2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

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Kidchameleon wrote: »

Dont be surprised if Biden doesn't debate Trump - either because he is not the nominee or he uses some bs excuse to get out of it. "I'll debate you only if you release your tax returns" etc etc. Trump would win every debate with him easily.

do you not get tired of repeating yourself?

ohnonotgmail

extra gravy wrote: »

If he didn't inherit his Daddy's money, do you think he would have had the intelligence to succeed (using that term loosely) in business or been President? He'd be a dodgy used car salesman more like.

i read a comparison recently between him and Don King. It said that if they were swapped at birth Trump would be a corrupt boxing promoter and King would be a corrupt president

ohnonotgmail

Eod100 wrote: »

News that won't surprise anyone. Trump has pardoned Roger Stone apparently https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/1281737047150125056

that is 35 pardons for trump in his term. 31 of them are people connected to him via criminality.

PropJoe10

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Even the "great" Obama ALWAYS had a teleprompter.

At least Obama was able to read his teleprompter properly.

Overheal

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Well that's not exactly true is it? He said he would debate the democrats nominee & as far as I remember, he debated Hillary a number of times. Why waste time debating Sanders? Sanders had nothing to do with the presidential race at that stage.

No, it’s exactly true:

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36401179

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ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that is 35 pardons for trump in his term. 31 of them are people connected to him via criminality.

I wonder will Biden commit to end this ridiculous practice of pardoning criminals.

Muahahaha

Trump: "MAGA"

Dr. Anthony Fauci: "I don’t think you can say we’re doing Great. I mean, we’re just not"

Wanderer78

Muahahaha wrote: »

Trump: "MAGA"

Dr. Anthony Fauci: "I don’t think you can say we’re doing Great. I mean, we’re just not"

trump is doing great, hes the greatest in fact, everybody else is failing though

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hotmail.com wrote: »

I wonder will Biden commit to end this ridiculous practice of pardoning criminals.

Pardoning isn't the worst thing imho but doing so for personal interest as Trump is doing should be off limits.

Muahahaha

I wonder will Stone be recruited straight into the Trump campaign now or moreso act in the background running his dirty tricks. Be interesting to know if the FBI are tapping his phone & computer in the expectation of more collusion with Russia.

Wanderer78

Muahahaha wrote: »

I wonder will Stone be recruited straight into the Trump campaign now or moreso act in the background running his dirty tricks. Be interesting to know if the FBI are tapping his phone & computer in the expectation of more collusion with Russia.

id say tapping is very common with high level politicians anyway, id say its all recorded

Overheal

https://twitter.com/samster199/status/1280662498388008960?s=21

Trump campaigns latest attack ad is beyond repugnant and reeks of desperation. Nevermind that Bidens platform has been categorically against defunding of police. But this is fearmongering like we never even saw even under the Bush Administration. ‘Joe is going to get you raped!’

Nevermind the over the top imagery of Trumps top half of his face fading over a bunch of flames the same way you’d see the villain portrayed in a movie poster. He approved this? “Oh yes, people will vote for me imitating Satan?”

edit: oh, it is actually Biden - but as fast as it flashes in the ad you'd have to look close to discern it



Very uh, very weird subject to try and gaslight when you have a pending rape case in front of you that you are fighting tooth and nail against cooperate with. This will come back to haunt him now of course, given that Trumps legal defense in the Trump v Carrol court battle has to date relied on asserting *absolute* immunity, which SCOTUS skewered this week in Trump v Vance.

ohnonotgmail

hotmail.com wrote: »

I wonder will Biden commit to end this ridiculous practice of pardoning criminals.

i'm sure he will end the ridiculous practice of pardoning people who can give evidence against the president

Kidchameleon

timsey tiger wrote: »

I guess you have forgot the last election cycle, when Trump was debating Clinton and success for him was gauged by not f**king too much or losing too badly.

Now he is up against his record of failures in office and a candidate that is actually likable.

No way on earth he is coming out of the debates winning.

He wiped the floor with Hillary in fairness

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ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i'm sure he will end the ridiculous practice of pardoning people who can give evidence against the president

So he's not going to end the practice I take it?

Ending the practice would prevent future presidents doing this sort of stuff.

I presume not a peep out of the opposition in America about the principle of the practice. Joke as always for Americans.

Kidchameleon

extra gravy wrote: »

If he didn't inherit his Daddy's money, do you think he would have had the intelligence to succeed (using that term loosely) in business or been President? He'd be a dodgy used car salesman more like.

AFAIK, he inherited 1 million dollars. Most people who inherit a sum like that end up p1ssing it up against the wall. Trump turned it into several billion dollars. That was no accident. I would imagine inheriting his fathers genes and business acumen was more important than any amount of cash he might have received.

Kidchameleon

timsey tiger wrote: »

I propose a wager.

If Trump wins I will come on here and declare him to be a stable genius, if he loses you come on here and declare him as thick as two short planks.

I'll take you up on that. See you the the 4th of November.

Carfacemandog

Kidchameleon wrote: »

He wiped the floor with Hillary in fairness

Did you watch those debates, and if so what areas do you particularly find he did so?

I remember seeing a 70 year old man lumbering creepily around stage and giving us the classic "no puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet!" ramble, as well as sniffling like he had just done another bag with Epstein during one of them in particular. But I don't remember where he "wiped the floor" with anyone.

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

AFAIK, he inherited 1 million dollars. Most people who inherit a sum like that end up p1ssing it up against the wall. Trump turned it into several billion dollars. That was no accident. I would imagine inheriting his fathers genes and business acumen was more important than any amount of cash he might have received.

So he claims, the truth is no one knows how much he is worth because he refuses to release his tax details, i wonder why that is?

weisses

Kidchameleon wrote: »

AFAIK, he inherited 1 million dollars. Most people who inherit a sum like that end up p1ssing it up against the wall. Trump turned it into several billion dollars. That was no accident. I would imagine inheriting his fathers genes and business acumen was more important than any amount of cash he might have received.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/self-made-trump-was-given-413m-in-today-s-money-by-father-1.3650068

:rolleyes:

Kidchameleon

PropJoe10 wrote: »

At least Obama was able to read his teleprompter properly.

He was also well able to risk nuclear war with North Korea. How has president Trump done with North Korea?

Professor Moriarty

Kidchameleon wrote: »

He was also well able to risk nuclear war with North Korea. How has president Trump done with North Korea?

Terrible. He was played like a fish.

Kidchameleon

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So he claims, the truth is no one knows how much he is worth because he refuses to release his tax details, i wonder why that is?

If someone has a portfolio like Donal Trump, I'm not sure there's any need to see their tax returns to gauge that they are worth several billion. Ever been to Trump tower? What about Doonbeg golf course?

Kidchameleon

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Terrible. He was played like a fish.

Na, the electorate disagree with you.

extra gravy

Kidchameleon wrote: »

If someone has a portfolio like Donal Trump, I'm not sure there's any need to see their tax returns to gauge that they are worth several billion. Ever been to Trump tower? What about Doonbeg golf course?

How much debt is he in?

Professor Moriarty

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Na, the electorate disagree with you.

Wtf? What has that got to do with US-North Korean relations?

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

If someone has a portfolio like Donal Trump, I'm not sure there's any need to see their tax returns to gauge that they are worth several billion. Ever been to Trump tower? What about Doonbeg golf course?

Yes and yes

Trump tower is an eyesore, about 80% is coloured gold and it just oozes tackiness.

Doonbeg is a mediocre course, the 13th is a tricky bugger to play but I've been on much better courses.

Why do you think Trump continues to fight to keep his taxes private? What does he have to hide?

Carfacemandog

Kidchameleon wrote: »

AFAIK, he inherited 1 million dollars. Most people who inherit a sum like that end up p1ssing it up against the wall. Trump turned it into several billion dollars. That was no accident. I would imagine inheriting his fathers genes and business acumen was more important than any amount of cash he might have received.

$1mn vs $400mn+ and the gigantic family business worth hundreds of millions more, sure what's the difference? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html?mtrref=t.co&auth=login-email&mtrref=qz-com.cdn.ampproject.org&gwh=EC8D408362E51F6C9C58DCEEEE108DAC&gwt=pay&assetType=REGIWALL

Most estimates have him at 3-4 times ricer if he had just put the money he had just inherited into index stock funds (and even that's assuming his wealth claims aren't 'bigly' exaggerated), which is a pretty good indicator of how badly he has done with much of his inheritance from daddy. There's a reason he has gone bankrupt so many times and that US banks haven't been willing to touch him with a barge pole for years.

Carfacemandog

Kidchameleon wrote: »

How has president Trump done with North Korea?

Risked nuclear war. Repeatedly.

Kidchameleon

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Risked nuclear war. Repeatedly.

Well now, this is just head in the sand territory here. Trump is the first president to set foot in North Korea whom have really quietened down since 2016 whereas all throughout Obama's administration Kim was flexing his muscles big time