2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

So do you think some 20 million hunters will be flocking to Alaska to cover 20 million acres of wilderness in the middle of nowhere, and with basically no way to get there, just to crawl into small holes to kill wolves in their dens? If you do I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Who said 20 million or gave any number?

Need to get more subtle when you strawman

extra gravy

notobtuse wrote: »

Common sense is an excuse?

It's not common sense, it's just your usual deflection. How many hunters go there or not isn't the point. The law allows whoever does go there to use inhumane practices to kill vulnerable animals. Yet again, you defend the indefensible.

notobtuse

frag420 wrote: »

So a bit of competition and trump folded, not the sign of a good businessman in anyones book I wohjlx think.

A shareholder who invested $10,000 in Mr. Trump’s empire when the casino company went public in 1995 would now have about $636.That performance came at a time when the casino industry was blossoming across America, as more states accepted more gambling as a way to raise revenues.

I counted five other casino companies that went public in the mid-1990s. All made money for investors in the initial offering. The champion was Penn National Gaming, which will take your bets in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Mississippi, Louisiana and in Ontario. It went public in 1994, and a $10,000 investment would now be worth about $724,000.

Over all, an index of casino stocks is up 268 percent since June 1995. Trump investors lost 93 percent.

Why did they do so badly? Mr. Trump has an explanation. “The company has always been a relatively high-debt company,” he told me, and when it needed money the bond markets were not always friendly. Bit in Italics taken from the NYT, all easily verifiable!

So based on the above Trump had a headstart on the new competition as he was already running casinos (Into the ground) yet still got beaten by the newcomers, pathetic really!


As for your second point. Trump doesn't strike me as the type to go for small inconsequential ventures. He spent $300m on the football team, not exactly small is it?

He raised $365M for his airline and within a year it had lost $120m, not exactly a small inconsequential venture is it?

Shall I go on...

Didn’t Trump sell his shares in the 17 plane airline while it was still operational? Didn’t the entire USFL football league go bust? Didn’t the majority of casinos in Atlantic City file for bankruptcy around the same time?

kilns

notobtuse wrote: »

You get one freebee, others will cost you. I've explained it many times before in this thread. No need for me to do it again. Bottom line when other states started allowing casinos, it tanked just about every casino in Atlantic City. When casinos opened up in Pennsylvania I no longer went to Atlantic City, just a many millions of others in PA, NY, CT, NH, MD, DE, MD, VA and elsewhere. Look it up if you need more detail. Filing for bankruptcy on behalf of the casino was the smart business move. As for the others, mostly small inconsequential ventures.

Trumps net value is worthless as he is up to his eyes in debt. Prove otherwise

eire4

extra gravy wrote: »

It would be commendable if he actually gave a shít about the Uighurs but we know he doesn't and what the real purpose of this is. He's ignoring what's going on in his own backyard while signing legislation relating to another country. "America First" indeed.

You could throw ion his love affair with the Saudi Arabian government which is with out doubt once of the worst in the world when it comes to human rights.

notobtuse

So Rod Rosenstein just testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee. This IS turning out to be the biggest political scandal in American history. No wonder democrats want to end it all yesterday.

Rosenstein testified...

Knowing what he knows now, Rosenstein says would not have signed the FISA application to spy on Carter Page

Rosenstein cannot explain the basis for Mueller’s investigation of Trump-Russia collusion since, by the time Mueller was appointed in summer 2017, the FBI had already cleared the key people named as possible collaborators

Rosenstein set out very broad terms for the Mueller investigation. His ‘scope memos’ were widened, not narrowed, after no Trump-Russian collaboration was found

Although Rosenstein was responsible for supervising the Special Counsel, he testified that he exercised little hands-on oversight. He made no effort to rein in excesses

Rosenstein flatly denies he tried to remove President Trump, using the 25th Amendment, or wear a wire into the White House to record his conversations with the President

Though Rosenstein acknowledges serious mistakes, he blames them on the FBI’s ‘lack of candor’. His testimony portends a serious clash between DoJ and FBI officials. This blame game will soon include the CIA, State Department, and Obama White House

https://spectator.us/rod-rosenstein-devastating-admissions/

Mr. Karate

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1270448097378918401?s=19

Expect "fake news/lamestream media/enemy of the people" tweet shortly.

Wow. NY Times stood on a street corner of NYC and shockingly more people supported Biden. If they really want to impress me go to a "Flyover state" and then get back to me.

BTW. All these pollsters were all saying Hilary had this locked down and we all know how that turned out.

4068ac1elhodqr

kilns wrote: »

Trumps net value is worthless as he is up to his eyes in debt.

Think most countries are after COVID.


Trump does have a very high risk trump card up his sleeve, this one however is a deal breaker, not maker: Send a few boats to the China Sea, then call a default on them, perhaps mashup a new NAFTA (amero) currency shortly after, bingo/checkmate!

mcmoustache

notobtuse wrote: »

I believe Trump said 'he could' be Antifa. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. He seemed to act like some old Antifa guy would who'd have some difficulty breathing through a black hood because of his age. Seriously though, I'd think Antifa would rather beat him up before they'd allow him to join their ranks.

But why would he say that "he could be"?


Was he trying to inform people, was he trying to deceive or does he genuinely just believe whatever he reads from idiots on twitter?


I'm trying to understand the motivation here and you seem like someone who might be able to shed some light on this.

kilns

Dangelo Wooden Test wrote: »

Think most countries are after COVID.


Trump does have a very high risk trump card up his sleeve, this one however is a deal breaker, not maker: Send a few boats to the China Sea, then call a default on them, perhaps mashup a new NAFTA (amero) currency shortly after, bingo/checkmate!

Ha ha that’s what he would do in business because he is reckless and to be honest not so smart.

Who would buy all the US debt in the future for a start? They will never admit it but the US needs China more than China needs the US

Hurrache

Mr. Karate wrote: »

BTW. All these pollsters were all saying Hilary had this locked down and we all know how that turned out.

Won the popular vote?

4068ac1elhodqr

kilns wrote: »

Ha ha that’s what he would do in business because he is reckless and to be honest not so smart.
Who would buy all the US debt in the future for a start? They will never admit it but the US needs China more than China needs the US

Default means it 'goes' (vanishes) a refusal to honour, return of nil.

The other issue realtes to US bankrupcy laws, and much like their voting system, neither party ever moved to change or alter it. And so it is what it is, still valid and legal regardless.


The long game is that China/Asia will own the West (and Africa) in a matter of decades (China, 2060 x2 GDP) - of either the US, or the new expanded USofEurope. With India a close 2nd not far behind.

A chess player's mind might choose (now), to deliver a very quick and very severe sly kick to the groin, rather than be outplayed, outskilled and outnumbered as time naturally progresses and the table becomes one-sided.

dark crystal

Mr. Karate wrote: »

BTW. All these pollsters were all saying Hilary had this locked down and we all know how that turned out.

Nowhere near the same complacency this time round.

Trump's not just a maverick novelty any more. He's been tested and found wanting.

He will be a one term president.

kilns

Dangelo Wooden Test wrote: »

Default means it 'goes' (vanishes) a refusal to honour, return of nil.

The other issue realtes to US bankrupcy laws, and much like their voting system, neither party ever moved to change or alter it. And so it is what it is, still valid and legal regardless.


The long game is that China/Asia will own the West (and Africa) in a matter of decades (China, 2060 x2 GDP) - of either the US, or the new expanded USofEurope. With India a close 2nd not far behind.

A chess player's mind might choose (now), to deliver a very quick and very severe sly kick to the groin, rather than be outplayed, outskilled and outnumbered as time naturally progresses and the table becomes one-sided.

So the US default on his debts (very Trump like) who would buy their debt again? It’s why you see countries struggle and sometimes never recover.

Trump is such an idiot I am sure he has considered it

ChikiChiki

Trumps tweet re the 75 year old is the craziest one to date.

The paranoia in the tweet indicates he is clearly operating as POTUS without his full set of faculties.

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

Didn’t Trump sell his shares in the 17 plane airline while it was still operational? Didn’t the entire USFL football league go bust? Didn’t the majority of casinos in Atlantic City file for bankruptcy around the same time?

So as long as Trump sells out his stock in the US it will be okay when his bubble collapses on everyone else

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

So Rod Rosenstein just testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee. This IS turning out to be the biggest political scandal in American history. No wonder democrats want to end it all yesterday.

Rosenstein testified...



https://spectator.us/rod-rosenstein-devastating-admissions/

Guys notice how when he’s called tf out for defending the indefensible re: hunting laws, his very next post is “Omg happening now look over here” - and it’s just News from last week, that’s already been mentioned on this thread, by him even.

Gas.

Plasandrunt

Just found out Biden did a speech via video link at the funeral today. Considering his links to segregation in the past I'm surprised it hasn't been picked up on a little more.

Overheal

Plasandrunt wrote: »

Just found out Biden did a speech via video link at the funeral today. Considering his links to segregation in the past I'm surprised it hasn't been picked up on a little more.

As opposed to taking a flight out there, and then concern-trolled by the right for carbon emissions, wasted expense, and distraction about social distancing? Damned if you do damned if you don’t. At least he spoke; was Trump even invited?

Plasandrunt

I just don't know why someone who has advocated segregation in the past would be invited to speak at Floyd's funeral is all.

Overheal

Plasandrunt wrote: »

I just don't know why someone who has advocated segregation in the past would be invited to speak at Floyd's funeral is all.

Decades ago. And to be fair several groups wanted to keep the races separate, such as the Elijah Muhammad’s Nation of Islam, who Malcom X advocated for before recanting and being assassinated by them, and is now led by Louis Farrakhan. I say that to mean someones segregation viewpoint in the 1970s isn’t going to make them an automatic pariah in the black community. Not only that but the bus gate is pretty tame as far as pro-segregation goes; Biden didn’t want to force the decision through the department of education nationwide, it was a middling states rights compromise position.

Quin_Dub

notobtuse wrote: »

So Rod Rosenstein just testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee. This IS turning out to be the biggest political scandal in American history. No wonder democrats want to end it all yesterday.

Rosenstein testified...



https://spectator.us/rod-rosenstein-devastating-admissions/

And in ACTUAL News..

Federal Judge, After Reading the Unredacted Mueller Report, Orders DOJ to Explain Itself at Hearing

A federal judge who previously said that Attorney General William Barr “distorted” the findings of the redacted Mueller Report confirmed on Monday that he has finally read the unredacted version. U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton then ordered the Department of Justice to answer his questions “regarding certain redactions of the Mueller Report” at an ex parte (one party only) hearing next month.

The much-anticipated development in the lawsuit filed by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), BuzzFeed and BuzzFeed News reporter Jason Leopold comes months after the judge expressed his skepticism about the DOJ’s decision-making in no uncertain terms. The pandemic, as Judge Walton noted, more than threw a wrench in the matter and continues to do so. But Judge Walton, having reviewed the full Mueller Report in his chambers, made clear that he has some questions that the DOJ cannot answer remotely:

eagle eye

frag420 wrote:

Welcome back, care to discuss Trumps business success's or will you ignore this too...

frag420 wrote:

Eh you didn't...so let me ask you again as you said Trump was a successful businessman or has killer business instinct, the below says he is not...whats your proof?

Why are we discussing Trump's performance as a businessman? Surely the last four years is what he will be judged on?

extra gravy wrote:

It's not common sense, it's just your usual deflection. How many hunters go there or not isn't the point. The law allows whoever does go there to use inhumane practices to kill vulnerable animals. Yet again, you defend the indefensible.

Does this happen anywhere else in the world? How many countries allow this?

pjohnson

kilns wrote: »

So the US default on his debts (very Trump like) who would buy their debt again? It’s why you see countries struggle and sometimes never recover.

Trump is such an idiot I am sure he has considered it

I think michael scott was more accomplished at this stage.

Overheal

We’ve seen this scenario in Georgia every election for several years now

https://twitter.com/rbreich/status/1270440932882518016?s=21

There could very well be riots if this is the situation in November.

Ardillaun

Dangelo Wooden Test wrote: »

Sure would rather see the Newfies batter those fluffy white seals to bits after their seasonal hunt, that that lass bawling it all out again, yuk.

Any Newfoundlanders doing that after 1987 would be breaking the law.

Ardillaun

notobtuse wrote: »

I believe Trump said 'he could' be Antifa.)

Trump has spent a lifetime at this kind of thing. A recent example: his disgraceful accusation that Joe Scarborough murdered Lori Klausutis (who wasn’t murdered by anybody) was dressed up as asking a question.

duploelabs

Overheal wrote: »

Guys notice how when he’s called tf out for defending the indefensible re: hunting laws, his very next post is “Omg happening now look over here” - and it’s just News from last week, that’s already been mentioned on this thread, by him even.

Gas.

You're only noticing that now? The Bruce Springsteend named tune does that too

DrPhilG

Plasandrunt wrote: »

I just don't know why someone who has advocated segregation in the past would be invited to speak at Floyd's funeral is all.

Overheal wrote: »

Decades ago. I say that to mean someones segregation viewpoint in the 1970s isn’t going to make them an automatic pariah in the black community.

And yet when I pointed out that evangelicals today are not racists, I was told that they must be, because some of them were racists 6 decades ago.

I smell a double standard in the air...

In relation to the Coronavirus, deaths per capita are still increasing pretty rapidly. The US will enter the top ten affected countries during the weekend or early next week.