers live in Florida so even driving from where they live to Orlando will be a pain. I think Becky lives/or lived in Los Angeles so if she's not happy flying that's a long way to get back to Florida.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Well if brock is stuck in Canada then there will be an issue. So if it's Canada the border is closed but, Also not all the wrestlers live in Florida so even driving from where they live to Orlando will be a pain. I think Becky lives/or lived in Los Angeles so if she's not happy flying that's a long way to get back to Florida.

    edge said he drove 17 hours to get to raw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,384 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    sky88 wrote: »
    edge said he drove 17 hours to get to raw

    17 hours ? And that's from North Carolina to Florida. Imagine LA to Orlando. It'd make the drives in mid south wrestling in the day look like a Sunday drive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


    I think you can cross the border for employment, or last time I checked anyway.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Well if brock is stuck in Canada then there will be an issue. So if it's Canada the border is closed but, Also not all the wrestlers live in Florida so even driving from where they live to Orlando will be a pain. I think Becky lives/or lived in Los Angeles so if she's not happy flying that's a long way to get back to Florida.

    Brock is a US citizen so he should be able to get in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Vince will always find a way to make money

    https://twitter.com/ESPNPR/status/1241056988181774339?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,972 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    ESPN needs something to fill airtime. Since they can’t air XFL I’d say Vince is keeping in with them by doing that deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    ESPN needs something to fill airtime. Since they can’t air XFL I’d say Vince is keeping in with them by doing that deal.

    first steps to the ppvs being on espn+ i feel as was rumored


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=134914

    So apparently they will be taping the Raw AFTER Mania on Tuesday before taping both nights of Mania. What a bizarre situation.

    I wonder will they be able to keep the results under wraps, even with a skeleton crew.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,384 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    J. Marston wrote: »
    https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=134914

    So apparently they will be taping the Raw AFTER Mania on Tuesday before taping both nights of Mania. What a bizarre situation.

    I wonder will they be able to keep the results under wraps, even with a skeleton crew.

    Very bizzare and I doubt they will keep it all under wraps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Very bizzare and I doubt they will keep it all under wraps.


    Keep an eye on the results and see if the bookies can be caught :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Maybe they need to leak misinformation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    They might tape two finishes also to throw people off.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    J. Marston wrote: »
    https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=134914

    So apparently they will be taping the Raw AFTER Mania on Tuesday before taping both nights of Mania. What a bizarre situation.

    I wonder will they be able to keep the results under wraps, even with a skeleton crew.

    This schedule makes more sense.

    https://rajah.com/node/wwes-planned-taping-schedule-over-next-week-revealed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,972 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    So Wrestlemania is going to be tapped as well and not go out live.
    Saturday, March 21 - Taping for WWE Friday Night Smackdown, episodes to air 3/27 and 4/3


    Sunday, March 22 - Taping content for future NXT shows


    Monday, March 23 - Taping for WWE Monday Night Raw, episode to air 3/23


    Tuesday, March 24 - Taping for WWE Monday Night Raw, episode to air 3/30


    Wednesday, March 25 - Taping for WrestleMania 36, Night One to air on 4/4


    Thursday, March 26 - Taping for WrestleMania 36, Night Two to air on 4/5


    I guess that gives them time to heavily edit and play around with it to fill it out.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    So Wrestlemania is going to be tapped as well and not go out live.




    I guess that gives them time to heavily edit and play around with it to fill it out.

    Night one will include the men’s 2020 rumble match in full. Again.



    Again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭Chuck Noland


    The sad part is we’ll probably all watch due to been on house arrest.... i mean social isolation 😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,053 ✭✭✭✭cena


    is mainia going to the Saturday and Sunday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭Chuck Noland


    cena wrote: »
    is mainia going to the Saturday and Sunday

    Yes


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