Saoirse McHugh Confused?

charlie14

Nijmegen wrote: »

She’s basically an anarchic socialist. Says herself her ideal world is one where we return to local communities in self supporting environments with less / no industrialisation. Better for the planet, better for the soul and all that.

The Green Party has this fight internally between its fringe elements of various stripes and the practical get on with it Greens. Naturally she’s on one side of that debate.

She’s engaging (and actually quite funny at times in the way she’ll talk about things) and in fairness honest. A polished politician will squeeze out of a corner when asked something they don’t know, the honest ones look like they’re not informed rather than slippy. Take your pick.

If McHugh is typical of Green Party candidates then Brendan Behan`s quote of the first item on the agenda being the split may not just be confined to republicans.,

Finty Lemon

Cull her with the sucklers Eamonn

gmisk

Dravokivich wrote: »

You're just arguing that the same thing could have been said with different words, but becuase it wasnt said how youd like to see it, its sexist?

You can be critical of someone without using sexist words.... revolutionary!

gmisk

Ronin247 wrote: »

I am not seeing how calling someone an "airhead" would be sexist!! Are you implying that airhead is gender specific?

Of course it is almost entirely associated with women when is the last time you heard a man called an airhead let alone a politician?

Rothko

gmisk wrote: »

Of course it is almost entirely associated with women when is the last time you heard a man called an airhead let alone a politician?

johnmcdnl

macapaca wrote: »

After watching her there I'd say she'll muster up about 14 votes in the election God love her.

She will be 'that one green that isn't as bad as the rest' which is really as good a position you can hope for as a green candidate in a rural constituteucy.

Arghus

bfa1509 wrote: »

It is bizarre the amount of airtime that airhead gets. She was in one of the big RTE debates before the european elections as well where she also made an ass of herself.

Nope. She did quite well in that debate. She definitely got the most favourable press after it, she hurt Peter Casey quite a bit on the night and helped to torpedo his efforts at getting a seat

But her performance on Prime Time tonight was a bit of a disaster.

gmisk

Rothko wrote: »

So 1994, 26 years ago a film and not directed at a male politician..

Ulysses Gaze

She's right about the carbon tax.

It's a waste of time and just generates money that will be pissed away by the Government, any Government, that gets into power on everything but "Green" projects.

Dravokivich

gmisk wrote: »

Of course it is almost entirely associated with women when is the last time you heard a man called an airhead let alone a politician?

Check out a movie called Airheads.

gmisk

Dravokivich wrote: »

Check out a movie called Airheads.

Maybe read the rest of the thread....26 years ago...come on now

cutelad

I'm anything but a green, but heck I'd give her a tick of some sort. She reflects reality, come up with proper solutions for retrofitting etc so people have an option. Not just lump another tax on. Greens don't stand a chance in rural Ireland as they don't understand the people. Dear god listeni g to Eamon Ryan talk about cutting the herd and planting trees is painful. Integration of wolves, car pooling all from a man from leafy Dundrum

_Brian

You have to admire someone who is such an idealist, however she has no intention of ever being in a government. So a vote for her is a wasted vote, why would anyone vote for a politician who i doesn’t want to be in government.

The greens could and should be something decent in Ireland, but instead they turned out to be our version of the U.K. raving loonatic party. Their visions for rural Ireland are like something out of the wizard of oz, imagine they are more feared in rural Ireland than FFG

Annasopra

She must be doing something right to get all this attention.

Eric Cartman

Mchugh is a pbp level socialist using the climate chamge deal to push her agenda, has a column every two weeks in thejournal and its the usual moderate to far left talking points with ‘because the environmemt’ at the end

Fann Linn

Someone called her an airhead and now that's sexist. I think that's the problem. They'll be bringing in the race card next as she's a woman of colour!

Uriel.

That was a bit of a car crash performance. She's either in the green party or she's not. Whether anyone thinks the positions are right or wrong, the Greens have set out a number of key policy positions and she doesn't seem to agree with a chunk of them. It was an amateur hour performance and its amateur hour from Eamon Ryan to have her on the ticket.

Eric Cartman

Fann Linn wrote: »

Someone called her an airhead and now that's sexist. I think that's the problem. They'll be bringing in the race card next as she's a woman of colour!

Watermelon, green with a bright red inside

Dravokivich

gmisk wrote: »

Maybe read the rest of the thread....26 years ago...come on now

It shows you that if you were to typically assign a gender to the phrase, it's historically associated with a men!

Amirani

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

She must be doing something right to get all this attention.

Catherine Noone got lots of attention yesterday, and Paddy Holohan got lots a week or so ago. Were they doing something right as well?

Generally the media will pay a bit more attention to you if you make a tit of yourself, shouldn't take it as an indication that you're doing something right.

is_that_so

McHugh is young and thinks speaking her mind is the way to go. She was no different in the Euros, producing lots of bitesized quotes for the media to lap up, many of which were hard-core environmental militancy. They might be the kind of things wiser Green heads would think but would not say.

Abel Ruiz

gmisk wrote: »

So 1994, 26 years ago a film and not directed at a male politician..

You're wrong, just admit it. And we can move on.

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

She must be doing something right to get all this attention.

Like Peter Casey?

Fr_Dougal

I liked her honesty, but she’s totally out of sync with the Greens.

FTA69

McHugh is undoubtedly a big attraction for many young people wound up with the current state of affairs. She's young, she's smart, she's not a conventional political hack and she speaks well on climate issues that many young people prioritise but at the end of the day, she's a bit watery and that's becoming more and more transparent by the day.

The last time the Greens were in power they were part of a brutal austerity government who fully supported the economic status quo in Ireland. Their grand schemes to halt climate change seems to be less about challenging the existing order and more about taxing Johnny who has to drive to work and shouting at people for going to Marbella in the summer or using clingfilm. It's painfully obvious their goal is to prop up one of the main parties so they get to change little else but annoy us about plastic bags or some sh*te.

McHugh can't hunt with the hounds and then run with the hare, if she remains with the Greens going into coalition then she's as complicit with establishment politics as anyone. I'm not massively impressed with her.

seamus

I like McHugh, she's honest and transparent. Perhaps naively as young people tend to be, but I'd rather our politicians were more transparent like this instead of constantly searching for the "acceptable" answer.

Maybe she needs a little bit more coaching about "message". I see no issue with her being a member of the Greens and not personally supporting a carbon tax. The issue in that interview was her decision to continue talking about how she personally feels about it, instead of discussing the party policy, which is really what she was being asked.

Now, maybe that was the whole plan, because then she goes on to discuss the "rural greens". So perhaps the intention there was to present themselves as a more palatable option for rural people - especially given that FF are losing ground in rural areas. And it's not the first time in the last week I've heard a Green talking about rural-specific issues in a way that shows that they're not just rural-hating urbanites.

FTA69

Yeah I should also say that despite my concerns about her I'd prefer her by a country mile over some f*cking FG or FF hack in a suit like Lowry or one of those cretins.

Annasopra

Amirani wrote: »

Catherine Noone got lots of attention yesterday, and Paddy Holohan got lots a week or so ago. Were they doing something right as well?

Generally the media will pay a bit more attention to you if you make a tit of yourself, shouldn't take it as an indication that you're doing something right.

Depends on the kind of atttention though.

is_that_so

FTA69 wrote: »

McHugh is undoubtedly a big attraction for many young people wound up with the current state of affairs. She's young, she's smart, she's not a conventional political hack and she speaks well on climate issues that many young people prioritise but at the end of the day, she's a bit watery and that's becoming more and more transparent by the day.

The last time the Greens were in power they were part of a brutal austerity government who fully supported the economic status quo in Ireland. Their grand schemes to halt climate change seems to be less about challenging the existing order and more about taxing Johnny who has to drive to work and shouting at people for going to Marbella in the summer or using clingfilm. It's painfully obvious their goal is to prop up one of the main parties so they get to change little else but annoy us about plastic bags or some sh*te.

McHugh can't hunt with the hounds and then run with the hare, if she remains with the Greens going into coalition then she's as complicit with establishment politics as anyone. I'm not massively impressed with her.

The Greens will have an easier time of it now as everyone is on board with the need for climate change policy and going into government will not be the same disappointment as 2007. Some of what they are looking for will have to be parked and some watered down a bit but I reckon they will get the poisoned chalice of housing or their preferred portfolio of Environment in government. As for McHugh, it's that broad church thing all parties run with, and someone who will be tolerated until they start defying the whip.

RandomViewer

gmisk wrote: »

Calling someone an airhead is sexist and demeaning imo as I said, call her out of her depth and useless fine she clearly is as I said.
That would be equality, get used to what?!
I watched it...did Miriam call her an airhead like you? Nope, so why would she be sexist?

People call Boris an airhead, how is it sexist. The film "AIRHEADS" fron the early 90's the dim characters were all male, Do Green party activists do any research ?

Tenzor07

I watched PT last night, absolute car crash interview from Ms. McHugh..

She was caught out badly by Miriam, and became almost totally tongue tied, flying by the seat of her pants completely. If this was a job interview and the candidate was caught out so badly, would you employ her?

I think she just ended any hope of being elected, would the people in her constituency really want to elect a representative like this?

If she can't be trusted to stand by the policies of her own party, how are the people supposed to trust her?


Would love to hear the opinions of those in the constituency she's standing in?