Dublin Racing Festival 2020

tipptom

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Her price is astonishing and I think at some point an honest proper debate has to be had about Laurina.

We need to talk about Laurina.

I sat and watched last year when she was proclaimed the second coming and every second person felt she was going to "hose up" in the champion hurdle. Did she phuck.

She jumped like a buck around Gowran first time out, beat Minello Indo and I reckon a future Irish National winner, all good.

But I am beginning to question what she has actually achieved. I am beginning to become very suspicious about the mares novice race a Cheltenham. I think it is basically a throw in for young mares and I am going forward excluding it from my formbook. I think young mares are clueless, the race is essentially a pin job, look at the prices of last years winner and runner up.

Today is the acid test for Laurina. I am frankly astonished at her price and find it puzzling that she has been sent to Sandown. I am going against her and have dutched Itchy Feet and Grand Sancy. The main reason being that given her undeniable hype she should be even money. It is a massive head scratcher for me.

9/4 now.
She may well win that bad race but a Mullins drifting like that?
Would anybody who wanted to win money take a chance on a horse that bled last time out?
Rather take an ew chance on the other Irish runner today at Mussleburgh,My Manekino at 12/1.

IAMAMORON

tipptom wrote: »

9/4 now.
She may well win that bad race but a Mullins drifting like that?
Would anybody who wanted to win money take a chance on a horse that bled last time out?
Rather take an ew chance on the other Irish runner today at Mussleburgh,My Manekino at 12/1.

Lovely shout. I like it.

I have backed 2 in the county hurdle at 2.05. Groveman and Kaizer looks overpriced.

Francie Barrett

aidankkk wrote: »

‪3:45 leop‬

‪There nothing more I like than backing a horse at a huge price that has been gambled on before with no success . Minds Eye has always preferred decent ground and if he hasn’t lost it completely 50/1 might look value ‬

‪1 pt ew 6 places sky 50/1 5 places others ‬

Snap, the extra places give this one huge value.

Francie Barrett

Sand 2:25 Laurina surely far too big at 9/4 going up against novices that should be a grade below it.

longshotvalue

‪3:00 sand‬

‪Not sure why soft ground needing dour stayer Clondaw Cian is the outsider of the field here . He even has a reasonable record fresh and some good runs in France . He’s also on a good mark .‬

‪1 point ew 5 places 66/1 . ‬

stretchaq

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Sand 2:25 Laurina surely far too big at 9/4 going up against novices that should be a grade below it.

Think itchy feet has a great chance

maximo31

A Plus Tard NR. change in going.

WicklowBravee

maximo31 wrote: »

A Plus Tard NR. change in going.

Honeysuckle be next I’d say.

Slattsy

Honeysuckle bubble will be burst today I reckon.

On the ground Sharjah could take the beating. No bet for me mind.

I've backed Fury Road for the AB. Hopefully he pisses in now!

MaxBet

2.35 -
PALOMA BLUE 6/1 Boyles

piplip87

Why can't they water the track tonight ? Jaysus soft ground is needed

IAMAMORON

Good man Paul Nolan.

Slattsy

Happy with that from Fury Road. The AB made for him.

Well done Cooper, fair play to him.

MaxBet

Slattsy wrote: »

Happy with that from Fury Road. The AB made for him.

Well done Cooper, fair play to him.

Agree re Cooper , looked strong

Not too sure about Fury Roads run though

MaxBet

3.45 -

MISTER BLUE SKY 40/1 bet365
EGLANTINE DU SEUIL 33/1 bet365

STB.

Nolan would have been sick if Jim Mernagh had taken the money. They wanted to keep him after turning down JP.


A Plus Tard out of the next. Dissapointing.

BumperD

Jury out on Fury Road but cameraman caught a glimpse of Elliott next to Paul Nolan after race and he didn’t seem bothered. Having said that he’d need to take a big step forward to trouble the 3 ahead of him plus the English he’s also drifted in the ap market. Liked latest exhibition he knucked down and got the job done that’s exactly what you want to see, his form also stacks up better than Fury Road so I’d be siding with him in March

IAMAMORON

I am backing Cilaos Emery in this.

It looks like I am not the only one.

@18s

Duc Des Genievres @18s. Interest bet.

IAMAMORON

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I am backing Cilaos Emery in this.

It looks like I am not the only one.

well phuck that.

posturingpat

Good performance but the English won't be losing sleep in my opinion.

BumperD

Yeah that didn’t look great Chacuns jumping wasn’t clean as you’d like for a 2m champion chaser

akelly02

Defi won’t lose any sleep

The Jman

aidankkk wrote: »

1:25 leop.

Everything has its price and Ornua has a great record on decent ground . There have been bigger shocks in this race than a former grade 1 winner getting involved .

Obviously Min wins but still Can’t resist a 3 figure price

1 pt ew 150/1 paddy/betfair/vC .

Good pick aidan, 2.50ew returned 62.50!!

STB.

akelly02 wrote: »

Defi won’t lose any sleep

A Plus Tard will do both of them.

Francie Barrett

The Jman wrote: »

Good pick aidan, 2.50ew returned 62.50!!

How? There was a non runner so in a field of 7 you only get two places.

maximo31

Fakir out.

yaboya1

The Jman wrote: »

Good pick aidan, 2.50ew returned 62.50!!

Horse was unplaced.

longshotvalue

yaboya1 wrote: »

Horse was unplaced.

Horse was 3rd paying 3 places. Betfair and paddy Still paid 3 fair play to then ;-)

STB.

maximo31 wrote: »

Fakir out.

Becoming a bit of a joke at this stage. Leop are going to get some stick.

yaboya1

aidankkk wrote: »

Horse was 3rd paying 3 places. Betfair and paddy Still paid 3 fair play to then ;-)

Massive rule 4 so.
Any comment on Min getting beaten?

carq

Nice one aidankkk

Ornua crept in to third!

BoroMan32

STB. wrote: »

Becoming a bit of a joke at this stage. Leop are going to get some stick.

Obviously learned fk all from last year.

BumperD

If they have left the ground become unraceable once again for many someone needs to be sacked

Slattsy

I'd still take on CPS at Cheltenham

STB.

BoroMan32 wrote: »

Obviously learned fk all from last year.

Will be fast by the end of the day


Watch there will be more. And then they'll panic this evening and water heavily.

BumperD

Maybe Simon Claise can pop over and give them a few lessons

IAMAMORON

BumperD wrote: »

If they have left the ground become unraceable once again for many someone needs to be sacked

STB. wrote: »

Will be fast by the end of the day


Watch there will be more. And then they'll panic this evening and water heavily.

I live locally and they are kind of unlucky. Yesterday was a lovely day but it got really windy last night. It must have dried it right out.

They should start watering straight after for tomorrow.

It is frustrating for punters but I think the trainers need to chin up as well. A lot of them go into this weekend with their focus on Cheltenham. A plus Tard was easy enough to back all week, you have to think the stable staff weren't arsed and half knew.

The worst was Klassical Dream. I think there is a massive run in this horse and he sat at 7/2 all week, didn't budge an inch. They only went NRNB on Thursday at 11 am. ****. The bookies were not taking any chances here , at all.

yaboya1

yaboya1 wrote: »

Massive rule 4 so.
Any comment on Min getting beaten?

Not so quick to reply to this one.

Any chance of giving up the "x just wins" comments? Yourself and Roger have a terrible habit of doing it regularly (can't remember the last time either of you got one right tbh).

Why not just say it's your opinion instead of stating it as fact? We all get it wrong a lot of the time No shame in it. Stating it as fact and getting it wrong the vast majority of the time just makes it more embarrassing and as we've all seen, that's usually the case despite your claims of never tipping losers below 4/1.

I await my imminent attack and ban, which seems to be the fate of anyone who calls out this bs.

BumperD

Unlucky once but not 3 years in a row, sorry but someone should be sacked

posturingpat

What a race there. Cashback the one for me for future. He has a lot more room for improvement.
Blackmore is class.

Blackmore is the best in the business.

posturingpat

yaboya1 wrote: »

Not so quick to reply to this one.

Any chance of giving up the "x just wins" comments? Yourself and Roger have a terrible habit of doing it regularly (can't remember the last time either of you got one right tbh).

Why not just say it's your opinion instead of stating it as fact? We all get it wrong a lot of the time No shame in it. Stating it as fact and getting it wrong the vast majority of the time just makes it more embarrassing and as we've all seen, that's usually the case despite your claims of never tipping losers below 4/1.

I await my imminent attack and ban, which seems to be the fate of anyone who calls out this bs.

Nothing irks me more than that kind of talk "will win" "cert" etc is just pure bull talk.

BumperD

They have the arkle between them

yaboya1

posturingpat wrote: »

Nothing irks me more than that kind of talk "will win" "cert" etc is just pure bull talk.

That's exactly the point I'm trying to make.
It's very annoying, especially when the guilty parties almost always get it wrong.

BumperD

Thought the novices jumped better than the champion chase contenders to be quite frank

BumperD

4 seconds slower than the earlier 2 mile race that Chacun won but they jumped brilliantly for Novices arkle should be Ireland’s

Francie Barrett

Wonder is this the end for Laurina. Awful.

BumperD

Laurina has really taken a slide backwards

posturingpat

Laurina woeful over in Sandown. That's her for the season I suspect.