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2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

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    #3512
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    LOL. I highly doubt that. Have you watched any of the White House press conferences recently? Kayleigh McEnany versus the Press isn’t really a fair fight. She’s mopping the floor with the corrupt press that are more interested in injecting themselves into stories than getting the news.

    i've been watching them since this covid thing started. all a big democratic hoax apparently.


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    #3513
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    notobtuse wrote: »
    All of a sudden there’s faux outrage? Did you not know Trump has been hitting Scarborough with this very thing since 2017?

    Joe and Mika have now been insinuating Trump has blood on his hands because of COVID-19.

    "We’ve heard that nobody could’ve seen this coming. The fact is, everybody saw this coming. Everybody saw this coming in early January,” Scarborough said.

    Yeah, right. There was not even a mention of the coronavirus on Joe’s show until January 24 when they had an expert on the show who stated said Americans should worry about the flu, not the Coronavirus. Was there any concern from Joe about what the ‘expert’ said? No, Scarborough was far more afraid of what the world thought of America because of Trump, and that the country was in grave danger if Trump was not impeached, than any virus from China.

    But it's okay, we really know what's going on... Orange Man Bad.

    Ah ok , he'd been baselessly accusing someone of Murder and dragging the name of an innocent women in the dirt and making her family miserable for 3 years.

    Well that makes it perfectly alright then , I mean as long as he's been doing it for years , I'm mean surely the family are used to it by now and it doesn't matter to them any more, I mean she's dead nearly 20 years - They should just get over it!!.

    I don't really care what Trump wants to call Joe Scarborough directly , Don't get me wrong , he's a pathetic school-yard bully and proves daily that he is utterly incapable of behaving like a normal decent human being , but Scarborough is in the public eye and a former politician , he's able to defend himself and has a platform with which to do so.

    But - the family of the dead woman are none of those things and they have to read and listen to disgusting lies about their Daughter/Sister/Wife just so a shallow insecure 73 year old can get back at someone who said something mean about him...

    It's pathetic and so is trying to defend or excuse it.


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    #3514
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Try to defend the indefensible and then just ignore people in the hope they go away I see.

    when the message is impossible to counteract go after the messenger. Apparently i was lying when i said i got the info from trump press conferences and tweets. i think it is time to put them on ignore.


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    #3515
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Trump having to put a propaganda mouthpiece in as press secretary to read his scripts says a lot.

    This job (much like his) should be one to convey important issues to the public on the governments behalf, not to tell everyone how great Donald is and how the evil press are persecuting him.

    He's so insecure and afraid of the bad people saying bad things about him, he spends his life attacking anyone that doesnt agree with what he does. Running the country is a burden of a side project to his crap and if the position wasnt needed to further his opinion of himself , he wouldn't bother with it.


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    #3516
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Trump having to put a propaganda mouthpiece in as press secretary to read his scripts says a lot.

    This job (much like his) should be one to convey important issues to the public on the governments behalf, not to tell everyone how great Donald is and how the evil press are persecuting him.

    He's so insecure and afraid of the bad people saying bad things about him, he spends his life attacking anyone that doesnt agree with what he does. Running the country is a burden of a side project to his crap and if the position wasnt needed to further his opinion of himself , he wouldn't bother with it.
    No, the White House press corps have abandoned all professionalism and are more interested in grandstanding than getting any information from the press briefings. They’ve been biased against republicans and suck-ups to democrats for decades. But in the Trump era the press corps are practicing journalistic malpractice.

    Are you mad because McEnany is calling them out for what they are?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3517
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    No, the White House press corps have abandoned all professionalism and are more interested in grandstanding than getting any information from the press briefings. They’ve been biased against republicans and suck-ups to democrats for decades. But in the Trump era the press corps are practicing journalistic malpractice.

    Are you mad because McEnany is calling them out for what they are?

    all i read from that is "wah wah wah the mean press people are out to get me".


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    #3518
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,575 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    notobtuse wrote: »
    All of a sudden there’s faux outrage? Did you not know Trump has been hitting Scarborough with this very thing since 2017?

    Joe and Mika have now been insinuating Trump has blood on his hands because of COVID-19.

    "We’ve heard that nobody could’ve seen this coming. The fact is, everybody saw this coming. Everybody saw this coming in early January,” Scarborough said.

    Yeah, right. There was not even a mention of the coronavirus on Joe’s show until January 24 when they had an expert on the show who stated said Americans should worry about the flu, not the Coronavirus.     Was there any concern from Joe about what the ‘expert’ said? No, Scarborough was far more afraid of what the world thought of America because of Trump, and that the country was in grave danger if Trump was not impeached, than any virus from China.

    But it's okay, we really know what's going on... Orange Man Bad.

    If that's your thesis then

    https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-intelligence-warned-trump-of-pandemic-in-january-2020-3


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    #3519
    rossie1977
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    No, the White House press corps have abandoned all professionalism and are more interested in grandstanding than getting any information from the press briefings. They’ve been biased against republicans and suck-ups to democrats for decades. But in the Trump era the press corps are practicing journalistic malpractice.

    Are you mad because McEnany is calling them out for what they are?

    Get away with that.

    Press made every single thing a public scandal under previous administration. Under Obama we heard nothing but Benghazi, emails, drones for years. Hillary's emails were front page news on NY Times 13 out of the last 14 days of the run in to 2016 election

    Trump's getting off lightly. Obama got torn apart for the stupidest stuff by the media. We never hear anything in the media about Trump's bankruptcies, his foundation/university failures and lawsuits, his sexual assault allegations. He had sex with a porn star while his wife was pregnant and the media reported on it for one day and moved on..imagine that was Obama he would have been lynched



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    #3520
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Get away with that.

    Press made every single thing a public scandal. Under Obama we heard nothing but Benghazi, emails, drones for years. Hillary's emails were front page news on NY Times 13 out of the last 14 days of the run in to 2016 election

    Trump's getting off lightly. Obama got torn apart for the stupidest stuff by the media. We never hear anything in the media about Trump's bankruptcies, his foundation/university failures and lawsuits, his sexual assault allegations. He had sex with a porn star while his wife was pregnantand the media reported on it for one day and moved on..imagine that was Obama he would have been lynched
    Not from the press corps you didn't hear anything about that. They were too concerned with how Obama felt that day and if there was anything that was interfering with his awesomeness.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3521
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    notobtuse wrote: »
    No, the White House press corps have abandoned all professionalism and are more interested in grandstanding than getting any information from the press briefings. They’ve been biased against republicans and suck-ups to democrats for decades. But in the Trump era the press corps are practicing journalistic malpractice.

    Are you mad because McEnany is calling them out for what they are?

    You sticking by the opinion that the President of America accusing someone of being a murderer is just "politically stupid" but otherwise ok?


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    #3522
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,770 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265271286789558273

    Trump is a twisted sick individual. Anyone else posting this sh!te would be censored by Twitter through a ban.


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    #3523
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    You sticking by the opinion that the President of America accusing someone of being a murderer is just "politically stupid" but otherwise ok?
    The president of America is still a citizen and guaranteed rights under the First Amendment, or so I’ve been told. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t he just wondering why a more thorough investigation into the matter hasn’t taken place?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3524
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    The president of America is still a citizen and guaranteed rights under the First Amendment, or so I’ve been told. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t he just wondering why a more thorough investigation into the matter hasn’t taken place?

    only the densest of readings could take that from trumps tweets.


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    #3525
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    notobtuse wrote: »
    The president of America is still a citizen and guaranteed rights under the First Amendment, or so I’ve been told. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t he just wondering why a more thorough investigation into the matter hasn’t taken place?

    So you're sticking to the opinion he did nothing wrong?

    You dont think he should be held to any higher account than some random person? Can anyone just accuse anyone else of being a murderer without any proof and thats ok? If the media printed a story saying you were a rapist, you'd just say thats grand, yeah?

    The office of president is worth nothing more than the job of some Plumber? He doesnt have any obligation to be truthfull on anything? Good to know your standard of leaders youre ok with. But yeah, its the media thats lying to everyone.......

    And you bull****ting and using his lines like "Correct me if I'm wrong " doesn't make anything true. There was an investigation. One that the family are fine with. What does he or you know more than them?


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    #3526
    Dillonb3
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265271286789558273

    Trump is a twisted sick individual. Anyone else posting this sh!te would be censored by Twitter through a ban.

    The widower has already wrote a letter to twitter asking for the tweets Trump and his son posted to be deleted

    https://twitter.com/DelWilber/status/1265234465632276482?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1265234465632276482&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231265234465632276482


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    #3527
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Hmmm... apparently criminal referrals are now imminent in the Obamagate probe. Looks like criminal referrals will even be added to some of Mueller’s DNC supporting and Clinton/Foundation lawyers who somehow got onto the Mueller suspect investigative team, according to Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee. I suspect when faced with jail-time even some of Obama’s loyalists are now providing information into the attempted coup of Trump’s presidency.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3528
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Hmmm... apparently criminal referrals are now imminent in the Obamagate probe. Looks like criminal referrals will even be added to some of Mueller’s DNC supporting and Clinton/Foundation lawyers who somehow got onto the Mueller suspect investigative team, according to Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee. I suspect when faced with jail-time even some of Obama’s loyalists are now providing information into the attempted coup of Trump’s presidency.

    you said the same thing before and the next day Barr said there would be no criminal charges.


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    #3529
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    So you're sticking to the opinion he did nothing wrong?

    You dont think he should be held to any higher account than some random person? Can anyone just accuse anyone else of being a murderer without any proof and thats ok? If the media printed a story saying you were a rapist, you'd just say thats grand, yeah?

    The office of president is worth nothing more than the job of some Plumber? He doesnt have any obligation to be truthfull on anything? Good to know your standard of leaders youre ok with. But yeah, its the media thats lying to everyone.......

    And you bull****ting and using his lines like "Correct me if I'm wrong " doesn't make anything true. There was an investigation. One that the family are fine with. What does he or you know more than them?
    I think the president, the House, the Senate and the media should be held to a higher standard, but that higher standard shouldn't be expected of only one person, while the rest get a pass.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3530
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I think the president, the House, the Senate and the media should be held to a higher standard, but that higher standard shouldn't be expected of only one person, while the rest get a pass.

    which members of the house or senate have publicly accused somebody of murder?


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    #3531
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I think the president, the House, the Senate and the media should be held to a higher standard, but that higher standard shouldn't be expected of only one person, while the rest get a pass.

    Nice waffly answer again.

    The president is using his position and influence to spread lies about someone being a murderer.

    Thats not ok.

    But of course, if someone turns up on the doorstep of her husband, her parents or scarborough with a gun it wont be Donalds fault, he didnt tell them to do anything.


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    #3532
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you said the same thing before and the next day Barr said there would be no criminal charges.
    Making stuff up again, I see. Barr only said there probably wouldn't be an investigation into Obama and Biden. That doesn't rule out one or more of the Obama/Biden cronies ratting out their bosses in order to avoid jail-time.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3533
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    which members of the house or senate have publicly accused somebody of murder?

    Without any evidence.

    You have to make questions water tight, because he'll just stick up a link to someone calling an actual murderer a murderer and claim victory.


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    #3534
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    notobtuse just can't bring himself to say "daddy, maybe you've gone a bit too far on this one"

    A true cultist


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    #3535
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Making stuff up again, I see. Barr only said there probably wouldn't be an investigation into Obama and Biden. That doesn't rule out one or more of the Obama/Biden cronies ratting out their bosses in order to avoid jail-time.

    you made the claim before about other rolling over on trump and biden. it didnt happen did it? i suppose you have a really good source for your latest claims?


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    #3536
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    which members of the house or senate have publicly accused somebody of murder?
    I don't know about murder but I do know of a bunch of House members, Senate members, and the media calling for investigations into Trump for the baseless Trump-Russian collusion hoax. And if memory serves me correctly... they got that investigation. Hell, they even came up with a bogus impeachment that will go down as one of the greatest travesties and abuse of power of the Democrat controlled House.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3537
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I don't know about murder but I do know of a bunch of House members, Senate members, and the media calling for investigations into Trump for the baseless Trump-Russian collusion hoax. And if memory serves me correctly... they got that investigation. Hell, they even came up with a bogus impeachment that will go down as one of the greatest travesties and abuse of power of the Democrat controlled House.

    nothing bogus about the impeachment. all above board.


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    #3538
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you made the claim before about other rolling over on trump and biden. it didnt happen did it? i suppose you have a really good source for your latest claims?
    Please keep up. I said "I suspect," and I already listed the source of my information... Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3539
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Please keep up. I said "I suspect," and I already listed the source of my information... Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee.

    Devin Nunes? the man who is suing a cow? :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D


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    #3540
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    nothing bogus about the impeachment. all above board.
    They could have impeached Trump because they didn't like the color of his tie. They made up a reason. It's a political maneuver, not a legal one, as it should be.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3541
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    They could have impeached Trump because they didn't like the color of his tie. They made up a reason. It's a political maneuver, not a legal one, as it should be.

    sure Jan.


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