2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

notobtuse

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

sure Jan.

Okay, Karen.

ohnonotgmail

notobtuse wrote: »

Okay, Karen.

if anybody is a karen its a republican. the ones going around coughing and spitting on shop assistants asking them to wear a mask . the kind of behavior trump approves of and encourages.

Cody montana

About to hit 100 thousand Covid deaths.

Wouldn’t have hit this figure under other presidents.

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

Please keep up. I said "I suspect," and I already listed the source of my information... Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee.

Well that explains a lot. He's not very credible now is he, having been implicated as a conspirator with lev parnas and company.

Clearly not a man of his word

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/politics/devin-nunes-lev-parnas-phone-calls/index.html

notobtuse

Cody montana wrote: »

About to hit 100 thousand Covid deaths.

Wouldn’t have hit this figure under other presidents.

It most probably would have been much more. Other presidents, well, democratic presidents at least, would probably have followed Cuomo and my governor Wolf's leads and sent massive amounts of elderly to their deaths in nursing homes.

Here's a lovely guy who was sent to a nursing home because nursing homes had to take in COVID-19 patients by order of the Michigan Democrat governor.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/22/care-home-patient-beaten-in-brutal-attack-caught-on-video/

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

It most probably would have been much more. Other presidents, well, democratic presidents at least, would probably have followed Cuomo and my governor Wolf's leads and sent massive amounts of elderly to their deaths in nursing homes.

Here's a lovely guy who was sent to a nursing home because nursing homes had to take in COVID-19 patients by order of the Michigan Democrat governor.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/22/care-home-patient-beaten-in-brutal-attack-caught-on-video/

When Obama was president we had, at most, 12,469 dead from a pandemic.

The facts don't suit you.

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

Making stuff up again, I see. Barr only said there probably wouldn't be an investigation into Obama and Biden. That doesn't rule out one or more of the Obama/Biden cronies ratting out their bosses in order to avoid jail-time.

Keep dreaming

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

I don't know about murder but I do know of a bunch of House members, Senate members, and the media calling for investigations into Trump for the baseless Trump-Russian collusion hoax. And if memory serves me correctly... they got that investigation. Hell, they even came up with a bogus impeachment that will go down as one of the greatest travesties and abuse of power of the Democrat controlled House.

Plenty of base, you just didn't like it so you pretend it doesn't exist.

Igotadose

notobtuse wrote: »

It most probably would have been much more. Other presidents, well, democratic presidents at least, would probably have followed Cuomo and my governor Wolf's leads and sent massive amounts of elderly to their deaths in nursing homes.

Here's a lovely guy who was sent to a nursing home because nursing homes had to take in COVID-19 patients by order of the Michigan Democrat governor.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/22/care-home-patient-beaten-in-brutal-attack-caught-on-video/

Followed the federal governments recommendation I guess.

Wait. There weren't any. Or if they were, they got redone and eventually dribbled out.

No responsibility leadership at its best.

Cody montana

notobtuse wrote: »

It most probably would have been much more. Other presidents, well, democratic presidents at least, would probably have followed Cuomo and my governor Wolf's leads and sent massive amounts of elderly to their deaths in nursing homes.

Here's a lovely guy who was sent to a nursing home because nursing homes had to take in COVID-19 patients by order of the Michigan Democrat governor.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/22/care-home-patient-beaten-in-brutal-attack-caught-on-video/

If it was any other president, there would have been

Honesty
Reliability
Decency
Organisation
Clarity
Leadership

Brian?

notobtuse wrote: »

The president of America is still a citizen and guaranteed rights under the First Amendment, or so I’ve been told. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t he just wondering why a more thorough investigation into the matter hasn’t taken place?

You can tell yourself that to try to make yourself feel better. But it’s a lie.

Brian?

notobtuse wrote: »

Hmmm... apparently criminal referrals are now imminent in the Obamagate probe. Looks like criminal referrals will even be added to some of Mueller’s DNC supporting and Clinton/Foundation lawyers who somehow got onto the Mueller suspect investigative team, according to Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee. I suspect when faced with jail-time even some of Obama’s loyalists are now providing information into the attempted coup of Trump’s presidency.

No they aren’t. No they won’t. Your suspicions will amount to nothing. There was no attempted coup, that’s parroting hyperbole you read somewhere.

notobtuse

Cody montana wrote: »

If it was any other president, there would have been

Honesty
Reliability
Decency
Organisation
Clarity
Leadership

Pipe dreams are alive and well and living in Current Affairs, apparently. I have to laugh. Many of the ‘expert’ journalists and democrats warned us Trump would become a pseudo dictator when he became president. Yet in the coronavirus pandemic he merely set federal guidelines and let each state decide what was best for themselves regarding how they handled COVID-19. Some dictator… Following the US Constitution regarding state’s rights?

Brian?

notobtuse wrote: »

Pipe dreams are alive and well and living in Current Affairs, apparently. I have to laugh. Many of the ‘expert’ journalists and democrats warned us Trump would become a pseudo dictator when he became president. Yet in the coronavirus pandemic he merely set federal guidelines and let each state decide what was best for themselves regarding how they handled COVID-19. Some dictator… Following the US Constitution regarding state’s rights?

So his lack of leadership was real leadership? 4D chess again....

Kermit.de.frog

notobtuse wrote: »

It most probably would have been much more. Other presidents, well, democratic presidents at least, would probably have followed Cuomo and my governor Wolf's leads and sent massive amounts of elderly to their deaths in nursing homes.

Here's a lovely guy who was sent to a nursing home because nursing homes had to take in COVID-19 patients by order of the Michigan Democrat governor.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/22/care-home-patient-beaten-in-brutal-attack-caught-on-video/

I wonder what people like you are going to do when this loser is tossed out in November.

He is a nasty debased individual with no dignity, no respect, no quantifiable intellect and the kick is he despises the very people who support him most.

They themselves don't have the requisite intellect or self respect to realise it.

A disaster of a man and president.

Enjoy these final months of this debasement of a once great office and nation.

Overheal

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I wonder what people like you are going to do when this loser is tossed out in November.

He is a nasty debased individual with no dignity, no respect, no quantifiable intellect and the kick is he despises the very people who support him most.

They themselves don't have the requisite intellect or self respect to realise it.

A disaster of a man and president.

Enjoy these final months of this debasement of a once great office and nation.

They go back to pretending they are the resistance of course, without any sense of irony.

DrumSteve

notobtuse wrote: »

Pipe dreams are alive and well and living in Current Affairs, apparently. I have to laugh. Many of the ‘expert’ journalists and democrats warned us Trump would become a pseudo dictator when he became president. Yet in the coronavirus pandemic he merely set federal guidelines and let each state decide what was best for themselves regarding how they handled COVID-19. Some dictator… Following the US Constitution regarding state’s rights?

He's following the constitution because when he pulled that little stunt a few weeks back saying he had total authority he got bitch slapped down.

You already knew this though.

Overheal

DrumSteve wrote: »

He's following the constitution because when he pulled that little stunt a few weeks back saying he had total authority he got bitch slapped down.

You already knew this though.

The willful acts of disinformation are all part of his "common and effective tactics in the social media political battleground."

notobtuse

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I wonder what people like you are going to do when this loser is tossed out in November.

He is a nasty debased individual with no dignity, no respect, no quantifiable intellect and the kick is he despises the very people who support him most.

They themselves don't have the requisite intellect or self respect to realise it.

A disaster of a man and president.

Enjoy these final months of this debasement of a once great office and nation.

Oh, I'll continue to do what I’ve always done, regardless if Trump wins or not… fight for what is right and condemn what is wrong. If I survived a President Obama, I can survive a President Biden... but just barely.

What will you do if Trump wins reelection? Cry?

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

Oh, I'll continue to do what I’ve always done, regardless if Trump wins or not… fight for what is right and condemn what is wrong. If I survived a President Obama, I can survive a President Biden... but just barely.

What will you do if Trump wins reelection? Cry?

So not about what's true or what's false, just what is right or wrong with your narrative. I see. We see.

astrofool

notobtuse wrote: »

Oh, I'll continue to do what I’ve always done, regardless if Trump wins or not… fight for what is right and condemn what is wrong. If I survived a President Obama, I can survive a President Biden... but just barely.

What will you do if Trump wins reelection? Cry?

I think most republicans are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome with Trump as president.

It really is a case of any Republican will do, no matter how dumb, nasty, narcissistic and low brow he may be.

The latest "Trumpgate" shouting really is falling back to the "Come on people!" style of debating. nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Though you have to laugh at the previous poster thinking The Guardian was defending BoJo, talk about bubble living.

Overheal

Biden within 3 points of Trump in Utah, which Trump won by 18 points in 2016

https://www.mediaite.com/news/joe-biden-within-3-points-of-trump-in-utah-trump-won-by-18-points-in-2016/

a UtahPolicy.com/KUTV 2 poll that shows Trump barely ahead of Biden, with 44 percent support to the ex-veep’s 41 percent. The poll had a margin of error of +/- three points, making this a statistical tie.

BonnieSituation

Blueshoe wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1263658320310796291?s=19


New tweet

The video is vile. Nothing to criticise for Trump here.

Edit: Didn't realise I was in CA. Eek. * runs *

Overheal

https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1265335088784576518?s=20

duploelabs

astrofool wrote: »

I think most republicans are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome with Trump as president.

It really is a case of any Republican will do, no matter how dumb, nasty, narcissistic and low brow he may be.

The latest "Trumpgate" shouting really is falling back to the "Come on people!" style of debating. nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Though you have to laugh at the previous poster thinking The Guardian was defending BoJo, talk about bubble living.

More like sunk cost fallacy

The bygones principle does not accord with real-world behavior. Sunk costs do, in fact, influence people's decisions, with people believing that investments (i.e., sunk costs) justify further expenditures. People demonstrate "a greater tendency to continue an endeavor once an investment in money, effort, or time has been made." This is the sunk cost fallacy, and such behavior may be described as "throwing good money after bad," while refusing to succumb to what may be described as "cutting one's losses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost?wprov=sfla1

notobtuse

BonnieSituation wrote: »

The video is vile. Nothing to criticise for Trump here.

Edit: Didn't realise I was in CA. Eek. * runs *

Oh, the water's just fine... and we have cookies.

Overheal

Looks like the latest press briefing was a trainwreck for that poor press secretary. Out of her league.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-pbs-yamiche-alcindor-grills-mcenany-on-trumps-scarborough-tweets-press-secretary-frantically-uses-her-oan-lifeline/

ohnonotgmail

notobtuse wrote: »

No, the White House press corps have abandoned all professionalism and are more interested in grandstanding than getting any information from the press briefings. They’ve been biased against republicans and suck-ups to democrats for decades. But in the Trump era the press corps are practicing journalistic malpractice.

Are you mad because McEnany is calling them out for what they are?

Overheal wrote: »

Looks like the latest press briefing was a trainwreck for that poor press secretary. Out of her league.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-pbs-yamiche-alcindor-grills-mcenany-on-trumps-scarborough-tweets-press-secretary-frantically-uses-her-oan-lifeline/

notobtuse thinks she is doing a great job

Overheal

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

notobtuse thinks she is doing a great job

And yeah its the press grandstanding, right

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/wh-briefing-chaos-kayleigh-mcenany-uses-oan-softball-to-go-on-wild-flynn-rant-complete-with-slides-then-flees-podium/

She rigged a softball from OAN to engage on a 1-woman diatribe, complete with powerpoint slides (who brings powerpoint slides to answer a question you didn't plan ahead of time?)

notobtuse

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

notobtuse thinks she is doing a great job

As I said before it was a politically stupid comment by Trump. Tough position for her. Notice though the press doesn’t seem to care one iota that Joe and Mika claim Trump’s responsible for 100,000 deaths and have drug Trump’s family members through the mud. I guess with the press the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many... only as long as that one can do damage to Trump, that is.

And by the way... nothing to see here, please move along?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26WwTu28Ido