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“Irish women don’t like foreign women”

  • 30-01-2020 6:49pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭


    Is this a thing because I’ve heard it from several non Irish women since I’ve been back in Ireland. All the non Irish women in the office have said it and I’ve heard it from friends who date non Irish girls. Before someone jumps in and says “not all Irish women don’t like foreign women and not in all cases” yes I know I get it but still has anyone heard this before, is this an actual thing?

    I put it down to foreign women are more likely to be just passing through and maybe people are reluctant to invest time in a friendship when that person is going to leave but then I was talking to a girl I know who is a teacher and she passed a remark about a friend of ours marrying a foreign woman which I was surprised that she would make that comment but I do sense there is a certain resentment by Irish women that maybe the Irish lads heads are being turned and where they had the rule of the roost for so long, now we have women coming from different countries and there nose is out of joint almost a sense of snobbery or looking down at foreign women.

    So is this a thing has anyone heard this before that Irish women don’t like foreign women because I don’t think it’s an issue when it comes to Irish men and foreign lads.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Simple answer is I've never heard of this at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭buried


    Never heard of this. The Irish women I know all speak very highly and fondly of the foreign women they work with for example.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Not true in my experience but someone will be along in a minute to say its because Irish women are fat and ugly, foreign women are beautiful and stealing all the men or something like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Have a look at the dating thread above. Some bloke was told by an Irish woman on a date that because he was with foreign women he'd have to have an STD check before they slept together as foreign women all have diseases.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    LOL, silly jellus wimmins.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    :confused: well they’re generally welcoming on the face of it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Not true in my experience but someone will be along in a minute to say its because Irish women are fat and ugly, foreign women are beautiful and stealing all the men or something like that.

    That was all pretty much covered in the OP, to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭Car99


    Some irish women love foreign women I'm sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Have a look at the dating thread above. Some bloke was told by an Irish woman on a date that because he was with foreign women he'd have to have an STD check before they slept together as foreign women all have diseases.

    Then that person is a bigot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    the only place i've heard this is boards.ie threads through the years. i'd say it started around 2006


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    the only place i've heard this is boards.ie threads through the years. i'd say it started around 2006

    I once witnessed the live action version of the boards guy who puts down Irish women. I think I’ve related this before. It was at a bar in Lisbon. He was loudly telling the barman and a few others surrounding him how ugly Irish women were and was ranking the women of various countries. I couldn’t believe I was witnessing it in the flesh. And, of course, he was no beaut himself. Not being a beaut - totally fine, but a bit of self-awareness, perhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Haven't heard that they do


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Is this a thing because I’ve heard it from several non Irish women since I’ve been back in Ireland. All the non Irish women in the office have said it and I’ve heard it from friends who date non Irish girls. Before someone jumps in and says “not all Irish women don’t like foreign women and not in all cases” yes I know I get it but still has anyone heard this before, is this an actual thing?

    I put it down to foreign women are more likely to be just passing through and maybe people are reluctant to invest time in a friendship when that person is going to leave but then I was talking to a girl I know who is a teacher and she passed a remark about a friend of ours marrying a foreign woman which I was surprised that she would make that comment but I do sense there is a certain resentment by Irish women that maybe the Irish lads heads are being turned and where they had the rule of the roost for so long, now we have women coming from different countries and there nose is out of joint almost a sense of snobbery or looking down at foreign women.

    So is this a thing has anyone heard this before that Irish women don’t like foreign women because I don’t think it’s an issue when it comes to Irish men and foreign lads.


    Holy run on sentence! :P

    To answer your question, yes I have heard Irish women speak none too fondly of foreign women .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    I once witnessed the live action version of the boards guy who puts down Irish women. I think I’ve related this before. It was at a bar in Lisbon. He was loudly telling the barman and a few others surrounding him how ugly Irish women were and was ranking the women of various countries. I couldn’t believe I was witnessing it in the flesh. And, of course, he was no beaut himself. Not being a beaut - totally fine, but a bit of self-awareness, perhaps?

    Witnessed in person myself before. A lad broke up with an ex and went travelling. Came back and claimed a 10 in Ireland is a 4 in most other countries. He is now married to an Irish girl he met while abroad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Wasn't this a thread last year? Getting serious deja-vu.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Holy run on sentence! :P

    To answer your question, yes I have heard Irish women speak none too fondly of foreign women .

    On boards and in real life, I’ve heard Irish men talk about how sleazy continental men are and denigrating the appearance of Polish guys. Some people are just cunts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭buried


    Someone rang me up earlier today and told me my computer machine was infected with the coronavirus so I had to give them all me details quick. Should have listened to the gadge because they did say it, so then....... it must definitely be true.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    Witnessed in person myself before. A lad broke up with an ex and went travelling. Came back and claimed a 10 in Ireland is a 4 in most other countries. He is now married to an Irish girl he met while abroad.

    I think the Lisbon guy was using the 10 scale too. :D Fucking sad sacks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Wasn't this a thread last year? Getting serious deja-vu.

    So it must be a thing then or maybe we should just make it happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭De Danann


    I haven't experienced Irish women not liking foreign women...but I have experienced Irish mammies specifically not liking their sons foreign girlfriends.

    I think that's just down to different cultures and Irish mammies not feeling they are being respected in the same way they would be by an Irish girl though.

    In my experience generally though, Irish women get along just as well with foreign women, as Irish men do with foreign men.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    On boards and in real life, I’ve heard Irish men talk about how sleazy continental men are and denigrating the appearance of Polish guys. Some people are just cunts.

    It's insecurity from some on both sides.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭izzyflusky


    As a foreigner I don't think I've ever felt discriminated against or disliked by males or females in Ireland (or any other country I've lived in) based on my nationality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Have a look at the dating thread above. Some bloke was told by an Irish woman on a date that because he was with foreign women he'd have to have an STD check before they slept together as foreign women all have diseases.
    Who said there aren't individual incidents though?

    The (never provocative) OP is talking about a broad social trend. You know, the whole totally innocent "Is it just me or..." thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    Witnessed in person myself before. A lad broke up with an ex and went travelling. Came back and claimed a 10 in Ireland is a 4 in most other countries. He is now married to an Irish girl he met while abroad.

    Was he talking about the wrister scale?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Generally no, though I have had a couple of incidences of less than polite behaviour from Irish women with non Irish exes of mine. Though along the lines of what De Danann said, it was nearly all older Irish women who came out with the "couldn't you find a nice Irish girl" stuff.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,395 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Can confirm. It's not just foreign women we dont like, it's foreign men too because they arent good enough for us. Oh and irish men, we hate them too due to us all being stuck up bitches who are also ugly and fat. Fact. It's a wonder any of us manage to get into relationships at all really, we're that bad.

    Seriously though, I had noticed a slight reduction in the women bashing threads. Good to see they're back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭skallywag


    Wasn't this a thread last year? Getting serious deja-vu.

    You need to hang out here more.

    The topics tend to get recycled at least 3-4 times a year.

    The attention span aint what it used to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Better luck next time, OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Generally no, though I have had a couple of incidences of less than polite behaviour from Irish women with non Irish exes of mine. Though along the lines of what De Danann said, it was nearly all older Irish women who came out with the "couldn't you find a nice Irish girl" stuff.

    But sure, those women are just arseholes. Like the Irish men I’ve heard derogatorily talking about foreign men. It’s not a trend. It’s just people being arseholes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    I don't like them because they are keeping all those tall handsome mysterious sexy-voiced foreign men to themselves. Absolute wagons!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Look like lads the women can be right two faced bitches with each other, and the women are also hypersensitive

    In this instance it creates the perfect storm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    People who think they're brilliant by posting a provocative statement regularly **** it up in their zealous haste by not bothering to proof-read. Resultant gibberish kinda... takes the edge off. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Sorry about that


    Wow, you have issues!

    Said the person who registered to say that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Can confirm. It's not just foreign women we dont like, it's foreign men too because they arent good enough for us. Oh and irish men, we hate them too due to us all being stuck up bitches who are also ugly and fat. Fact. It's a wonder any of us manage to get into relationships at all really, we're that bad.

    Seriously though, I had noticed a slight reduction in the women bashing threads. Good to see they're back.

    Brilliant. :D

    I heard it once from husband of foreign woman. I never felt it myself, Irish women were always friendly towards me. However it is harder to make friends with locals who have established friendship groups. If you land up in city where you know no one you will more likely find friends among people who are in the same position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    I've heard Irish women make horrible sweeping generalisations about how all foreign women are rude, cold and unfriendly, and how they are obsessed with their weight and terrified to eat anything in case they gain weight and their boyfriends no longer find them attractive.

    But I've also heard foreign women make horrible sweeping generalisations about how all Irish women are loud, fat and lazy.

    So I guess each side is as bad as the other.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    I've heard all kinds of people say sh1t things about all kinds of people. Not particularly zoned into which sex in each case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,032 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Some people say women hate women

    And some people just hate women full stop and are always trying to bitch about them on brain dead repetitive threads such as these.

    Some people even go out if their way to register to post on these threads as these.

    Doesn't the mind boggle?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    The only people I've ever heard slag off men who are attracted to east Asian women (and to be fair, I haven't heard it much)... are other men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,032 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    It does truly boggle the mind, don't be getting your knickers in a twist though, remember this is just an chat forum to have a bit of fun and shoot the breeze.

    You seem to know a lot of the forum is about after 2 posts.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,726 ✭✭✭Feisar


    De Danann wrote: »
    I haven't experienced Irish women not liking foreign women...but I have experienced Irish mammies specifically not liking their sons foreign girlfriends.

    I think that's just down to different cultures and Irish mammies not feeling they are being respected in the same way they would be by an Irish girl though.

    In my experience generally though, Irish women get along just as well with foreign women, as Irish men do with foreign men.

    My mum's main concern was if I settled down with one and had kids she could up and leave with them back to deepest darkest Russia.

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    Don't know, I wouldn't say so.

    Looking at my missus (non native) she gets along very well with her colleagues but she doesn't usually go out with them, doesn't like drinking, arriving late at night or just general chit chat, she has an introvert personality, I'm the opposite.
    If we would've lived closer to city centre I'm sure it would've been different.
    We're all the same breed like in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,726 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    The only people I've ever heard slag off men who are attracted to east Asian women (and to be fair, I haven't heard it much)... are other men.

    Often got a dose of jungle fever, never yellow fever for some reason, unless ya count Mongolia

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,032 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    My advice to you is smile and enjoy life, don't spend all your free time on internet forums spreading bitterness, it's tragic.

    You need to take your own advice.

    Whinging about women wont do you any good long term.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    The only people I've ever heard slag off men who are attracted to east Asian women (and to be fair, I haven't heard it much)... are other men.

    I’ve met a handful of guys who are very fixated on women from various Asian countries. Like, it goes beyond a preference to almost fetishising them. I gotta say, I find it weird.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    The only people I've ever heard slag off men who are attracted to east Asian women (and to be fair, I haven't heard it much)... are other men.
    Hmmm never thought of that before but yeah.
    Feisar wrote: »
    Often got a dose of jungle fever, never yellow fever for some reason, unless ya count Mongolia
    Never got either TBH. Seems my willie is a racist. :eek: :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    The only time I hear comment on men with Asian girls is when there is clearly a 30 year or so wage gap but sure if they're both happy with the situation let them at it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Married a foreigner. The Irish/ English were just hard work and head wreckers.
    Never had a row with the in-laws. Never had a one to one conversation with them either :D


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    Raconteuse wrote:
    The only people I've ever heard slag off men who are attracted to east Asian women (and to be fair, I haven't heard it much)... are other men.

    Not in my experience. Other guys will joke about it, but it's rarely a strong criticism. I had a variety of encounters with Irish women saying nasty things in bars regarding my Chinese girlfriend the last time I brought a gf home (and no, I didn't know the women).

    I doubt any Irish woman is feeling jealous about me being with an Asian woman. However, I've noticed over the years, that for some, there's a need to pass judgement. Towards the guy rather than the Asian woman.. although my ex did come crying out of the toilets after some women were insulting to her.

    Personally, I'd say there are muppets everywhere. Most Irish people couldn't give a toss who you were with, regardless of their nationality or ethnic background.
    I’ve met a handful of guys who are very fixated on women from various Asian countries. Like, it goes beyond a preference to almost fetishising them. I gotta say, I find it weird.

    Weird? I feel the same about guys who have a fixed preference for white women.

    And yes, I have a very strong preference for Asian women. I'm still attracted to other ethnic groups.. but, honestly, Chinese/Japanese women catch my attention much quicker than other nationalities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭perrito caliente


    Yeah, if I'm honest I do tend to look down on guys with Asian girlfriends, and I am a man. I can't help but feel they are deviant, even weak in some way, but of course not all of them are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,068 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I, for one, feel that immigration particularly from South America (and to a lesser extent eastern Europe) has really improved the options for Irish men personally.


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