2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

Lolle06

one world order wrote: »

For decades the church and Christian values have been under attack. People no longer believe in Jesus Christ and you can see so many people in society dead in their spirit. Just going through the motions and not having a love for life. Trump is right in my opinion to stick to his guns, we need to put God first again in life. Without God’s protection, our defence system to the devil is weakened.

And in what way does Trump live „Christian values“ in your eyes?

I mean, he lies, he cheats, he is petty, lazy, slanderous, untruthful, lusts after married women, he is full of selfimportance, modesty is completely alien to him, he calls himself „the chosen one“ and pretends he was chosen by „God“... you basically can go through all the 12 commandements and Trump and his cronies would fail them all!
And you seriously want to tell us, he is on the side of „God“?
But perhaps you are talking about the „God Mammon“? Because, that would make more sense when it comes to Trump!

one world order

housetypeb wrote: »

Universal traits then, but somehow they belong to christians?

That wasn't the question asked. They are not owned by Christians.

Carfacemandog

one world order wrote: »

Christianity says we are all brothers and sisters in Christ. If a person is living there life in accordance with Christ then they should not be racist.

Which presents a problem when you consider the entire religious right movement in the US was based on racism and desegregation of schools.

The same religious right that is Trumps single most loyal demographic, which is why it really isn't a surprise how they are so excited about putting a rapist, a codefendant for child rape, a man who lists after his own daughter, a man who defines gluttony, greed, and pride, a man renowned for his sloth and laziness and a man whose sense of envy and wrath have been legendary for decades... to be their leader, for them to idolise.

Because the American religious right is a group built on racism, first and foremost by a long way. The religion stuff taught in the Bible itself really isn't all that important to them.

one world order

extra gravy wrote: »

How many of those values does Trump have?

About half, but we need a fighter at this present time and not some weak leader that submits to the dishonest media. Be bold in preaching worship of God instead of government and that is what he is doing.

Igotadose

one world order wrote: »

About half, but we need a fighter at this present time and not some weak leader that submits to the dishonest media. Be bold in preaching worship of God instead of government and that is what he is doing.

Nonsense. Try Zero.

Weak? The guys a pushover for his Russian master (talk about non-Christian!)

And, hate to disappoint you, but there's that pesky 1st amendment thing in the US that prevent preaching by public officials in their jobs. If you want theocracy, move to Iran.

housetypeb

one world order wrote: »

...They are not owned by Christians.

I figured that out, they're just handy to claim as virtues of your religion.
Even though,as you agree, they are universal traits shared by most people,some of whom don't believe in any gods.

Carfacemandog

one world order wrote: »

About half, but we need a fighter at this present time and not some weak leader that submits to the dishonest media. Be bold in preaching worship of God instead of government and that is what he is doing.

There it is... About half, but half that you won't or can't even specify. And the others are fine, including gassing the clergy so you can hold a Bible upside down, because he says nasty things about people you find threatening.

Cody montana

one world order wrote: »

About half, but we need a fighter at this present time and not some weak leader that submits to the dishonest media. Be bold in preaching worship of God instead of government and that is what he is doing.

A fighter?
Over 135 THOUSAND dead due to his incompetent, deflecting and lies.

one world order

Lolle06 wrote: »

And in what way does Trump live „Christian values“ in your eyes?

I mean, he lies, he cheats, he is petty, lazy, slanderous, untruthful, lusts after married women, he is full of selfimportance, modesty is completely alien to him, he calls himself „the chosen one“ and pretends he was chosen by „God“... you basically can go through all the 12 commandements and Trump and his cronies would fail them all!
And you seriously want to tell us, he is on the side of „God“?
But perhaps you are talking about the „God Mammon“? Because, that would make more sense when it comes to Trump!

Trump is imperfect and a sinner like the rest of us. He has a lot of traits that I don’t like. But he gives equal opportunity based on his record and he has a desire to make America better. There are dark clouds gathering over America right now it’s on a knife edge. The stock markets are also ripe for a collapse. I like his goal of returning America to its original values but it looks now, that is outside his control.

extra gravy

one world order wrote: »

About half, but we need a fighter at this present time and not some weak leader that submits to the dishonest media. Be bold in preaching worship of God instead of government and that is what he is doing.

Religion has no place in politics, maybe you should stick to the Christianity forum.

one world order

housetypeb wrote: »

I figured that out, they're just handy to claim as virtues of your religion.
Even though,as you agree, they are universal traits shared by most people,some of whom don't believe in any gods.

We all are sinners including Christians. A Christian isn’t without sin. We are separated from God because of our sinful nature and like a judge God must punish sin. However God loved his people that he gave us Jesus Christ who died on a cross and took the punishment for our sin. When we accept Jesus as our saviour our sins are forgiven.

Igotadose

one world order wrote: »

Trump is imperfect and a sinner like the rest of us.

Well, a bit of backpeddling here. Speak for yourself regarding 'the rest of us.'

He has a lot of traits that I don’t like. But he gives equal opportunity based on his record and he has a desire to make America better.

Uhh, really? Dig into Trump's 'equal opportunity' and ask 'what about the people he hounds out of government because they disagree with him.' Is that equal opportunity? Opportunity for sycophants.

There are dark clouds gathering over America right now it’s on a knife edge. The stock markets are also ripe for a collapse. I like his goal of returning America to its original values but it looks now, that is outside his control.

Umm... yinno America was in pretty good shape economically when Trump took over. Wasn't in any big wars. Economy on the upswing after recovering from the GWB era catastrophes. Then came the #IMPOTUS and here come the dark clouds. If you think America's on a knife edge, look no further than the WH for the accelerant being showered on that fire.

And, exactly what would those "original values" be? How original? 1776? 1876? 1950?

baaba maal

one world order wrote: »

About half, but we need a fighter at this present time and not some weak leader that submits to the dishonest media. Be bold in preaching worship of God instead of government and that is what he is doing.

So his Bible/trip to the church stunt (involving actual Christian pastors being assaulted by militarised police so he could hold up a book that he can't quote from, upside down for the same media) is part of this strong Christian leadership that he displays?

Will you just admit he is a loathsome creature who happens to have flagged the right issues for people such as yourself? You cannot possibly believe that he is sincere in any of this.

Thargor

I think certain people claimed these emails were fake news last time:

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-supporters-protest-gross-campaign-fundraising-emails-like-mob-collections/

ohnonotgmail

Thargor wrote: »

I think certain people claimed these emails were fake news last time:

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-supporters-protest-gross-campaign-fundraising-emails-like-mob-collections/

yeah i posted them originally and got a wall of FAKE NEWS followed by "well all the candidates do the same" when i showed they were real. They are very on-brand for trump.

threeball

Lolle06 wrote: »

And in what way does Trump live „Christian values“ in your eyes?

I mean, he lies, he cheats, he is petty, lazy, slanderous, untruthful, lusts after married women, he is full of selfimportance, modesty is completely alien to him, he calls himself „the chosen one“ and pretends he was chosen by „God“... you basically can go through all the 12 commandements and Trump and his cronies would fail them all!
And you seriously want to tell us, he is on the side of „God“?
But perhaps you are talking about the „God Mammon“? Because, that would make more sense when it comes to Trump!

I laid out the 10 commandments for this plike last week and laid out how trump fared. He ignored the post. Like the other gombeen he just trolls and trolls, one day he showed up and was all religious and its been that line every day since. It just shows he believes nothing about what he says no more than the other troll who just takes the controversial stance in every single thread he visits.

KiKi III

As long as there are no major gaffes between now and the Veep announcement, there’s a lot of momentum with Biden.

Carfacemandog

threeball wrote: »

I laid out the 10 commandments for this plike last week and laid out how trump fared. He ignored the post. Like the other gombeen he just trolls and trolls, one day he showed up and was all religious and its been that line every day since. It just shows he believes nothing about what he says no more than the other troll who just takes the controversial stance in every single thread he visits.

I can't remember who it was that claimed to be a woman in one thread and a man in another, but I do remember not being even remotely surprised as in one of those threads they were taking about how great Trump is.

gmisk

one world order wrote: »

Service, thankfulness, compassion, endurance, creativity, justice, peace, wisdom, hope, humility, and faith.

How many of those do you think Trump embodies?

ohnonotgmail

gmisk wrote: »

How many of those do you think Trump embodies?

about half apparently. of course they didnt say which half.

threeball

Thargor wrote: »

I think certain people claimed these emails were fake news last time:

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-supporters-protest-gross-campaign-fundraising-emails-like-mob-collections/

My bet is that they pocket the readies as they know the game is up. They won't spend a cent campaigning. Just like Trump University, Trump Airlines, Trump real estate and Trump casinos its been an abject failure, but he tried to pocket cash from them all on his way out the door.

ohnonotgmail

threeball wrote: »

My bet is that they pocket the readies as they know the game is up. They won't spend a cent campaigning. Just like Trump University, Trump Airlines, Trump real estate and Trump casinos its been an abject failure, but he tried to pocket cash from them all on his way out the door.

you can guarantee that the majority of the campaign expenses will involve invoices from trump-owned companies.

gmisk

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

about half apparently. of course they didnt say which half.

I honestly couldn't even vaguely say one for him...

KiKi III

gmisk wrote: »

I honestly couldn't even vaguely say one for him...

Ah you’d have to give him marks for creativity in fairness.

Lolle06

one world order wrote: »

Trump is imperfect and a sinner like the rest of us. He has a lot of traits that I don’t like. But he gives equal opportunity based on his record and he has a desire to make America better. There are dark clouds gathering over America right now it’s on a knife edge. The stock markets are also ripe for a collapse. I like his goal of returning America to its original values but it looks now, that is outside his control.

There are dark clouds over America BECAUSE of Trump! He didn‘t make America great again - he brought it to the knifes edge! If you can‘t see this you are blinded by his hole charade. He is only working for one cause - and that is himself.

Muahahaha

KiKi III wrote: »

As long as there are no major gaffes between now and the Veep announcement, there’s a lot of momentum with Biden.

Im wondering why he is leaving it so late to name the VP, August 1st is the day he is announcing who she is. The VPs job is to be an attack dog on Trump so why not have her in place already chipping away at him daily over the coronavirus. I cant see any reason for waiting till August 1st, Trump is on the ropes right now so the Dems should release the attack dog for maximum damage.

timsey tiger

Muahahaha wrote: »

Im wondering why he is leaving it so late to name the VP, August 1st is the day he is announcing who she is. The VPs job is to be an attack dog on Trump so why not have her in place already chipping away at him daily over the coronavirus. I cant see any reason for waiting till August 1st, Trump is on the ropes right now so the Dems should release the attack dog for maximum damage.

All the press for trump is negative at the moment, why distract from that.

Overheal

It's not unusual to not know who a running mate is before a convention. Biden wasn't announced as Obama's VP until 2 days before their convention, on August 23rd. On the following day, August 24, is when McCain strategists settled on Palin, who was announced about a week and change later at their national convention. Reactionary choice, if ever there was one, to Obama not picking Hillary as his VP. Romney announced Paul Ryan as his running mate a couple weeks before convention. All of these happened into mid august or later (9/3 for Palin's public announcement), we're still a bit early.

Overheal

RNC "Rapid Response Director" (Hey look, fancy pretentious job title) Steve Guest tweeted this decades old photo of Joe Biden, trying to link Joe Biden to support of the Washington Redskins.



In the above subtweet he tried to identify the son photographed as Hunter, calling him a crack/powder cocaine addict, etc. as shown above.

Unfortunately for him sleuths found out this was Beau Biden, Joe's now deceased son, and to make matters worse the photo is old media taken from shortly after his wife and daughter died in a car accident.

Guest deleted the tweets after the internet tore him a new orifice, all he managed to do here was paint Joe Biden as a decent human being that raised his 2 sons as a single parent. Yes, how dare Hunter (not pictured) grow up with any sort of vice! Disgusting attack by an RNC director of all people. Beau is younger in this photo than Barron is! Took his traumatized son to a sporting event and bought him a hat - clearly an out and out racist, my hole.

https://twitter.com/richardmarx/status/1282766665063649280?s=20

ChikiChiki

Overheal wrote: »

RNC "Rapid Response Director" (Hey look, fancy pretentious job title) Steve Guest tweeted this decades old photo of Joe Biden, trying to link Joe Biden to support of the Washington Redskins.



In the above subtweet he tried to identify the son photographed as Hunter, calling him a crack/powder cocaine addict, etc. as shown above.

Unfortunately for him sleuths found out this was Beau Biden, Joe's now deceased son, and to make matters worse the photo is old media taken from shortly after his wife and daughter died in a car accident.

Guest deleted the tweets after the internet tore him a new orifice, all he managed to do here was paint Joe Biden as a decent human being that raised his 2 sons as a single parent. Yes, how dare Hunter (not pictured) grow up with any sort of vice! Disgusting attack by an RNC director of all people. Beau is younger in this photo than Barron is! Took his traumatized son to a sporting event and bought him a hat - clearly an out and out racist, my hole.

https://twitter.com/richardmarx/status/1282766665063649280?s=20

That is such scumbaggery. Beyond comprehension and that will really hurt Biden personally I can imagine.

Between this and the attacks on lifelong servant Fauci, its absolutely a disgusting administration getting worse by the day.

I'm pretty certain that Biden Tweet will finish Trump once and for all. It has not gone down well at all across both divides.