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2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

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    #3602
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Overheal wrote: »
    And you have the gall to call the other the metaphor? Wow.

    I've asked many times already, no-one is kind enough to answer perhaps you can.

    If that's not what he meant "Diseases aren't stopped at borders" What did he mean?

    I'll remind you that in that USA article published Jan 28th (3 days before Trump's policy of quarantining anyone coming from Hubei was enacted-which Biden knew was coming).

    Also the entire first paragraph of that USA article was talking about how Trump has mismanaged the situation, then ambiguously adds the text "Diseases don't stop at borders or walls".

    If he wasn't criticizing Trump's policy what was he doing?(A policy now nearly the whole world uses) What did he mean?
    Because in my mind that's exactly what he was doing criticizing Trump and spreading false science.

    And I was using the word 'metaphor' as ribbing at another poster.
    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    It's a metaphor. If you can't see the point he's making then that's fine.


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    #3603
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    it's good to know where your priorities lie and the levels youre willing to go to for an outright lying scumbag.

    Trump calls the pandemic a Democratic hoax while 100,000 people have died. encouraging people to refuse to wear masks, spreading the disease and killing more people.

    He calls a man a murderer without proof (worse than no proof, an investigation was carried out and either way, the guy was 900 miles away) , heaping pain on a family.

    Thats just 2 of a litany of scumbaggy **** he does without even getting in to him being a giant snowflakey baby.


    and your biggest issue is an argument of semantics about a commonly used phrase? ****ing hell, you need perspective in your life and a reality check of what actual issue are.


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    #3604
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    it's good to know where your priorities lie and the levels youre willing to go to for an outright lying scumbag.

    Trump calls the pandemic a Democratic hoax while 100,000 people have died. encouraging people to refuse to wear masks, spreading the disease and killing more people.

    He calls a man a murderer without proof (worse than no proof, an investigation was carried out and either way, the guy was 900 miles away) , heaping pain on a family.

    Thats just 2 of a litany of scumbaggy **** he does without even getting in to him being a giant snowflakey baby.


    and your biggest issue is an argument of semantics about a commonly used phrase? ****ing hell, you need perspective in your life and a reality check of what actual issue are.

    What's more important than anything else is the truth.


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    #3605
    Blueshoe
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    it's good to know where your priorities lie and the levels youre willing to go to for an outright lying scumbag.

    Trump calls the pandemic a Democratic hoax while 100,000 people have died. encouraging people to refuse to wear masks, spreading the disease and killing more people.

    He calls a man a murderer without proof (worse than no proof, an investigation was carried out and either way, the guy was 900 miles away) , heaping pain on a family.

    Thats just 2 of a litany of scumbaggy **** he does without even getting in to him being a giant snowflakey baby.


    and your biggest issue is an argument of semantics about a commonly used phrase? ****ing hell, you need perspective in your life and a reality check of what actual issue are.


    I believe he said that the democrats were politicising the virus.
    Guess what. They were.
    Everything is politicised


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    #3606
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    2u2me wrote: »
    What's more important than anything else is the truth.

    Thats all you took from that?

    Youre beyond help

    How come the truth doesnt matter when its donalds lies?

    you two are defending the indefensible.

    It's funny that everything that you throw at Biden is stuff that Trump has done numerous times.

    His tweets are proof for all to see (well all those that can see) what a childish , despicable person he is


    Ill stick it in again, for the umpteenth time and im sure itll be ignored like all the times before, If he was still a Democrat, youd be attacking him for all the stuff he does. Whether you admit in on here or not, you know it yourself, and thats pathetic.


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    #3607
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Thats all you took from that?

    Youre beyond help

    How come the truth doesnt matter when its donalds lies?

    you two are defending the indefensible.

    What indefensible was I defending exactly?


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    #3608
    Overheal
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    2u2me wrote: »
    What's more important than anything else is the truth.

    And the truth is:

    Diseases can cross borders.


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    #3609
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Blueshoe wrote: »

    Biden is confused, nervous and not up to the job

    Biden's behaviour is, well, presidential.



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    #3610
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    2u2me wrote: »
    What indefensible was I defending exactly?

    ignoring lies because they dont suit is as good as defending it. You'll say it isnt but youre only fooling yourself.

    You moved off the charity stuff pretty quick and back to ignoring what Trump does wrong to drag on a stupid argument about a phrase in the effort to bury Trumps **** in the thread.


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    #3611
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,578 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    2u2me wrote: »
    "Diseases aren't stopped at borders" What did he mean?

    You are surely misremembering what it is Joe Biden wrote.

    Joe Biden did not say "Diseases aren't stopped at borders," unless we are talking about 2 different events. I looked up your complaint initially and found an op-ed Joe Biden wrote in USA Today where he said"

    "Pandemic diseases are a prime example of why international cooperation is a requirement of leadership in 2020. Diseases do not stop at borders. They cannot be thwarted by building a wall. We cannot keep ourselves safe without helping to keep others safe as well and without enlisting the help of other nations in return. And here’s the truth — the United States must step forward to lead these efforts, because no other nation has the resources, the reach or the relationships to marshal an effective international response."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/27/coronavirus-donald-trump-made-us-less-prepared-joe-biden-column/4581710002/

    Perhaps this is a misunderstanding, if so it would explain why there seems to be a great deal of confusion about fact and truth here.


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    #3612
    2u2me
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    Overheal wrote: »
    And the truth is:

    Diseases can cross borders.

    What was Biden trying to say?

    WHat was his point? Obviously virus' on the nanoscale can cross borders it the most literal definiton of the sentence. But what did he mean?

    All of you guys will know exactly what Trump means when he says it. That's the problem; twitter is exactly the same. This new policy from twitter will not work out well, mark my words.


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    #3613
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    2u2me wrote: »
    What was Biden trying to say?

    WHat was his point? Obviously virus' on the nanoscale can cross borders it the most literal definiton of the sentence. But what did he mean?

    All of you guys will know exactly what Trump means when he says it. That's the problem; twitter is exactly the same. This new policy from twitter will not work out well, mark my words.

    Keep going, bury bury bury with Trumps ****. Ill wait till your done with that and repost it all for you.


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    #3614
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,578 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Regarding "Diseases aren't stopped at borders," 2u2me, if you got that version of the quote from somewhere else, that either appeared to be quoting his Op-ed or didn't say where the quote came from, I'd be interested to see it, in the interest of understanding the extent of disinformation warfare in 2020, and not as a reflection upon you.


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    #3615
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    ignoring lies because they dont suit is as good as defending it. You'll say it isnt but youre only fooling yourself.

    You moved off the charity stuff pretty quick and back to ignoring what Trump does wrong to drag on a stupid argument about a phrase in the effort to bury Trumps **** in the thread.

    I ignored lies? I'm currently standing up to a lie. You tell me perhaps what did Biden mean when he said "diseases don't cross borders"


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    #3616
    Blueshoe
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Keep going, bury bury bury with Trumps ****. Ill wait till your done with that and repost it all for you.

    When Trump wins again it's going to be hilarious. Night


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    #3617
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Overheal wrote: »
    Regarding "Diseases aren't stopped at borders," 2u2me, if you got that version of the quote from somewhere else, that either appeared to be quoting his Op-ed or didn't say where the quote came from, I'd be interested to see it, in the interest of understanding the extent of disinformation warfare in 2020, and not as a reflection upon you.

    You continually ignore the context of when the article was written and the date Trump enacted the Hubei policy. That stinks.

    Stinks.


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    #3618
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    2u2me wrote: »
    I ignored lies? I'm currently standing up to a lie. You tell me perhaps what did Biden mean when he said "diseases don't cross borders"

    Youre arguing semantics about a commonly used phrase. You ignore trump lies and bull**** and swiftly move on. Just like the charity stuff on the last page. Youre really willing to put the leg work in over this one phrase but wont spend much time on Trumps crap


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    #3619
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    When Trump wins again it's going to be hilarious. Night

    Even if he does it wont change any of the points on the thread,


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    #3620
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,578 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    2u2me wrote: »
    What was Biden trying to say?

    WHat was his point? Obviously virus' on the nanoscale can cross borders it the most literal definiton of the sentence. But what did he mean?

    All of you guys will know exactly what Trump means when he says it. That's the problem; twitter is exactly the same. This new policy from twitter will not work out well, mark my words.

    I think that's what he meant, in the one sentence. :o We can at least be common about that.

    You'd have to review his op-ed to see what all his thrust was:

    "Pandemic diseases are a prime example of why international cooperation is a requirement of leadership in 2020. Diseases do not stop at borders. They cannot be thwarted by building a wall. We cannot keep ourselves safe without helping to keep others safe as well and without enlisting the help of other nations in return. And here’s the truth — the United States must step forward to lead these efforts, because no other nation has the resources, the reach or the relationships to marshal an effective international response."


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    #3621
    2u2me
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Youre arguing semantics about a commonly used phrase.

    That's the whole point of where this discussion started. Twitter are adding 'fact-checking' to Trump's tweets. I was merely pointing out I'd like to see the policy fairly applied to everyone, but I doubt that will happen. I guess we can only watch this space.


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    #3622
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,578 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    2u2me wrote: »
    You continually ignore the context of when the article was written and the date Trump enacted the Hubei policy. That stinks.

    Stinks.

    I'm not gonna play hide the spoon.

    If you think I missed something, have the common courtesy to explain your point without the cryptic snark, please.

    I don't know what Hubei policy is and that's the first time I've seen the term.


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    #3623
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    2u2me wrote: »
    Twitter are adding 'fact-checking' to Trump's tweets. .

    Because hes telling outright blatant lies. all the time.

    Youve managed to drag a conversation about 1 phrase from Biden for hours. The fact that youve had to harp on the same thing for hours shows its nothing more than bluster.


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    #3624
    Overheal
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    The video was posted 18 hours ago and I'm no facebook expert but it doesn't appear to have been a livestream, so the incident could be older.

    https://www.facebook.com/darnellareallprettymarie/videos/1425398217661280/


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    #3625
    Overheal
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    If Jack Dorsey has brass balls, he will slap another fact check on this

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265427539008380928?s=20

    "<!> Learn the facts about Free speech"


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    #3626
    osarusan
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    His twitter rants really are a joke. What a child he is.


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    #3627
    ohnonotgmail
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    I wonder what is going on here
    https://twitter.com/TeresaB444/status/1264981259408879617


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    #3628
    DrumSteve
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    Overheal wrote: »
    If Jack Dorsey has brass balls, he will slap another fact check on this

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265427539008380928?s=20

    "<!> Learn the facts about Free speech"

    He is the biggest whinger I've ever seen in my whole life.

    How can anyone think this bum is presidential is beyond me.


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    #3629
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    I wonder what is going on here
    https://twitter.com/TeresaB444/status/1264981259408879617

    The hydroxychloroquine kicking in, he's being attacked by covid19


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    #3630
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 22,017 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    2u2me wrote: »
    That's the whole point of where this discussion started. Twitter are adding 'fact-checking' to Trump's tweets. I was merely pointing out I'd like to see the policy fairly applied to everyone, but I doubt that will happen. I guess we can only watch this space.
    "Fact checking" only applies to the right though.
    The democrats/liberals etc don't get these nonsense bots.


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    #3631
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    ELM327 wrote: »
    "Fact checking" only applies to the right though.
    The democrats/liberals etc don't get these nonsense bots.

    perhaps they should try lying a little less and then they wouldn't have to fact check tweets.


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