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2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,121 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I wonder will any such motion be as successful as the democrat failed impeachment attempt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Trump didn't commit voter fraud. He corrected an error before voting.

    making a false registration is voter fraud


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    ELM327 wrote: »
    I wonder will any such motion be as successful as the democrat failed impeachment attempt?

    He was impeached though, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    making a false registration is voter fraud
    An honest mistake is not a crime... unless you are Trump or worked on his campaign, apparently.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    ELM327 wrote: »
    I wonder will any such motion be as successful as the democrat failed impeachment attempt?

    Has any president ever been successfully impeached?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    He was impeached though, no?

    yes. Donald Trump was impeached.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    An honest mistake is not a crime... unless you are Trump or worked on his campaign, apparently.

    using honest in relation to anything trump does is laughable. like pretty much everything you post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    notobtuse wrote: »
    An honest mistake is not a crime... unless you are Trump or worked on his campaign, apparently.

    Clearly not an honest mistake. a deliberate attempt to commit voter fraud. Probably thought by getting away with it he could prove mail in ballots were a problem. All he proved is how well the system catches fraudsters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Has any president ever been successfully impeached?

    Nixon, was, wasn't he? Assuming you mean removed from office, but maybe he resigned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Nixon, was, wasn't he?

    No actually. Nixon resigned prior to the House deciding on articles.

    This was necessary to get pardoned by Gerald Ford. A POTUS can't pardon someone from impeachment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Nixon, was, wasn't he? Assuming you mean removed from office, but maybe he resigned.
    nixon resigned before the house could vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Has any president ever been successfully impeached?
    william jefforson clinton and donald trump


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,121 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Overheal wrote: »
    yes. Donald Trump was impeached.


    He was impeached, correct, but the motion to remove him from office failed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ELM327 wrote: »
    He was impeached, correct, but the motion to remove him from office failed.

    As with Clinton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    nixon resigned before the house could vote.
    Yeah, isn’t that a hoot... Nixon resigned before Congress could vote to remove him for doing far less than Obama did in spying on the opposing political campaign. You’d think with Biden’s involvement in the shady campaign spying, he’d just sulk away in shame. But no. Apparently Joe has little to no values.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    ELM327 wrote: »
    He was impeached, correct, but the motion to remove him from office failed.

    so not a
    failed impeachment attempt?
    then. glad we cleared that up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Yeah, isn’t that a hoot... Nixon resigned before Congress could vote to remove him for doing far less than Obama did in spying on the opposing political campaign. You’d think with Biden’s involvement in the shady campaign spying, he’d just sulk away in shame. But no. Apparently Joe has little to no values.

    that horse is dead. you need to stop flogging it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    so not a then. glad we cleared that up

    The fake news is everywhere these days :pac:


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    notobtuse wrote: »
    An honest mistake is not a crime... unless you are Trump or worked on his campaign, apparently.

    Tell that to these people
    An honest mistake also lies at the heart of the most notorious voter fraud prosecution of the past decade. In 2016, Crystal Mason believed she was allowed to vote: She had served prison time for a felony conviction for filing false tax returns but was out on supervised release. Mason didn’t realize that, unlike many states, Texas does not restore felons’ voting rights until they’ve completed a probationary period. She cast a provisional ballot that was never even counted. Attorney General Ken Paxton—who frequently lobs false claims of voter fraud—charged her anyway. Mason was convicted and sentenced to five years in prison.


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    that horse is dead. you need to stop flogging it.

    He'll be flogging it in five years time. The travesty of the Obama administration not being charged etc. It'll be just like the lack of grounds to lock Clinton up etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Yeah, isn’t that a hoot... Nixon resigned before Congress could vote to remove him for doing far less than Obama did in spying on the opposing political campaign. You’d think with Biden’s involvement in the shady campaign spying, he’d just sulk away in shame. But no. Apparently Joe has little to no values.

    Well its seem you too have little to no values, consdiering you call yourself a Christian and claim your bible is under attack yet you defend everything about a serial adulterer and con man who doesnt know one passage from your precious bible.

    So dont preach about others if you cant practice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    ELM327 wrote: »
    He was impeached, correct, but the motion to remove him from office failed.
    Impeachment is little more than a House political process. The democrat controlled House could have impeached Trump because they somehow thought the color of his tie was offensive. Obstruction of Congress???? There is no such thing. If a president is perceived to be obstructing some congressional effort then Congress goes to the courts for a ruling. That is the way it has always been when every president did what Trump did, and worse. It is the Senate vote on impeachment and removal from office that makes it a legal matter.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,899 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    ELM327 wrote: »
    He was impeached, correct, but the motion to remove him from office failed.

    So you were wrong when you claimed it was a
    democrat failed impeachment attempt
    ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    kilns wrote: »
    Well its seem you too have little to no values, consdiering you call yourself a Christian and claim your bible is under attack yet you defend everything about a serial adulterer and con man who doesnt know one passage from your precious bible.

    So dont preach about others if you cant practice
    When did I ever claim to be a Christian?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Impeachment is little more than a House political process. The democrat controlled House could have impeached Trump because they somehow thought the color of his tie was offensive. Obstruction of Congress???? There is no such thing. If a president is perceived to be obstructing some congressional effort then Congress goes to the courts for a ruling. That is the way it has always been when every president did what Trump did, and worse. It is the Senate vote on impeachment and removal from office that makes it a legal matter.

    you're stiil bitching about what is now ancient history. you should be more worried about what happens to donnie when he is out of office. luckily for him he seems to like orange


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Impeachment is little more than a House political process. The democrat controlled House could have impeached Trump because they somehow thought the color of his tie was offensive. Obstruction of Congress???? There is no such thing. If a president is perceived to be obstructing some congressional effort then Congress goes to the courts for a ruling. That is the way it has always been when every president did what Trump did, and worse. It is the Senate vote on impeachment and removal from office that makes it a legal matter.

    18 U.S. Code § 1505.Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees


    Whoever, with intent to avoid, evade, prevent, or obstruct compliance, in whole or in part, with any civil investigative demand duly and properly made under the Antitrust Civil Process Act, willfully withholds, misrepresents, removes from any place, conceals, covers up, destroys, mutilates, alters, or by other means falsifies any documentary material, answers to written interrogatories, or oral testimony, which is the subject of such demand; or attempts to do so or solicits another to do so; or

    Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress—

    Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.

    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 770; Pub. L. 87–664, § 6(a), Sept. 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 551; Pub. L. 91–452, title IX, § 903, Oct. 15, 1970, 84 Stat. 947; Pub. L. 94–435, title I, § 105, Sept. 30, 1976, 90 Stat. 1389; Pub. L. 97–291, § 4(d), Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1253; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(K), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 108–458, title VI, § 6703(a), Dec. 17, 2004, 118 Stat. 3766.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    you're stiil bitching about what is now ancient history. you should be more worried about what happens to donnie when he is out of office. luckily for him he seems to like orange
    Injustice has no time limit.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    notobtuse wrote: »
    When did I ever claim to be a Christian?

    So you are not a Christian or Jew but are very concerned about how the bible is being attacked and religious freedoms of these people are being eroded by the "radical left"

    My mistake so. You are just a good citizen who cares about citizens rights in the constitution :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Injustice has no time limit.

    unfortunately for cadet bonespurs that is true. i wonder will he jump on a flight to moscow as quick as he can.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Injustice has no time limit.

    So I don't want to hear one off color remark from you when Trump is handcuffed next January :)


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