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2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

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    #3812
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Brian? wrote: »
    They got the most votes, not the majority of votes. That's a pretty simple difference.

    Clinton got the most votes and the majority of votes in 2016.

    No they got the most. The highest number of first preferences.
    Our system is odd.
    Passing votes down and around.
    Ends up in the like of Eamon Ryan getting into a position of power.
    That's for another thread though


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    #3813
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,599 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    notobtuse wrote: »
    You don't think he was trolling the biased media to make their collective heads explode? That's what he does... and they fall for it every time.

    Igotadose has the gift


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    #3814
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    notobtuse wrote: »
    You don't think he was trolling the biased media to make their collective heads explode? That's what he does... and they fall for it every time.

    No, no he wasn't.

    There is absolutely zero evidence anywhere in the entire history of Donald Trump to indicate that he has a sense of humour or the ability to use sarcasm or anything close to it.

    What we do have however are decades of examples of him blurting out something mind numbingly stupid and when called out for the stupidity attempting to cover it up by suggesting he was joking or being sarcastic.

    To quote someone else on here recently - "Donald Trump isn't playing 4D chess , he's eating the pieces so no one else can play"


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    #3815
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    No, no he wasn't.

    There is absolutely zero evidence anywhere in the entire history of Donald Trump to indicate that he has a sense of humour or the ability to use sarcasm or anything close to it.

    What we do have however are decades of examples of him blurting out something mind numbingly stupid and when called out for the stupidity attempting to cover it up by suggesting he was joking or being sarcastic.

    To quote someone else on here recently - "Donald Trump isn't playing 4D chess , he's eating the pieces so no one else can play"
    Well, he obviously has you fooled. He is a master manipulator.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3816
    amdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    notobtuse wrote: »
    You don't think he was trolling the biased media to make their collective heads explode? That's what he does... and they fall for it every time.

    Are you familiar with the Irish word eejit?

    He's a bit of an eejit. Actually no, what an awful eejit.

    I am unclear why you are over the moon that you have an eejit as a President.

    I ask myself. If Trump was a Democrat would I think he was an eejit or would I think he is great. Hmmm. Yeah definitely an almighty eejit.


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    #3817
    amdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Well, he obviously has you fooled. He is a master eejit manipulator.

    I fixed your post


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    #3818
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    amdublin wrote: »
    Are you familiar with the Irish word eejit?

    He's a bit of an eejit. Actually no, what an awful eejit.

    I am unclear why you are over the moon that you have an eejit as a President.

    I ask myself. If Trump was a Democrat would I think he was an eejit or would I think he is great. Hmmm. Yeah definitely an almighty eejit.
    Sure am. That was often my born and raised Irish mother's nickname for me. She, God rest her soul, would have loved Trump. She always admired people who go against the grain and didn't take any $hit from anyone.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3819
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    amdublin wrote: »
    I fixed your post
    No, you sullied it. ;)

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3820
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    amdublin wrote: »
    Are you familiar with the Irish word eejit?

    He's a bit of an eejit. Actually no, what an awful eejit.

    I am unclear why you are over the moon that you have an eejit as a President.

    I ask myself. If Trump was a Democrat would I think he was an eejit or would I think he is great. Hmmm. Yeah definitely an almighty eejit.

    Do you know of any other politicians who are eejits in the US of A


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    #3821
    Triangle
    Registered Users Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Triangle


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    No they got the most. The highest number of first preferences.
    Our system is odd.
    Passing votes down and around.
    Ends up in the like of Eamon Ryan getting into a position of power.
    That's for another thread though

    Sweet Jesus blueshoe, do you just go around political threads giving out about the green party?
    You got a hell of a chip on your shoulder 😂


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    #3822
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    https://twitter.com/NeverAgainActn/status/1265377215266664448

    What a humanitarian Trump is to have this system in place to keep people safe.


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    #3823
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Do you know of any other politicians who are eejits in the US of A
    They're easily identified. They all have a (D) behind their names... and sometimes an (I). :p

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3824
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    notobtuse wrote: »
    They're easily identified. They all have a (D) behind their names... and sometimes an (I). :p

    Like when trump used to have a d behind his?


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    #3825
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Like when trump used to have a d behind his?

    Still has the D behind him, it just so happens that it's millions of D's


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    #3826
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Like when trump used to have a d behind his?
    Yup. Luckily one can overcome the stigma.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3827
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,602 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Like when trump used to have a d behind his?

    Now he's just a D


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    #3828
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Still has the D behind him, it just so happens that it's millions of D's
    More like billions?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3829
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,438 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    No they got the most. The highest number of first preferences.
    Our system is odd.
    Passing votes down and around.
    Ends up in the like of Eamon Ryan getting into a position of power.
    That's for another thread though

    We've had this out before. Our system is proportional representation and as you might guess by the name, it represents minorities better .

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #3830
    amdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Sure am. That was often my born and raised Irish mother's nickname for me. She, God rest her soul, would have loved Trump. She always admired people who go against the grain and didn't take any $hit from anyone.

    Ah the innocence.

    Bless her heart

    Sure bless your heart too while we're at it


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    #3831
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Triangle wrote: »
    Sweet Jesus blueshoe, do you just go around political threads giving out about the green party?
    You got a hell of a chip on your shoulder 😂

    I'm throwing darts at a photo of Eamon right now.


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    #3832
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Yup. Luckily one can overcome the stigma.

    Not so sure. This is his 3rd go at being a Republican after a couple at being a Democrat and a couple of stops in between.

    Its almost like he doesn't give a **** about any of you and will hitch his flag to whatever serves his interests best


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    #3833
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,438 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    notobtuse wrote: »
    So if I understand correctly you're criticizing the US for not having something you yourself don't even have?

    You don't understand correctly.

    Read what I said again.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #3834
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    notobtuse wrote: »
    More like billions?

    Even America doesnt have billions of dumbasses.


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    #3835
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Who's willing to bet all these investigations that will definitely show Obama/ the clintons / every Democrat etc to be criminals all conveniently cant come out till after November? At which point they quietly disappear either way like they were just bull**** to try steer the election...............


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    #3836
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Who's willing to bet all these investigations that will definitely show Obama/ the clintons / every Democrat etc to be criminals all conveniently cant come out till after November? At which point they quietly disappear either way like they were just bull**** to try steer the election...............

    The Russian Trump investigation was a smoke screen to hide to Clinton email scandal.


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    #3837
    [Deleted User]
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    I feel bad for how Trump’s words hurt the woman’s family. But you can’t have one set of standards for one party and another for the other.

    So, was it okay with you when a US senator read into the congressional record accusations without any evidence, that an honorable and accomplished judge being confirmed to the Supreme Court was a gang-rapist? How do you think his family felt?

    Or when nearly every single major mainstream news agency advocated for physical threats directed at a high school teenager for no other ‘crime’ than that of wearing a MAGA hat? How do you think his family felt?

    How about when Joe Scarborough joked on the Imus show about having an affair with an intern and then killing her? Why aren’t you condemning that?

    It is okay for Democrats and their media handmaidens to do those things but not Trump? So spare me your faux outrage.

    That's a very good point


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    #3838
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That's a very good point

    Is it though? Trump tells us how despicable these people are and his supporters show how they do the same thing he does.

    Doesn't that make him everything he calls them?


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    #3839
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    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    No, no he wasn't.

    There is absolutely zero evidence anywhere in the entire history of Donald Trump to indicate that he has a sense of humour or the ability to use sarcasm or anything close to it.

    That's just not true.


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    #3840
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    The Russian Trump investigation was a smoke screen to hide to Clinton email scandal.

    So you agree all the bluster by Trump is no more than baseless rubbish designed to garner favour from people in the election


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    #3841
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Brian? wrote: »
    You don't understand correctly.

    Read what I said again.
    I don't care what you said. So I’m not getting this right? Mary Lou McDonald, with a popular vote of 535,595, beat the next candidate with the most votes, Micheál Martin, who had 484,320 popular votes. According to you Hillary Clinton should have become President of the US because she received more popular votes. How is Prime Minster McDonald doing? I mean, isn't how all the civilized countries do things?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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