2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

timsey tiger

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Tell that to these people

Bloody hell, I can't see how anybody would even vote in America, never mind commit voter fraud with those sentences

Overheal

timsey tiger wrote: »

Bloody hell, I can't see how anybody would even vote in America, never mind commit voter fraud with those sentences

The vaaaaaaast majority of people, even with strong political views, are not going to risk that much for the sake of 1 errant vote.

Outlaw Pete

Overheal wrote: »

yes. Donald Trump was impeached.

Impeachment is just a political charge. Trump was acquitted of that charge.

Why some seem to celebrate that democrats managed to abuse their powers and push ahead with a political charge despite the lack of evidence for what they were alleging took place, is odd.

Especially given that it was done so deceptively and in such dishonorable ways.


https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1266055430154919943

extra gravy

notobtuse wrote: »

Injustice has no time limit.

Good, there'll be lots to investigate in Trumpland when he gets booted out.

ohnonotgmail

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Impeachment is just a political charge. Trump was acquitted of that charge.

Why some seem to celebrate that democrats managed to abuse their powers and push ahead with a political charge despite the lack of evidence for what they were alleging took place, is odd.

Especially given that it was done so deceptively and in such dishonorable ways.


https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1266055430154919943

oh dear.

Overheal

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Impeachment is just a political charge. Trump was acquitted of that charge.

Why some seem to celebrate that democrats managed to abuse their powers and push ahead with a political charge despite the lack of evidence for what they were alleging took place, is odd.

Especially given that it was done so deceptively and in such dishonorable ways.


https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1266055430154919943

Does anything you said discredit the fact that he was impeached? Because: he was impeached. So was Bill, something most Trump supporters were more than happy to flog about in the last general election.

hetuzozaho

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Impeachment is just a political charge.

And that link confirms that Donald Trump was impeached you agree?

Quin_Dub

Trump brilliant leadership has now brought Texas into play.. TEXAS!!

• In Texas, a Republican stronghold that Trump won by nine points in 2016, a Quinnipiac Poll out yesterday showed Trump in a statistical tie with Joe Biden, 44% to 43%.
• Fox News polls out yesterday showed Trump down badly in Wisconsin (Biden 49%, Trump 40%) and statistically tied in Ohio (Biden 45%, Trump 43%) — two must-wins.
• In Arizona, a 2020 swing state which Trump won by three points in 2016, a Fox News poll showed Biden with an edge (46% to 42%).

Leadership indeed..

notobtuse

kilns wrote: »

So you are not a Christian or Jew but are very concerned about how the bible is being attacked and religious freedoms of these people are being eroded by the "radical left"

My mistake so. You are just a good citizen who cares about citizens rights in the constitution :rolleyes:

Correct, I'm not a Christian or Jew... I'm agnostic.

And yes, I care about citizen's rights in the Constitution. And I find it disgusting that Joe Biden has been exploiting George Floyd’s death and the subsequent riots for his political gain. He just said “that in addition to the bible, the president might also want to open the US Constitution every once in awhile” “If he did, he’d find a thing called the First Amendment.” Perhaps with all the other things about our government Joe seemed to have forgotten, there is nothing in the First Amendment that protects rioting, looting, assault or murder.

dwayneshintzy

notobtuse, what do you think of the Hong Kong protestors? Do you have a view on them?

notobtuse

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Trump brilliant leadership has now brought Texas into play.. TEXAS!!



Leadership indeed..

All those dang Californians escaping democrat oppression into Texas and then demanding Texas institute what they were running away from... I warned about this years ago.

Quin_Dub

notobtuse wrote: »

All those dang Californians escaping democrat oppression into Texas and then demanding Texas institute what they were running away from... I warned about this years ago.

OK , so that bizarre canard sort of covers Texas - what about all the other states that he won in 2016 where is is underwater and sinking further?

Not sure many Californians are moving to Wisconsin and Ohio?

ELM327

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So you were wrong when you claimed it was a

?

No.
The motion did not pass in both houses so was... a FAILED ATTEMPT.


Do keep up.

ohnonotgmail

ELM327 wrote: »

No.
The motion did not pass in both houses so was... a FAILED ATTEMPT.


Do keep up.

it passed in the house therefore he was impeached. you claiming otherwise shows you dont understand the process

Timberrrrrrrr

ELM327 wrote: »

No.
The motion did not pass in both houses so was... a FAILED ATTEMPT.


Do keep up.

He

Was

Impeached!

He may not have been removed from office but there is no denying that it was a successful impeachment.

Do keep up

Carfacemandog

ELM327 wrote: »

I wonder will any such motion be as successful as the democrat failed impeachment attempt?

I'm curious what your thoughts are on Republican senators that voted to acquit Trump openly admitting that he had broken the law and committed an impeachable offense?

Are you of the opinion that someone who breaks the law should be held accountable, or do you think the law should simply not apply to some?

Outlaw Pete

Overheal wrote: »

Does anything you said discredit the fact that he was impeached? Because: he was impeached.

Like I said: highlighting impeachment as if it means the politician in question has done something wrong as a result of that, is odd. He was politically charged in a scurrilous manner and acquitted of both charges. It's meaningless. Highlighting that it happened just throws the democrats wrong doing back into the spotlight, nothing more. I'm not sure why you all think charges being brought, which someone was acquitted of, is any kind of gotcha, it's really not.

So was Bill, something most Trump supporters were more than happy to flog about in the last general election.

Well, if those people you reference just mentioned that Bill was impeached, and left it there, as if that mere fact alone meant he must have done something wrong, then they too were doing something quite odd and so why mimic them.

notobtuse

Quin_Dub wrote: »

OK , so that bizarre canard sort of covers Texas - what about all the other states that he won in 2016 where is is underwater and sinking further?

Not sure many Californians are moving to Wisconsin and Ohio?

Wisconsin and Ohio have been battleground states. It is sometimes a crapshoot which way they’ll go in a presidential election. But my state of Pennsylvania (who went for Trump in 2016) is an interesting one by the results of the primary we just had. Democrats are claiming they will take the state because of the mass support behind native son Joe Biden. The results are now in from the primary (except for some of the mail in voting) and Bernie Sanders got 18.9% of democrat votes and Tulsi Gabbard got 3.6% of the votes, and both of them haven’t even been in the race for some time. And before anyone asks... in PA only democrats can vote in the democrat primary.

PropJoe10

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Like I said: highlighting impeachment as if it means the politician in question has done something wrong as a result of that, is odd. He was politically charged in a scurrilous manner and acquitted of both charges. It's meaningless. Highlighting that it happened just throws the democrats wrong doing back into the spotlight, nothing more. I'm not sure why you all think charges being brought, which someone was acquitted of, is any kind of gotcha, it's really not.



Well, if those people you reference just mentioned that Bill was impeached, and left it there, as if that mere fact alone meant he must have done something wrong, then they too were doing something quite odd and so why mimic them.

I remember you from the other thread, and it's fair to say that you're one of the worst purveyors of Trump-related nonsense that I think I've ever come across. It's like you are living in some sort of parallel universe, or else, you've gone so far down the road of Trump loyalism that you're simply unable to face the fact that he's done anything wrong. Quite remarkable.

kilns

notobtuse wrote: »

Correct, I'm not a Christian or Jew... I'm agnostic.

And yes, I care about citizen's rights in the Constitution. And I find it disgusting that Joe Biden has been exploiting George Floyd’s death and the subsequent riots for his political gain. He just said “that in addition to the bible, the president might also want to open the US Constitution every once in awhile” “If he did, he’d find a thing called the First Amendment.” Perhaps with all the other things about our government Joe seemed to have forgotten, there is nothing in the First Amendment that protects rioting, looting, assault or murder.

So were you concerned about the peaceful protesters being tear gassed and shot at with rubber bullets outside the White House employing their constitutional right ? Or was that the type of leadership you like from Trump

DrPhilG

Calling Trump "Cadet Bonespurs", arguing about the definition of impeachment, one side denying that he was impeached when he clearly was, the other side claiming that impeachment was remotely relevant given that it was a partisan process to impeach and was flattened in the senate.

How much more childish can this thread get?

ohnonotgmail

DrPhilG wrote: »

Calling Trump "Cadet Bonespurs", arguing about the definition of impeachment, one side denying that he was impeached when he clearly was, the other side claiming that impeachment was remotely relevant given that it was a partisan process to impeach and was flattened in the senate.

How much more childish can this thread get?

i'm sure you can manage to do it.

notobtuse

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

notobtuse, what do you think of the Hong Kong protestors? Do you have a view on them?

I am not as in tune with all that is going on in Hong Kong as I should be. I sympathize with Hong Kong and their goals of greater democrat reform. China went back on their promise of autonomy for Hong Kong. I disagree on some of the police actions there, and also some of the actions of the protestors, but I will always abhor any violence that targets innocent people and businesses. I have to commend the UK for providing Hong Kong residents a pathway to British citizenship. I wish the US would do the same, with guidelines.

Overheal

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Trump brilliant leadership has now brought Texas into play.. TEXAS!!



Leadership indeed..

And RCP had him beating Hillary by 11-12 points.

Wow.

DrPhilG

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i'm sure you can manage to do it.

Any particular reason to attack me?

ohnonotgmail

DrPhilG wrote: »

Any particular reason to attack me?

your "im really a neutral trying to see both sides" schtick is just tiresome.

notobtuse

Here’s something not being discussed but will most certainly become a issue in the election... Guns. Right now, with all the riots and mayhem by violent “protesting” groups, guns sales are going through the roof by law-abiding citizens. People want to protect themselves, their families, and their property. It’s no secret democrats and liberals are the gun grabbing group. But I think the riots have showed the imbecility of the democrat/liberal argument. That argument has been against people getting guns for self-defense because those matters belong in the hands of the police. And today these same people are demonizing the police in force 24/7. So people now can't trust the police to help them? Result... normal level-headed people are getting guns and it will factor in their votes come November.

notobtuse

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

your "im really a neutral trying to see both sides" schtick is just tiresome.

We should come here to praise those willing to consider both sides of the argument, not come here to bury them.

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

Here’s something not being discussed but will most certainly become a issue in the election... Guns. Right now, with all the riots and mayhem by violent “protesting” groups, guns sales are going through the roof by law-abiding citizens. People want to protect themselves, their families, and their property. It’s no secret democrats and liberals are the gun grabbing group. But I think the riots have showed the imbecility of the democrat/liberal argument. That argument has been against people getting guns for self-defense because those matters belong in the hands of the police. And today these same people are demonizing the police in force 24/7. So people now can't trust the police to help them? Result... normal level-headed people are getting guns and it will factor in their votes come November.

With liberals arming in record numbers, how long before Republicans come for our guns??

Eric Cartman

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Trump brilliant leadership has now brought Texas into play.. TEXAS!!



Leadership indeed..

Californian tech workers mas exodus to texas from california in search of cheaper real estate has brought texas into play. Its a well documented phenomenon thats been going on for 5 years now that all of cali (except the really grim bits) have priced out these people.