NCT discontinue lift inspections (now with places with working lifts)

odyssey06 · 28-03-2020 9:27pm

maestroamado wrote: »

I suspect there be legal reasons why the test cannot be re-introduced, the whole legality of having an incomplete test and re-introduction of same?
Its kinda per school stuff. Also if tests suspended unlikely new test can be backdated.
I thought he was writing a book, a few more pages. Is he still a TD/Minister i thought he lost.

Ross, Zappone Doherty et al are no longer TDs but are still the executive ministers until they are replaced ... it's a bit like tag you're it.

maestroamado · 28-03-2020 9:38pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

Ross, Zappone Doherty et al are no longer TDs but are still the executive ministers until they are replaced ... it's a bit like tag you're it.

Jesus i think we are all goin to dye, were ****ed. Bring back Bertie, cash is king...

macplaxton · 28-03-2020 10:17pm

Kivaro wrote: »

As I mentioned elsewhere; How come the Brits shut down their MOT centres for 6 months? .

They didn't.

They did do a 6 month extension. Not the same thing.

sligojoek · 28-03-2020 10:45pm

Reporter on RTE news just now said NCT tests suspended for forseeable future.

wonski · 28-03-2020 10:49pm

Only sensible decision.

With the traffic limited to essential journeys etc it shouldn't be a big issue now.

It will become issue when things go back to normal with backlogs of tests, but let's worry about it later.

Keep Gardaí on the lookout for some dodgy cars and drivers on the road and it will be fine for a while.

maestroamado · 28-03-2020 10:53pm

sligojoek wrote: »

Reporter on RTE news just now said NCT tests suspended for forseeable future.

So when tested will nit be backdated, it be difficult to explain that but likely blame Ross as he be gone.
He did same thing for FAI during election campaign and no-one noticed...

elperello · 28-03-2020 10:55pm

Nothing in his life (as a Minister) became him as much as his leaving of it.

Kivaro · 28-03-2020 10:56pm

macplaxton wrote: »

They didn't.

They did do a 6 month extension. Not the same thing.

Of course not.
Is it really a material difference though?
No need to respond, as I believe you knew the intent of my statement.

Water John · 28-03-2020 10:57pm

His constituents noticed he was a tosser.

Odyssey 2005 · 28-03-2020 11:02pm

Water John wrote: »

His constituents noticed he was a tosser.

It took them WAY too long !!. Hes been s tosser for many many years.

maestroamado · 28-03-2020 11:53pm

wonski wrote: »

Only sensible decision.

With the traffic limited to essential journeys etc it shouldn't be a big issue now.

It will become issue when things go back to normal with backlogs of tests, but let's worry about it later.

Keep Gardaí on the lookout for some dodgy cars and drivers on the road and it will be fine for a while.

Strictly speaking from Gardai any car on the road without a valid NCT is dodgy as that is an offence, it's just a dodgy patch-up job by RSA.
I cannot see the test being re-introduced unless it be full test.
I expect huge rush of lifts being fitted in coming weeks...

sligojoek · 29-03-2020 12:14am

I reckon in the current climate as long as your NCT didn't run out last year they're not going to make too much of a fuss about it.

29-03-2020 12:23am

sligojoek wrote: »

I reckon in the current climate as long as your NCT didn't run out last year they're not going to make too much of a fuss about it.

On the contrary, seen as they havent been given any powers of detainment in relation to the "lockdown", i reckon if you're acting the bollocks out and about, they'll use the lack of an NCT (where applicable) to nail you to the wall and take the car as a punishment for going against the govt. advice.

sligojoek · 29-03-2020 12:32am

Deleted User wrote: »

On the contrary, seen as they havent been given any powers of detainment in relation to the "lockdown", i reckon if you're acting the bollocks out and about, they'll use the lack of an NCT (where applicable) to nail you to the wall and take the car as a punishment for going against the govt. advice.

I know what you mean but you'd really have to be acting the bo££ox for that to happen.

. I'm still due the lift test and have the partial cert in a folder with receipts for wishbone bushings, track rod ends, pads and shoes. Receipts for the work and 4 new tyres. Can't do any more than that.

macplaxton · 29-03-2020 2:47am

Kivaro wrote: »

Of course not.
Is it really a material difference though?
No need to respond, as I believe you knew the intent of my statement.

Yes, as they kept the garages open and not on an emergency call-out basis (so far).

Besides, the minister in question announce extension on the 25th March, but commences on 30th. If MOT expires 29th or before, you still have to get one. That is half-arsed.

It's a bit disingenuous to suggest they closed the lot down when they quite clearly haven't.

sligojoek · 29-03-2020 3:06am

macplaxton wrote: »

Yes, as they kept the garages open and not on an emergency call-out basis (so far).

Besides, the minister in question announce extension on the 25th March, but commences on 30th. If MOT expires 29th or before, you still have to get one. That is half-arsed.

It's a bit disingenuous to suggest they closed the lot down when they quite clearly haven't.

The minister in question should ride off into the sunset with his pension and hand the job over to someone who cares and knows what they're doing.

Odyssey 2005 · 29-03-2020 5:30am

sligojoek wrote: »

I know what you mean but you'd really have to be acting the bo££ox for that to happen.

. I'm still due the lift test and have the partial cert in a folder with receipts for wishbone bushings, track rod ends, pads and shoes. Receipts for the work and 4 new tyres. Can't do any more than that.

SJ,I posted this on another nct thread here yesterday. An interesting development, maybe sinister ross needs to have a word with the insurance companies !

A good pal of mine has a lend of a car I own. Hes had it first a couple of weeks,yester6he called his insurance co to extend his temporary cover. Insurance co refused because there is no test on the car. The car passed the partial test about 4 weeks ago,since then its original test has expired( they had no issue insuring it then) and it would appear its uninsurable,at least with his company.

Personally I'd have kicked up stink

maestroamado · 29-03-2020 10:26am

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

SJ,I posted this on another nct thread here yesterday. An interesting development, maybe sinister ross needs to have a word with the insurance companies !

A good pal of mine has a lend of a car I own. Hes had it first a couple of weeks,yester6he called his insurance co to extend his temporary cover. Insurance co refused because there is no test on the car. The car passed the partial test about 4 weeks ago,since then its original test has expired( they had no issue insuring it then) and it would appear its uninsurable,at least with his company.

Personally I'd have kicked up stink

I expect this is because he is not the car owner, i expect if he owned the car they would have to insure.

maestroamado · 29-03-2020 10:29am

sligojoek wrote: »

The minister in question should ride off into the sunset with his pension and hand the job over to someone who cares and knows what they're doing.

The only time i meet a politician who "cares" is around election time.

wonski · 29-03-2020 11:22am

maestroamado wrote: »

I expect this is because he is not the car owner, i expect if he owned the car they would have to insure.

There was always a problem with extending temporary cover on a car not owned etc. At least I always had to fight with insurers about this.

Odyssey 2005 · 29-03-2020 4:09pm

wonski wrote: »

There was always a problem with extending temporary cover on a car not owned etc. At least I always had to fight with insurers about this.

To be honest I've never had an issue either extending or cutting a period of insurance on a loan vehicle. I think they are being knuts about this,either the car is tested ir it's not. It was brought in for test about 3 weeks before the expiry of its curren(at the time) cert. It passed their test(as much as they could test anywey) but the ins co wont accept this. Now the centres are closed for prob 3 weeks.

honda boi · 29-03-2020 4:50pm

Bought a car in February with no nct since Oct 2019 passed first part of test in February.
Dealer I bought it off had work done to it to make sure it passes,said if it fails anything on lift test he'd fix it.
But now theres no hope of getting a test for awhile now.
Have the half pass sheet in the car. Nothing else I can do, have called and emailed about a lift test the past few weeks and got no where.

beauf · 29-03-2020 5:13pm

For a text cancelling test. I assume everyone did.

They finally figured out how to do it.

sligojoek · 29-03-2020 6:29pm

Ya. Just got a text there as well.

Psychedelic Hedgehog · 29-03-2020 7:17pm

Same here. Quite relieved if I'm honest.

wonski · 29-03-2020 11:15pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

To be honest I've never had an issue either extending or cutting a period of insurance on a loan vehicle. I think they are being knuts about this,either the car is tested ir it's not. It was brought in for test about 3 weeks before the expiry of its curren(at the time) cert. It passed their test(as much as they could test anywey) but the ins co wont accept this. Now the centres are closed for prob 3 weeks.

I totally understand your frustration over this.

Shouldn't be penalised for something completely out of your control. Especially when there was an effort to get it done in time.

I always have it done a bit earlier to allow time for repairs, parts etc, this year didn't even bother.

Terrible timing for all this...

Psychedelic Hedgehog · 30-03-2020 1:06am

wonski wrote: »

I always have it done a bit earlier to allow time for repairs, parts etc, this year didn't even bother

Same here. NCT expiry was a couple of days ago, but had it booked in for early Feb to get it done early - lift issue became public and incomplete inspections became a thing a week before that appointment.

I threw it in anyway just to have the 'test incomplete' report, and was hanging back to book the lift inspection to see if our local centre would open. I booked a mainstream one at the start of the month when it became apparent that wasn't going to happen, then Covid-19 threw a metaphorical spanner in the works...

HanFiredFirst · 30-03-2020 3:36am

Maybe now it is closed to the public they can get all the centers still waiting for lifts to be replaced done. If not there still could be a 6 week wait when it reopens for those waiting on the lift part of the test.

Odyssey 2005 · 30-03-2020 7:30am

HanFiredFirst wrote: »

Maybe now it is closed to the public they can get all the centers still waiting for lifts to be replaced done. If not there still could be a 6 week wait when it reopens for those waiting on the lift part of the test.

I'd say the problem with that is supply chain. Lifts not being manufactured transported or fitted.

Tow · 30-03-2020 7:39am

Twice they have cancelled me. What are my chances of a free test?

https://www.ncts.ie/1179

4. Ensure that the average lead time for an appointment at an individual test centre is less than three weeks and no greater than four weeks. The customer will be provided with a test free of charge where an appointment cannot be offered within a four week period provided that:

The test is not overdue by more than 7 days at the time of contacting NCTS

An appointment has not been offered at least 1 week prior to the test due date

The customer has not made specific requests regarding suitable days, times or dates

The customer has not declined or rearranged two or more appointments

The customer has not failed to attend an appointment

The customer has not previously accepted or requested an appointment outside of the four week period

The points noted above only apply when an appointment has not been offered within four weeks. There is no guarantee of a test appointment at short notice for cars overdue the test.

maestroamado · 30-03-2020 10:47am

HanFiredFirst wrote: »

Maybe now it is closed to the public they can get all the centers still waiting for lifts to be replaced done. If not there still could be a 6 week wait when it reopens for those waiting on the lift part of the test.

I am half expecting that the centers will not re-open until this is fixed.
Not sure Minister will want to re-introduce half-test.

marcos_94 · 30-03-2020 10:55am

honda boi wrote: »

Bought a car in February with no nct since Oct 2019 passed first part of test in February.
Dealer I bought it off had work done to it to make sure it passes,said if it fails anything on lift test he'd fix it.
But now theres no hope of getting a test for awhile now.
Have the half pass sheet in the car. Nothing else I can do, have called and emailed about a lift test the past few weeks and got no where.

Im in a similar situation bought a car thats NCT expired September 2019, got it through the first half of the test a couple of weeks ago and booked it in for lift inspection local to me for the 12th April. Thats been cancelled now and I cant get an insurance policy on the car until its passed the NCT

maestroamado · 30-03-2020 11:14am

marcos_94 wrote: »

Im in a similar situation bought a car thats NCT expired September 2019, got it through the first half of the test a couple of weeks ago and booked it in for lift inspection local to me for the 12th April. Thats been cancelled now and I cant get an insurance policy on the car until its passed the NCT

Can i ask how did you have insurance for first part of test...

marcos_94 · 30-03-2020 12:07pm

maestroamado wrote: »

Can i ask how did you have insurance for first part of test...

I didnt, I got a friend whos policy covers him to drive any car to collect the car with me when I bought it, and then bring the car to the NCT centre for the first part. Its now declared off the road until I get the NCT sorted.

Pops_20 · 30-03-2020 2:47pm

maestroamado wrote: »

I am half expecting that the centers will not re-open until this is fixed.
Not sure Minister will want to re-introduce half-test.

Where does that leave the people who have passed the first part of the test and are just waiting on the lift inspection?

If it takes 6 weeks for all this to blow over, will they make us to a full test again?

Roberto_gas · 30-03-2020 2:48pm

What happens to money taken from card for cancellation ? Will it be refunded ?

Odyssey 2005 · 30-03-2020 3:49pm

maestroamado wrote: »

I am half expecting that the centers will not re-open until this is fixed.
Not sure Minister will want to re-introduce half-test.

You give the minister

WAY too much credit.

Psychedelic Hedgehog · 30-03-2020 4:22pm

Pops_20 wrote: »

Where does that leave the people who have passed the first part of the test and are just waiting on the lift inspection?

If it takes 6 weeks for all this to blow over, will they make us to a full test again?

When I booked my lift inspection, more than 28 days had elapsed and so I had to call NCTS to get my booking. It was going to be just the lift inspection, and no charge.

vw4life · 30-03-2020 4:25pm

Roberto_gas wrote: »

What happens to money taken from card for cancellation ? Will it be refunded ?

No payment is taken until vehicle check in at the time of the test

maestroamado · 30-03-2020 4:30pm

This is going to be an administeritive mess.
Half test will have to be retested completely
Then there are the cars need testing.
It will take months.

maestroamado · 30-03-2020 4:36pm

honda boi wrote: »

Bought a car in February with no nct since Oct 2019 passed first part of test in February.
Dealer I bought it off had work done to it to make sure it passes,said if it fails anything on lift test he'd fix it.
But now theres no hope of getting a test for awhile now.
Have the half pass sheet in the car. Nothing else I can do, have called and emailed about a lift test the past few weeks and got no where.

Your in a tough spot.
I do not think the dealer should have sold you a car that you cannot insure.
I remember years ago wanting to buy a car from a garage.
They would not let the car leave until a insurance cert was produced.
I would have a chat with the garage, i think they should help you.

Avns1s · 30-03-2020 7:58pm

vw4life wrote: »

No payment is taken until vehicle check in at the time of the test

I had the first part of the test done and passed with not problem. I booked the "retest" - underbody test online in a different centre within the 30 days.
Turned up and tester confirmed that there was no charge but 3 days later I discovered that a retest fee of €28 was taken from my card.

I emailed them and got a read receipt but no refund!!

They seem to be in total mess!

FFVII · 30-03-2020 8:11pm

Avns1s wrote: »

I had the first part of the test done and passed with not problem. I booked the "retest" - underbody test online in a different centre within the 30 days.
Turned up and tester confirmed that there was no charge but 3 days later I discovered that a retest fee of €28 was taken from my card.

I emailed them and got a read receipt but no refund!!

They seem to be in total mess!

That doesn't sound like a mess to me.

They hoped you wouldn't notice, you did and now the hoop jumping begins.

Agent Coulson · 30-03-2020 8:13pm

FFVII wrote: »

That doesn't sound like a mess to me.

They hoped you wouldn't notice, you did and now the hoop jumping begins.

So they stole from him hoping he wouldn't notice.

That is a mess of a company.

greasepalm · 30-03-2020 8:44pm

Just seen this posted as should ease the stress of no nct now.

https://www.thejournal.ie/nct-extension-cars-coronavirus-5061739-Mar2020/

kerryjack · 30-03-2020 8:47pm

If there was a good minister for transport there it would have been a great help, he really didn't have a clue about the average joe and motoring in general.

honda boi · 30-03-2020 10:57pm

maestroamado wrote: »

Your in a tough spot.
I do not think the dealer should have sold you a car that you cannot insure.
I remember years ago wanting to buy a car from a garage.
They would not let the car leave until a insurance cert was produced.
I would have a chat with the garage, i think they should help you.

The person I bought it off has been pretty good.
Fixed issues with the car I had, no problem.
Surprisingly when I rang the insurance company and told them the car had no nct and only half the test done, they were fine about it and said as long as it passed the first part it's fine and theyll make note of it.
By the looks of it, it seems it won't be tested again till October.lol

vw4life · 30-03-2020 11:47pm

Avns1s wrote: »

I had the first part of the test done and passed with not problem. I booked the "retest" - underbody test online in a different centre within the 30 days.
Turned up and tester confirmed that there was no charge but 3 days later I discovered that a retest fee of €28 was taken from my card.

I emailed them and got a read receipt but no refund!!

They seem to be in total mess!

Can take up to 10 days to issue a refund

misstearheus · 31-03-2020 3:08am

Avns1s wrote: »

I had the first part of the test done and passed with not problem. I booked the "retest" - underbody test online in a different centre within the 30 days.
Turned up and tester confirmed that there was no charge but 3 days later I discovered that a retest fee of €28 was taken from my card.

I emailed them and got a read receipt but no refund!!

They seem to be in total mess!

You booked a Re-Test online. YOU. How did you just know that Re-test was the Free Lift Inspection and not the Standard Chargeable Re-Test?!? In fairness I know there is a clickable link going around that indicates you can book the Free Lift Inspection online, but it does just bring you into the main booking area. Despite the link indicating Lift Inspection can be booked free online; - sometimes there is an occasion where we have to utilize our common sense!

We don't actually know at the outset if the Re booking is the Chargeable Re-Test or the Free Lift Inspection. I didn't know which it was gonna be, so, instead I rang! And actually I think somewhere in Description it mentions something about In-Lane Testing or something so that did make me think it might actually be the €28 Re-Test. Anyway, my point is, - when I didn't know which of the two it was, I used my common sense and rang to book the Lift Inspection part!

I like the fact that you don't have to pay until the day of the Test, it means more money for me right up until then. Any Hoop-jumping could have been avoided by ringing, when there's no clear definition between Free Lift Inspection and €28 Re-test. If it states on it somewhere that it's Re-Test and if it looks and sounds like the €28 one, you may not get your money back at all!! If it doesn't say Lift Inspection or Under on it or anything!!

Re them being slow, bear with them! Am waiting on a Refund myself but got an email off them that they're sorting it out before I had time to get in touch and explain... So they are possibly just slow, but bear with them.

Now! What I came here to ask, What does the 2 Parts of the Test itself entail?!? What gets done in the First Part, and what exactly is left to get checked in this Lift Inspection part? T.v.m.i.a.

Avns1s · 31-03-2020 8:32am

misstearheus wrote: »

You booked a Re-Test online. YOU. How did you just know that Re-test was the Free Lift Inspection and not the Standard Chargeable Re-Test?!? In fairness I know there is a clickable link going around that indicates you can book the Free Lift Inspection online, but it does just bring you into the main booking area. Despite the link indicating Lift Inspection can be booked free online; - sometimes there is an occasion where we have to utilize our common sense!

We don't actually know at the outset if the Re booking is the Chargeable Re-Test or the Free Lift Inspection. I didn't know which it was gonna be, so, instead I rang! And actually I think somewhere in Description it mentions something about In-Lane Testing or something so that did make me think it might actually be the €28 Re-Test. Anyway, my point is, - when I didn't know which of the two it was, I used my common sense and rang to book the Lift Inspection part!

I like the fact that you don't have to pay until the day of the Test, it means more money for me right up until then. Any Hoop-jumping could have been avoided by ringing, when there's no clear definition between Free Lift Inspection and €28 Re-test. If it states on it somewhere that it's Re-Test and if it looks and sounds like the €28 one, you may not get your money back at all!! If it doesn't say Lift Inspection or Under on it or anything!!

Re them being slow, bear with them! Am waiting on a Refund myself but got an email off them that they're sorting it out before I had time to get in touch and explain... So they are possibly just slow, but bear with them.

Now! What I came here to ask, What does the 2 Parts of the Test itself entail?!? What gets done in the First Part, and what exactly is left to get checked in this Lift Inspection part? T.v.m.i.a.

Would you calm the **** down before you fall off your high horse. While you're calm, go and read my post properly!

NCT discontinue lift inspections (now with places with working lifts)

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