It's Brexit Day!

I see sheep

mondeo wrote: »

Are there any new criteria in place for driving over the border ? Assuming we can drive over and back as normal ? I have not been following brexit much to be honest.

You now have to wave your willy out the window as you cross.

Pyridine

Now the Brits are gone, people are starting to have some fun. New adverts popping up in the centre of Brussels:

completedit

LMAO, there's nothing cringier than pro EU types belittling the British. EU is grand, suits Ireland and it has many benefits but **** it, the sky didn't fall down last night. and people were predicting civil war and all sorts which obviously was never gonna happen. I think people genuinely wanted some ****show to go down for some macabre entertainment reasons.

Pyridine

LMAO, there's nothing cringier than pro EU types belittling the British.

Emmm lighten up. And EU types?? It's an ad, not from EU types but from an advertising agency for whatever it is they are advertising. Sheesh!

Anyway, how much space will BREXIT free up in the EU?





1GB! :P

completedit

forgive me that I don't find some cringey corporate advertising funny

biko

murpho999 wrote: »

Did you actually listen to what he said?
Really you should do some fact checking. You're going back to 2010/11 when they had protracted talks and efforts to form a government.

Is it yourself Guy Maurice Marie Louise?
Do you deny that you want more power transfer from nation states to EU?
Do you deny you want an EU army?

Marie Louise, why has the trade union morphed into a political and military (if you, Macron and Merkel get your wish) union?

Wibbs

completedit wrote: »

I think people genuinely wanted some ****show to go down for some macabre entertainment reasons.

Agreed. Personally I do think the UK leaving is not the best idea for them at all, it's likely going to affect the poorest Brits and I believe that both the leave and remain side had their head up their arses and played on people's fears. However I don't get this gloating about it stuff at all. It's as daft as seeing the little Englanders dancing around waving Union flags.

Mr E

I just saw this on Facebook.... yikes.
From a Tower Block in Norwich, apparently.

Church on Tuesday

Mr E wrote: »

I just saw this on Facebook.... yikes.
From a Tower Block in Norwich, apparently.

I highly doubt that is genuine.

Wompa1

completedit wrote: »

LMAO, there's nothing cringier than pro EU types belittling the British. EU is grand, suits Ireland and it has many benefits but **** it, the sky didn't fall down last night. and people were predicting civil war and all sorts which obviously was never gonna happen. I think people genuinely wanted some ****show to go down for some macabre entertainment reasons.

Those predictions were if they left without a deal. The Withdrawal Agreement got done in the end. Now there's the transition period in which not much changes from the status quo. Hopefully at the end of the transition they just leave with a bad deal rather than no deal.

Also, the people who predicted possible civil unrest was the Tory government in their Yellowhammer and Black Swan reports. The latter of which was worst case scenario leaving without any deal. Yellowhammer being the base case.

The consensus amongst people here is that we'll be taking a knock as part of this bullsh!t too. I don't think anyone is willing that to happen. It's just the way it goes.

jojofizzio

Mr E wrote: »

I just saw this on Facebook.... yikes.
From a Tower Block in Norwich, apparently.

Said bigot wasn’t brave enough to sign it was he/she?

biko

Labour, Greens and Liberal Democrats. That's the majority in Norwich.

Mr E

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I highly doubt that is genuine.

Widely reported this afternoon...

https://www.google.com/search?q=norwich+brexit+poster&oq=norwich+brexit+&ie=UTF-8

CruelCoin

murpho999 wrote: »

Really you should do some fact checking. You're going back to 2010/11 when they had protracted talks and efforts to form a government.

There is a massive difference between talking about doing something and actually doing it.

The point being they didn't actually form anything for ages.

lawred2

Mr E wrote: »

I just saw this on Facebook.... yikes.
From a Tower Block in Norwich, apparently.

Sure that's easily faked

While still being believable

droidman123

Mr E wrote: »

I just saw this on Facebook.... yikes.
From a Tower Block in Norwich, apparently.

The person who put that up forgot to mention all the countries that the british have "infected". I wonder would the person agree that all the british immigrants in germany,ireland,spain etc should be booted back home to britain

lawred2

Wompa1 wrote: »

Those predictions were if they left without a deal. The Withdrawal Agreement got done in the end. Now there's the transition period in which not much changes from the status quo. Hopefully at the end of the transition they just leave with a bad deal rather than no deal.

Also, the people who predicted possible civil unrest was the Tory government in their Yellowhammer and Black Swan reports. The latter of which was worst case scenario leaving without any deal. Yellowhammer being the base case.

The consensus amongst people here is that we'll be taking a knock as part of this bullsh!t too. I don't think anyone is willing that to happen. It's just the way it goes.

Why are you engaging?

Junkyard Tom

topper75 wrote: »

We love Europe but we hate the EU.

This is a dirty little lie. Most of Europe is in the EU by choice and happy with it. Do people who utter this dirty lie love the mountains and rivers but despise the 400 million citizens of the various countries in the EU?

'We love Europe but we hate the EU' is a dirty little saying used to deflect questions about nasty motivations.

Brexiters can't just be happy about Britain leaving the EU - they'd like to see the whole EU project crumble down around their ears even if id did mean their own house would collapse with it.

road_high

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

This is a dirty little lie. Most of Europe is in the EU by choice and happy with it. Do people who utter this dirty lie love the mountains and rivers but despise the 400 million citizens of the various countries in the EU?

'We love Europe but we hate the EU' is a dirty little saying used to deflect questions about nasty motivations.

Brexiters can't just be happy about Britain leaving the EU - they'd like to see the whole EU project crumble down around their ears even if id did mean their own house would collapse with it.

Almost more than wanting the U.K. to leave they have this weird obsession with seeing the whole thing collapse. Why not just say it wasn’t for us and just leave with dignity. It’s their historical chip on their shoulder about the French (they never really got over them) or the evil Germans who became The powerhouse of Europe. Both are just too much to handle for the average Daily Mail or Sun “reader”.
Ireland doesn’t have that historical package with the continent as we never picked wars with anyone.

indioblack

Wibbs wrote: »

However I don't get this gloating about it stuff at all. It's as daft as seeing the little Englanders dancing around waving Union flags.

Exactly. I found the flag waving embarrassing. In fairness these were relatively small celebrations. The 16,141,241 who voted Remain shouldn't be forgotten. The larger Leave vote would always be used as a trump card. Whilst no one can be certain what will happen next, most of the forecasts are negative.

Junkyard Tom

road_high wrote: »

It’s their historical chip on their shoulder about the French (they never really got over them) or the evil Germans who became The powerhouse of Europe.

And this chip they have has been carefully nurtured by a vile press/media who could not care less about their well-being.

'4 years ago these people couldn't have cared less about European politics. Now they act like this is the pinnacle of their lives'.

twitter.com/CallumJones

Big Gerry

Its a great day for freedom loving people across Europe.


Hopefully it won't be too long before Ireland leaves the EU.


Roll on Irexit.

MrMusician18

Big Gerry wrote: »

Its a great day for freedom loving people across Europe.


Hopefully it won't be too long before Ireland leaves the EU.


Roll on Irexit.

Ireland is too integrated to leave the EU, we'd loose our currency and forfeit our loans (ironically the UK insisted that Ireland had to remain a member of the EU for the term of the loans to Ireland otherwise it would be considered in default).

No responsible government would ever put the question of Irish membership to the people now. We will only be ever asked about further integration in the future.

Big Gerry

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Ireland is too integrated to leave the EU, we'd loose our currency and forfeit our loans (ironically the UK insisted that Ireland had to remain a member of the EU for the term of the loans to Ireland otherwise it would be considered in default).

No responsible government would ever put the question of Irish membership to the people now. We will only be ever asked about further integration in the future.

Long term we will have to default on the loans.


Mathematically it won't even be possible to pay them back.

droidman123

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

And this chip they have has been carefully nurtured by a vile press/media who could not care less about their well-being.

'4 years ago these people couldn't have cared less about European politics. Now they act like this is the pinnacle of their lives'.

twitter.com/CallumJones

The village idiots who are obsessed with ww2 are still making fools of themselves

road_high

Big Gerry wrote: »

Its a great day for freedom loving people across Europe.


Hopefully it won't be too long before Ireland leaves the EU.


Roll on Irexit.

Except no one across Europe paid a blind bit of difference to today. I hope you’re patient as you’re in for a very long wait.
In the meantime why not move across to England and revel in the “freedom”? We have free movement within the CTA with the U.K. so anyone wishing to escape the tyranny that is the EU has an amazing safety valve just across the Irish Sea

redcup342

completedit wrote: »

LMAO, there's nothing cringier than pro EU types belittling the British. EU is grand, suits Ireland and it has many benefits but **** it, the sky didn't fall down last night. and people were predicting civil war and all sorts which obviously was never gonna happen. I think people genuinely wanted some ****show to go down for some macabre entertainment reasons.

Not really ... It's pretty much like watching your mate with a broken leg deciding he's going to go on a pub crawl by himself screaming "I'm grand go and f*ck yourself"

Don't really know why any self respecting Irish person would support the Brits either, if Ireland wasn't part of the EU any trade negotiations with the Empire wouldn't involve any vaseline or a glove they'd just go in dry.

Scotland will be out as soon as is possible, the Logic of Brexit was "We can make our own laws" as soon as Westminster starts making their own laws Edinburgh wil be waiting to exploit it.

As soon as people up North with burgundy passports realise they don't have the same (enforceable) rights and opportunities as people with blue passports that's will be a problem as well.

Shame really, it's downhill for the United Kingdom from here on out, nothing to do with the European Union anymore, it's not really a financial issue either, they are deeply divided and that's the main issue for any Union like the UK.

SharpshooterTom

Andrew00 wrote: »

"yew fackin Irish bastids"
"fack the pope"
"cam on Chelsea"

https://twitter.com/DenByrne2/status/1223383643546169346?s=09

There's a lot of anti-Irish racism in the UK. No one should be surprised by a country that historically hates us (bar some sad west brits).

We should continue to look towards the EU and the US who have a more favourable opinion towards us.

Couldn't honestly care less about the UK, they're out, good riddance.

dan1895

Big Gerry wrote: »

Its a great day for freedom loving people across Europe.


Hopefully it won't be too long before Ireland leaves the EU.


Roll on Irexit.

Gas how on here and on other social media platforms people who are calling for Ireland to come out of the EU have only signed up to said social media in the last few weeks.

completedit

redcup342 wrote: »

Not really ... It's pretty much like watching your mate with a broken leg deciding he's going to go on a pub crawl by himself screaming "I'm grand go and f*ck yourself"

Don't really know why any self respecting Irish person would support the Brits either, if Ireland wasn't part of the EU any trade negotiations with the Empire wouldn't involve any vaseline or a glove they'd just go in dry.

Scotland will be out as soon as is possible, the Logic of Brexit was "We can make our own laws" as soon as Westminster starts making their own laws Edinburgh wil be waiting to exploit it.

As soon as people up North with burgundy passports realise they don't have the same (enforceable) rights and opportunities as people with blue passports that's will be a problem as well.

Shame really, it's downhill for the United Kingdom from here on out, nothing to do with the European Union anymore, it's not really a financial issue either, they are deeply divided and that's the main issue for any Union like the UK.

When I said pro EU types I actually meant Europeans, as in mainland/continental Europeans. I was away for the last year and people just haven’t a clue. Also, the EU isn’t that liked throughout Europe AT ALL but no country has had a visionary of Farage nor the perfect storm of events to make it happen. For a lot of countries, it’s just like what’s the alternative, not out of some devout love for the EU. But some Irish people act like the EU is the most amazing thing ever. That’s okay, if that’s your opinion, I’m actually pro MORE integration but people are entitled to an alternative if that’s what they want. Just like the UK, the EU won’t be around forever and life will adjust. UK will probably be worse off after the dust of Brexit has settled but for majority life will go on as usual

lawred2

dan1895 wrote: »

Gas how on here and on other social media platforms people who are calling for Ireland to come out of the EU have only signed up to said social media in the last few weeks.

This is an iterative process.. Ireland is next in the firing line..

Wait for some of our newspapers getting in on the act in the near future..

I'm not being facetious. I fully expect it.

dan1895

lawred2 wrote: »

This is an iterative process.. Ireland is next in the firing line..

Wait for some of our newspapers getting in on the act in the near future..

I'm not being facetious. I fully expect it.

Not sure what the best course of action is, ignore or call out?

beggars_bush

Going on holidays to the continent this summer, wonder how often I'll have to say I'm Irish?

I met a group of French people on the top of a 3500m mountain last summer and they mistook me for a Brit when I said hello. They apologised profusely and then asked what is going on with Brexit? We all just shrugged our shoulders and laughed.

completedit

Europeans haven't got a clue. I never felt more connection with the Brits than when I lived abroad.

Zebra3

MrMusician18 wrote: »

we'd loose our currency

What currency would that be?

We gave up our own currency in the last century.

The currency we use now is the rebranded DM.

Pinch Flat

Big Gerry wrote: »

Its a great day for freedom loving people across Europe.


Hopefully it won't be too long before Ireland leaves the EU.


Roll on Irexit.

Cant wait. Mass unemployment, massive interest rates and a worthless punt nua.

nigeldaniel

Irexit... God no, we would be at the mercy of the farmers again

Tony EH

beggars_bush wrote: »

Going on holidays to the continent this summer, wonder how often I'll have to say I'm Irish?

I met a group of French people on the top of a 3500m mountain last summer and they mistook me for a Brit when I said hello. They apologised profusely and then asked what is going on with Brexit? We all just shrugged our shoulders and laughed.

Probably not that often and then more than likely only as an answer to "Where are you from?"

Most Europeans don't really give a toss about Britain or it's Brexit.

biko

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Cant wait. Mass unemployment, massive interest rates and a worthless punt nua.

Big Gerry

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Cant wait. Mass unemployment, massive interest rates and a worthless punt nua.

Less than 10 years ago we had mass unemployment and not only did the EU not help us but they forced us to take on a 60 Billion Euro debt that was not ours.

With "friends" like that who needs enemies ?

The punt would not be worthless back in the 1990s it was worth more sterling.

Tony EH

We went cap in hand to the EU looking for a dig out. The EU didn't "force" us to do anything.

Big Gerry

Tony EH wrote: »

We went cap in hand to the EU looking for a dig out. The EU didn't "force" us to do anything.

They threatened to wipe out the economy if we didn't ask for a "bailout".

https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/the-ecb-letter-was-a-gun-stuck-in-the-ear-of-the-government-leading-economist-30723102.html

Former Minister for Finance Brian Lenihan had "a loaded gun pointed in his ear” when it came to the ECB letter sent to the Irish Government in 2010, a leading economist has said.
Chief Economist of the world’s largest bond trading firm Pimco, Paul McCulley said the late Minister for Finance had" very little choice" when it came to the ECB’s letter to the Irish Government.
The secret letter, sent on 19 November 2010, threatened to cut off all funding, unless Ireland immediately applied for a bailout.

Big Gerry

road_high wrote: »

Except no one across Europe paid a blind bit of difference to today. I hope you’re patient as you’re in for a very long wait.
In the meantime why not move across to England and revel in the “freedom”? We have free movement within the CTA with the U.K. so anyone wishing to escape the tyranny that is the EU has an amazing safety valve just across the Irish Sea

I will stay here and fight for Ireland.


But I think the remainers in the UK should all move to Europe if they love the EU so much.

Tony EH

Big Gerry wrote: »

They threatened to wipe out the economy if we didn't ask for a "bailout".

https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/the-ecb-letter-was-a-gun-stuck-in-the-ear-of-the-government-leading-economist-30723102.html

We fucked it up ourselves and went looking for a loan.

SharpshooterTom

completedit wrote: »

Europeans haven't got a clue. I never felt more connection with the Brits than when I lived abroad.

Not sure they like you, a lot of Brits absolutely despise the Irish.

road_high

Big Gerry wrote: »

I will stay here and fight for Ireland.


But I think the remainers in the UK should all move to Europe if they love the EU so much.

Wow so childish nonsense. “Anyone that doesn’t agree with me should leave...”

Misery junkies like yourself are exactly the types that unfortunate never leave and contribute diddly squat to Ireland.

Big Gerry

Big Gerry wrote: »

Less than 10 years ago we had mass unemployment and not only did the EU not help us but they forced us to take on a 60 Billion Euro debt that was not ours.

With "friends" like that who needs enemies ?

The punt would not be worthless back in the 1990s it was worth more sterling.

The typical exchange rate was IR£1.10 to 1.20 = STG£1.00 throughout the 1980s up until the Euro came out.


So in fact the Irish Punt was worth less than the pound sterling on the international currency markets.

ThomasFlynn

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Not sure they like you, a lot of Brits absolutely despise the Irish.

The troubles and what the IRA did in the UK from the 70s to the 90s has left a bitter taste in the mouths of many in the 40+ age bracket.

SharpshooterTom

Deleted User wrote: »

The troubles and what the IRA did in the UK from the 70s to the 90s has left a bitter taste in the mouths of many in the 40+ age bracket.

Anti Irish prejudice existed long before the troubles. Hostility towards the Irish has existed for centuries and will continue to do so.

ThomasFlynn

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Anti Irish prejudice existed long before the troubles. Hostility towards the Irish has existed for centuries and will continue to do so.

True, but the troubles ignited that dislike to epic levels, I know, I lived through it.
until I lost the Irish accent!