“Irish women don’t like foreign women”

KiKi III

Did we do the bit where the arrival of Polish women caused Irish women to pull up their standards yet?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

KiKi III wrote: »

Did we do the bit where the arrival of Polish women caused Irish women to pull up their standards yet?

You know, it’s interesting. A decade ago, this thread would have been absolutely hopping. That’s probably partly down to the declining user-base of boards.ie but there are probably other factors too. People from other countries leaving during the recession, maybe a maturation of the boards user-base. It’s interesting to observe the changing zeitgeist.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Deleted User wrote: »

Weird? I feel the same about guys who have a fixed preference for white women.

And yes, I have a very strong preference for Asian women. I'm still attracted to other ethnic groups.. but, honestly, Chinese/Japanese women catch my attention much quicker than other nationalities.

Yes, weird. This was beyond preference and was a fixation. No interest in anyone outside that. What you describe here diverges from what I’m talking about.

And yes, a prohibitive fixation on white women would be as odd but I’ve personally never come across it. Genuinely.

But anyway, if you find a fixation on white women weird as you’ve said here, surely you can’t object to me feeling the same about fixation on various Asian women?

Gynoid

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

You know, it’s interesting. A decade ago, this thread would have been absolutely hopping. That’s probably partly down to the declining user-base of boards.ie but there are probably other factors too. People from other countries leaving during the recession, maybe a maturation of the boards user-base. It’s interesting to observe the changing zeitgeist.

I read that as a 'masturbation of the boards user base.' Like a parliament of crows or a shrewdness of apes it works!

Smcgie

My ex was eastern European, every female friend/ family member hated her

Wasn't because she wasn't irish, more than likely because she was a ****. I did see that women in general felt insecure around her though and somewhat threatened by her extrovert personality and looks.

She had looks and a personality that seemed to rub irish women up the wrong way - so op , while not 100% accurate - it is somewhat a thing

They tend to be very robotic and abrupt which probably comes across as rude, so there could be something in it. There’s very little warmth in an eastern european woman.

ILoveYourVibes

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

They tend to be very robotic and abrupt which probably comes across as rude, so there could be something in it. There’s very little warmth in an eastern european woman.

This is total BS.

They are very warm.

s7ryf3925pivug

racist people don't like foreign people.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Gynoid wrote: »

I read that as a 'masturbation of the boards user base.' Like a parliament of crows or a shrewdness of apes it works!

You’ve struck upon a new collective noun. Potential new sig for me now that my Apu one is no longer PC. :pac:

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Smcgie wrote: »

My ex was eastern European, every female friend/ family member hated her

Wasn't because she wasn't irish, more than likely because she was a ****. I did see that women in general felt insecure around her though and somewhat threatened by her extrovert personality and looks.

She had looks and a personality that seemed to rub irish women up the wrong way - so op , while not 100% accurate - it is somewhat a thing

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

LOL, silly jellus wimmins.

Uh huh.

What’s more likely is, if she was that disliked, well, she’s the common denominator. It’s doubtful that all those apparent jellus wimmins had never been around a good-looking woman before either. And, to be honest, in peak Irish men-Eastern European couple times in Ireland, I found many men really exaggerated the looks of their partner. Bodies would often be fantastic, faces tended to be much more variable. I’ll probably be written off as envious. If so, bring it. I’ve friends and acquaintances who are beautiful, truly, and there’s no hate from me.

The_Kew_Tour

Found my missus has great experience with Irish women in general. She feels they actually make her even feel more welcome here.

ILoveYourVibes

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

This is total BS.

They are very warm.

This is total BS.

They are very cold.


(That could go on all day and get old very quick.)

whydoibother

The Irish are naturally racist (men and women) but I believe that is changing. There’s been a huge influx of foreigners into Ireland in the last 20 years. So, with time, I think people here will start to realise that now we live in the world, not just in Ireland.

Reign Teeny Jury wrote: »

Is this a thing because I’ve heard it from several non Irish women since I’ve been back in Ireland. All the non Irish women in the office have said it and I’ve heard it from friends who date non Irish girls. Before someone jumps in and says “not all Irish women don’t like foreign women and not in all cases” yes I know I get it but still has anyone heard this before, is this an actual thing?

I put it down to foreign women are more likely to be just passing through and maybe people are reluctant to invest time in a friendship when that person is going to leave but then I was talking to a girl I know who is a teacher and she passed a remark about a friend of ours marrying a foreign woman which I was surprised that she would make that comment but I do sense there is a certain resentment by Irish women that maybe the Irish lads heads are being turned and where they had the rule of the roost for so long, now we have women coming from different countries and there nose is out of joint almost a sense of snobbery or looking down at foreign women.

So is this a thing has anyone heard this before that Irish women don’t like foreign women because I don’t think it’s an issue when it comes to Irish men and foreign lads.

anewme

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

You know, it’s interesting. A decade ago, this thread would have been absolutely hopping. That’s probably partly down to the declining user-base of boards.ie but there are probably other factors too. People from other countries leaving during the recession, maybe a maturation of the boards user-base. It’s interesting to observe the changing zeitgeist.

The fact that it's still here in 2020 says enough though.

Have we not moved way past low level misogny and hate and "why do women ', 'why are women'....followed by some kind of nasty dig at women.

This was the second thread in as many hours in that vein. In addition, theres still the likes of the painfull almost daily rubbish ..."why do women lead going into a shop, even if the man is the boss" type whinging.

Feel for the mods with the constant nasty re reg trolls too.

v638sg7k1a92bx

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Uh huh.
I found many men really exaggerated the looks of their partner. Bodies would often be fantastic, faces tended to be much more variable. I’ll probably be written off as envious. If so, bring it. I’ve friends and acquaintances who are beautiful, truly, and there’s no hate from me.

You mean a Ferrada... the body of a Ferrari and the face of a Lada.

meeeeh

Why do some Irish men feel so threatened by Irish women? This thread is perfect example of it. I never came across that before moving to Ireland. I would have friends who considered one or other nationality more attractive but I never came across insulting the personality of women of the same nationality.

Raconteuse

whydoibother wrote: »

The Irish are naturally racist (men and women).

Speak for yourself there, blud.

And recognise the irony of such a statement.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

But anyway, if you find a fixation on white women weird as you’ve said here, surely you can’t object to me feeling the same about fixation on various Asian women?

I'm not objecting anything.

On other threads, I went into detail on my dating experiences in Ireland so I won't go do a long post here. Personally, I never found Irish/British women (that I met) very attractive, and those who I did find attractive, were rarely attracted to me. Whereas Asian women do like my skinny body, and don't react strongly to my shaking disorder. I do tend to be attracted to small women and slim bodies. Dark hair, and black eyes are a serious turn-on for me.

And I will say that it's a personal preference. Most Irish guys I know absolutely love Irish women physically. It's not intended as an insult or slight to Irish women... it's just my own personal preference. (It wasn't a porn fetish either, and I didn't have a thing for Asian women until I went to live in Asia.)

I've always been a fair bit odd/weird. I'm fine with it. I do find that some Irish women get annoyed that I don't appreciate them in the same way other Irish guys do, but honestly, I'd guess that most don't care in the slightest.

jimgoose

I had no idea this was a thing, but if it is then obviously the only way to settle it is the white heat of the crucible of the competition of butt-ass-nekkid wrasslin' in a pit covered in motor oil, and may the best woman win, whatever colour she is.

ohnonotgmail

Reign Teeny Jury wrote: »

You mean a Ferrada... the body of a Ferrari and the face of a Lada.

No they mean a BOBFOC. Body off Baywatch, face off Crimewatch.

KungPao

I remember breaking the news to my mother that girlfriend was a foreign. There was shock and a sharp intake of air, but she was okay once I explained she wasn’t a black.

Daft racist.

Feisar

KungPao wrote: »

I remember breaking the news to my mother that girlfriend was a foreign. There was shock and a sharp intake of air, but she was okay once I explained she wasn’t a black.

Daft racist.

She could be green as far as my old man was concerned as long as she was a she.

LirW

KungPao wrote: »

I remember breaking the news to my mother that girlfriend was a foreign. There was shock and a sharp intake of air, but she was okay once I explained she wasn’t a black.

Daft racist.

She just panicked there wouldn't be a big lavish Irish wedding in some grimy Tipperary hotel due to a culture clash :pac:

KungPao

KungPao wrote: »

I remember breaking the news to my mother that girlfriend was a foreign. There was shock and a sharp intake of air, but she was okay once I explained she wasn’t a black.

Daft racist.

My parents absolutely love my former Chinese girlfriends, and stay in contact with them after we broke up. :pac: My parents had their shocks with my older brother who paved the way with his own girlfriends being presented first.

My current girlfriend was supposed to return with me, but needed to stay in China due to the virus (She's a police officer).

Wibbs

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I found many men really exaggerated the looks of their partner.

Men tend to do that anyway, which is mostly a sweet thing, but add in an "exotic" factor and it tends to go up.

Bodies would often be fantastic, faces tended to be much more variable.

I would say and generally speaking Irish women tend to have nicer, softer faces on average, but other cultures do tend to have better figures. Thinner anyway, which isn't to everyone's taste either.

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

Men tend to do that anyway, which is mostly a sweet thing, but add in an "exotic" factor and it tends to go up.

Dunno if it's an exaggeration though. With regards to any of my girlfriends, I consider them to be absolutely gorgeous (still do after breaking up). I know that my friends might consider them average, but then I'm generally not attracted to their girlfriends either... And after living in Asia for over a decade, having a Chinese or Asian girlfriend isn't really exotic. It's simply normal.

Raconteuse

jimgoose wrote: »

I had no idea this was a thing.

That's because it isn't, Sir Goose.

nthclare

Maybe the thread could have said, I know a woman who dislikes another woman and they're both different nationalities.

Some women are jealous of other women, some women admire other women.

Some women are happy in their own skins and confident enough than have to undermine other women.

And the same can be said for men

Bobblehats

Wibbs wrote: »

Men tend to do that anyway, which is mostly a sweet thing, but add in an "exotic" factor and it tends to go up.

I can’t vouch for that she’s got a beak that wouldn’t look out of place at the hornbill festival with a massive set of delph that would ward off the local predators. But it does add up to the most photogenic smile..

jimgoose

Raconteuse wrote: »

That's because it isn't, Sir Goose.

Hmm. Is there anything at all to be said for the oil-pit wrasslin'??

CruelCoin

I've heard that Irish women dislike foreign women roughly the same amount as i've heard the Irish men prefer foreign women.

Which is to say, quite often. Maybe it's a feeling threatened thing?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not objecting anything.

On other threads, I went into detail on my dating experiences in Ireland so I won't go do a long post here. Personally, I never found Irish/British women (that I met) very attractive, and those who I did find attractive, were rarely attracted to me. Whereas Asian women do like my skinny body, and don't react strongly to my shaking disorder. I do tend to be attracted to small women and slim bodies. Dark hair, and black eyes are a serious turn-on for me.

And I will say that it's a personal preference. Most Irish guys I know absolutely love Irish women physically. It's not intended as an insult or slight to Irish women... it's just my own personal preference. (It wasn't a porn fetish either, and I didn't have a thing for Asian women until I went to live in Asia.)

I've always been a fair bit odd/weird. I'm fine with it. I do find that some Irish women get annoyed that I don't appreciate them in the same way other Irish guys do, but honestly, I'd guess that most don't care in the slightest.

You said it was a strong preference but that you wouldn’t be completely held to it. The guys I’m talking about were unmoving. I’ve already pointed this out. I’m not sure why you think I’m talking about you.

Blitzkrieger

I've heard some foreigners (and Irish people who have moved from other counties) say that we're very clannish and unfriendly. I'd like to think it's more that we often have an established social circle already and are less likely to go out of our way to make new friends. It seems people who are new to the area often make friends with other people who are new to the area. I'd hope it's due to the above and maybe some culture clash/things lost in translation than actual malice.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

He was loudly telling the barman and a few others surrounding him how ugly Irish women were and was ranking the women of various countries. I couldn’t believe I was witnessing it in the flesh. And, of course, he was no beaut himself.

Given how low in the attractiveness rankings Irish men are, I'm not surprised. I'm gorgeous myself though.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I’ve met a handful of guys who are very fixated on women from various Asian countries. Like, it goes beyond a preference to almost fetishising them. I gotta say, I find it weird.

I have a friend who's like that. There was a Thai woman in the club one night and it was like he couldn't stop staring. I'd have been very uncomfortable if I was on the receiving end of that. He's had an Irish girlfriend for years now though...

Raconteuse

jimgoose wrote: »

Hmm. Is there anything at all to be said for the oil-pit wrasslin'??

"If the bible has taught us nothing else - and it hasn't - is that girls should stick to GIRLS' sports. Such as... hot oil wrestling, foxy boxing, and such and such." H. Simpson

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Blitzkrieger wrote: »

ILI have a friend who's like that. There was a Thai woman in the club one night and it was like he couldn't stop staring. I'd have been very uncomfortable if I was on the receiving end of that. He's had an Irish girlfriend for years now though...

Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. Preferences - no problem. But staring, being transfixed is what I’ve witnessed. And of the guys I knew fairly well so could recognise a pattern. So far, I’ve only noticed this fixation focused on women are various east Asian nations: Japan, Thailand, The Philippines.

anewme

Reign Teeny Jury wrote: »

You mean a Ferrada... the body of a Ferrari and the face of a Lada.

Usually men who say stuff like this have heads like bags of spanners themselves.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

You said it was a strong preference but that you wouldn’t be completely held to it. The guys I’m talking about were unmoving. I’ve already pointed this out. I’m not sure why you think I’m talking about you.

because you quoted me?

Rufeo

I dated an Asian woman for a few years. She was quite racist lol.

I think women (and men) are racist wherever you go.

But definitely if you encounter someone judging you cos u have a foreign girlfriend, tell them openly to fuk off. They deserve it.

Pawwed Rig

Blitzkrieger wrote: »

I've heard some foreigners (and Irish people who have moved from other counties) say that we're very clannish and unfriendly. I'd like to think it's more that we often have an established social circle already and are less likely to go out of our way to make new friends. It seems people who are new to the area often make friends with other people who are new to the area. I'd hope it's due to the above and maybe some culture clash/things lost in translation than actual malice

I would have thought that having an established social circle already and being less likely to go out of our way to make new friends is the exact same as being clannish and unfriendly?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Deleted User wrote: »

because you quoted me?

Am, yeah, because you quoted me and in your first post where you quoted me defended your preference which was clearly different to what I was talking about. Preference =/= fixation.

Deleted User wrote: »

Weird? I feel the same about guys who have a fixed preference for white women.

And yes, I have a very strong preference for Asian women. I'm still attracted to other ethnic groups.. but, honestly, Chinese/Japanese women catch my attention much quicker than other nationalities.

Emphasis mine. That’s different to what I was initially describing which is NO interest in or attraction to anyone else.

pinkyeye

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

They tend to be very robotic and abrupt which probably comes across as rude, so there could be something in it. There’s very little warmth in an eastern european woman.

I wouldn't call it robotic or abrupt but I know what you mean. My best friend is polish and she'll say straight out "you look like **** today". I'm able to laugh at it but I have warned her to be careful what she says to certain people.

We're not used to such honesty in Ireland. :D:D

perrito caliente

I had an intimate relationship with a black woman. A beautiful, beautiful creature. I still think about the activities we did together.

Antares35

Opening post reads like "can this generalisation be true? Because I have anecdotal evidence to support it but I dont want to just base my generalisation on that but then someone else gave me anecdotal evidence too so is this ok?"

Never seen it, heard of it or heard anyone else mention it. Marrying a French man myself so couldn't care less if all the Irish men go "running off" with foreign wimmins lol. From what I've seen of my disgusting pig of a brother and his disgusting pigs of male friends, they are the ones running off on their sex holidays to pay for the leg over because those jealous Irish women wont be having them

maninasia

Reign Teeny Jury wrote: »

Is this a thing because I’ve heard it from several non Irish women since I’ve been back in Ireland. All the non Irish women in the office have said it and I’ve heard it from friends who date non Irish girls. Before someone jumps in and says “not all Irish women don’t like foreign women and not in all cases” yes I know I get it but still has anyone heard this before, is this an actual thing?

I put it down to foreign women are more likely to be just passing through and maybe people are reluctant to invest time in a friendship when that person is going to leave but then I was talking to a girl I know who is a teacher and she passed a remark about a friend of ours marrying a foreign woman which I was surprised that she would make that comment but I do sense there is a certain resentment by Irish women that maybe the Irish lads heads are being turned and where they had the rule of the roost for so long, now we have women coming from different countries and there nose is out of joint almost a sense of snobbery or looking down at foreign women.

So is this a thing has anyone heard this before that Irish women don’t like foreign women because I don’t think it’s an issue when it comes to Irish men and foreign lads.

Wife told me she felt resentment from local women. Was surprised but I have to say I noticed they weren't friendly. These were some of my friends or friends friends.

s1ippy

Pauliedragon wrote: »

Have a look at the dating thread above. Some bloke was told by an Irish woman on a date that because he was with foreign women he'd have to have an STD check before they slept together as foreign women all have diseases.

I mean, one could easily speculate that Irish people would be more likely to have sexually-transmitted infections than many of those from other countries, because the difficulty in accessing STD screening services here. A quick Google reveals there are sixteen counties and many bigger cities only have one screening service with one clinic a week. Several counties having no access to STI clinics.

I haven't seen any race-related jealousy among people I know and a lot of the lads are with women from abroad. Could just be the group of people the OP works with. Or I could have less racist friends than their colleagues.

Ultrflat

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Then that person is a bigot.

eld cunt... I'd avoid her like the plauge.

whydoibother

I think in all countries you can see xenophobia. I used to think the Irish were racist but nowadays, after travelling, I realise that people are like that everywhere... however once you start talking to then things seem to get better...
Of course, there are serious cases of racism but those people aren’t good in the head. We’ve seen politicians and socialites being racist in public and they’ve been extra criticised and some even lost their jobs so I think that the majority of people here are actually sound.

Melanchthon

Strangely have heard mainland European women be pretty judgey about British and Irish women and not heard the reverse, didnt seem a like or dislike thing though.

mr_fegelien

One thing I've definitely heard reiterated many times by foreign women and men is the difficulty in making friendships with Irish people. Someone on reddit used an analogy that said Irish people are like peaches, really friendly on a superficial level but when you go to the core, you'll encounter very hard shell that's difficult to break. Seems that most people create this hard shell after secondary school and college when they've established their circle of friends.

Conversely, people in other countries are like coconuts. they may appear cold, hard, and distant on the outside but are actually very friendly on the inside.

Pauliedragon

Every nationality has assholes/friendly/pricks/decent people etc. This nonsense that you can put millions of people under one umbrella is laughable. I know Irish women who are superstar people and I know Irish women who are below the dog crap I stepped on this morning. Same as Irish men, same as the multiple nationalities I've worked with and socialised with over the years. It's not that hard to understand that we're all the same but different regardless of nationality.