2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

Overheal

Carfacemandog wrote: »

He threatened them with nuclear war.

And blew up the Inter-Korean Liason Office just a month ago.

duploelabs

Kidchameleon wrote: »

What about his efforts with North Korea?

Like trying to gaslight his insults of 'little rocket man' to Kim into actually trying to say he's saying as a compliment and getting a signed CD of Elton John's Rocket Man delivered to him via Mike Pompeo?

Overheal

Both chambers have based separate spending bills by overwhelming majorities that will both rename confederate bases, something Trump threatened to veto however these are veto-proof majorities, pending the final vote on the reconciled version of the composite bill

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/just-in-senate-passes-740-billion-defense-bill-with-provision-to-remove-confederate-names-off-military-bases/

Meanwhile Trump caved to pressure to cancel the Jacksonville convention in late August, having earlier this week had the administration affirm it was absolutely going to happen and they were not considering alternative sites.

Also topical, the DOJ inspector general has launched an investigation into Trumps use off force at Lafayette Square and in Portland.

engleburt

Biden said he wants to ban production of ICE cars, just handed Trump Michigan and any oil states.

Carfacemandog

engleburt wrote: »

Biden said he wants to ban production of ICE cars, just handed Trump Michigan and any oil states.

Where did he say that? He leads Trump by 7.6% there currently.

Also just pointing out for anyone confused that ICE = internal combustible engine, not the folks who throw children in cages.

mcmoustache

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Great post. Here's a few more...


Hillary Clinton: "We came, we saw, he died!"

Joe Biden: "If you dont vote for me, you aint black!"

Dear oh dear. This is just getting sad and pitiful.


First off, you're still shíting on about Clinton. Let it go. She lost. Get over it.


Secondly, for every slightly embarrassing gaffe from Biden, there are hundreds from Trump and Trump's are off the charts compared to the gaffe-prone Biden.


This can be demonstrated by the fact that you keep going back to memes that are well past their sell-by date while this thread and the world at large gets daily laughs from his twitter tantrums, bragging about passing tests that could be passed by a young child, nonsensicle ramblings, stupid predictions and terrible medical advice.

Overheal

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Where did he say that? He leads Trump by 7.6% there currently.

Also just pointing out for anyone confused that ICE = internal combustible engine, not the folks who throw children in cages.

This is what I find, which doesn't mention a ban but does mention investment in EVs

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2020/07/14/car-dependency-baked-into-joe-bidens-2-trillion-climate-plan/#1c539469f9a1

The details of the Clean Cars for America policy do not mention any ban:

https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Clean%20Cars%20for%20America%20-%20Detailed%20Summary.pdf

mcmoustache

Kidchameleon wrote: »

What about his efforts with North Korea?

How did that work out?


Trump got a nice letter, some people got a commemorative coin and NK got enough time to improve their weapons program.


The stupid gobshíte got played because his ego is easily manipulated by flattery.

Man Vs ManUre

Is Biden gonna win by just basically doing nothing?? He must be sitting at home thanking the Chinese for the coronavirus. Trump would have walked this election had it not happened, now only reason he is still in it is because the opponent is a non-entity.

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

This is what I find, which doesn't mention a ban but does mention investment in EVs

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2020/07/14/car-dependency-baked-into-joe-bidens-2-trillion-climate-plan/#1c539469f9a1

The details of the Clean Cars for America policy do not mention any ban:

https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Clean%20Cars%20for%20America%20-%20Detailed%20Summary.pdf

Found it.

Not much of a ban more of a goal to have emissions producing passenger cars phased out of new sales by 2035.

: Congress should expedite deployment of zero-emission technologies in the
sectors where they are already available while making new gasoline- and diesel-powered vehicles as
clean as possible. This should include setting strong greenhouse gas emissions standards for cars,
heavy-duty trucks, and aviation; enacting a national sales standard to achieve 100% sales of zeroemission cars by 2035 and heavy-duty trucks by 2040; and providing incentives to build out zeroemission fueling infrastructure across the country. Ambitious initiatives to ensure more domestic
manufacturing of cleaner vehicles and their components must accompany these policies. At the same
time, Congress should establish a Low Carbon Fuel Standard to reduce emissions from remaining
gasoline-powered vehicles and transportation modes for which electrification may not be an option in
the short to medium term, such as aviation, long-haul trucking, and shipping. Congress also should
invest in aggressive research to develop and demonstrate new zero-emission technologies and fuels
for these harder-to-decarbonize parts of the transportation sector.

https://climatecrisis.house.gov/sites/climatecrisis.house.gov/files/Climate%20Crisis%20Action%20Plan.pdf

That's not going to lose Michigan, instead they would see economic growth and restructuring by phasing into low emission and zero emission vehicle production. Oil producers don't need catering to, gasoline is a cheap commodity but there will continue for a long time to be a market for petroleum products, they will innovate. After all the commercial spaceflight sector is just wedging into place, and there are still close to 300 million gas guzzling vehicles on the road to keep supplied, there will still be potentially hundreds of millions when new sales go virtually all to zero emissions for light and medium duty. .

alchemist33

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Is Biden gonna win by just basically doing nothing?? He must be sitting at home thanking the Chinese for the coronavirus. Trump would have walked this election had it not happened, now only reason he is still in it is because the opponent is a non-entity.

If Biden's thanking anyone for Covid, it's Trump for making a mess of it. It's not that difficult to take the advice of medical advisers, keep deaths to a minimum, and watch your poll numbers increase. But he failed miserably.

Liamo57

Im heading to the elections as an EC Observer for a 6 week period.

ChikiChiki

Person. Woman. Man. TV. Camera.

Did I get that right???? Goddammit that's a tough mental workout.

Anyone who gets the order right is the greatest smartest most tremendously intelligent person in the room.

Muahahaha

Liamo57 wrote: »

Im heading to the elections as an EC Observer for a 6 week period.

Fair play.

Its not everyone who can say that their work was criticised by the President of the United States. A story for the grandkids.

Overheal

"Ssssuuhhhhh gonna be just fine"

New LP Ad - and it's shaping up to be everything I knew a general election ad campaign would become: people who have been simply cataloguing what Trump says to remind everyone how horrible he's been over time, in this case horrible on Covid leadership. All Trump has been able to do is run ads that run on baseless conjecture and fearmongering, not to mention falsehoods like saying Biden wants to defund police (link).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uLJkpH__os

Airing in the swing states I imagine.

MadYaker

Trump just flat out cancelled some GOP convention event in Florida :pac: I commend him for it but it won’t go down well with the usual suspects.

Carfacemandog

MadYaker wrote: »

Trump just flat out cancelled some GOP convention event in Florida :pac: I commend him for it but it won’t go down well with the usual suspects.

No it'll be fine. If he came out at any point and unequivocally said it's real, totally not a hoax, is very serious and can kill a lot of people, and that proper strong measures need to be taken, I absolutely guarantee 85-90% of those opposed to it would fall in line immediately.

You need to remember it's a cult, and he's the cult leader. They do as told, so long as the cult leader says to.

Overheal

MadYaker wrote: »

Trump just flat out cancelled some GOP convention event in Florida :pac: I commend him for it but it won’t go down well with the usual suspects.

Not some event, the event. The Republican National Convention. Already kicked out of having it in NC, weeks prior.

The convention's official business meetings were always set to remain in Charlotte, N.C., and Trump said on Thursday that those would go on as planned.

But the party's big events, including Trump’s prime-time nomination speech, which the party decided to move to Jacksonville only last month, will move online, the president suggested.

“We're going to do some other things with tele-rallies and online the week that we're discussing, which would be really good. I think we're going to do it well,” Trump said, vowing that he would still deliver a speech “in a different form.”

“We didn't want to take any chances,” the president said in his abrupt announcement, acknowledging what public health experts had long warned: “There could be nothing like our last convention, unfortunately.”

“It's a different world, and it will be for a little while,” he conceded.

Trump’s comments came on the same day that the U.S. surpassed 4 million known cases of coronavirus, a milestone that came just 15 days after the country marked its 3 millionth known case.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/23/trump-cancels-gop-convention-jacksonville-380622

ChikiChiki

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Person. Woman. Man. TV. Camera.

Did I get that right???? Goddammit that's a tough mental workout.

Anyone who gets the order right is the greatest smartest most tremendously intelligent person in the room.

My dad flicked on sky this evening and The Chase was on but he switched to sky news. In a split second i read the question and the four possible answers, I can tell them now, though I may not get them in the right order and forego the extra points so I'm not a genius of Donalds level.

Perhaps if his example had been more mundane stuff it would be more believable but someone on another thread suggested he was just saying what he say in front of him, man, woman, camera ,TV. All things you get at a press conference.

Overheal

Trump tonight spouted nonsense on television about sending 50 to 70 thousand federal agents into Democrat-controlled cities.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-suggests-possible-deployment-of-50000-75000-federal-agents-to-help-cities-we-can-solve-these-problems-so-fast/

“We want to go in and help the cities, we want help Chicago, we want to help all of them,” Trump said on Fox News. “Detroit is having problems. A very good police chief in Detroit but they are having problems. We’ll go into all the cities, any of the cities. We’ll put in 50,000, 60,000 people that really know what they are doing. And they are strong, tough, and we can solve these problems so fast. But as you know, we have to be invited in.”

Of note: DHS has 240,000 total employees, per its website, and, as of 2016, the agency employed roughly 62,000 full-time law enforcement officers. That number includes roughly 38,000 Customs and Border Protection officers, 12,000 ICE officers, more than 5,000 Secret Service agents, and nearly 1,000 Federal Protection Service agents. The Justice Department includes another 44,000 full-time law enforcement agents, among them the FBI, ATF, and DEA.

To get to the numbers he's boasting about you'd have to pull half the entire law enforcement apparatus of DHS and Justice Dept off of regular duty, which would be insanity in a word. If he's actually serious, he's a complete maniac. If he just thinks bluffing/threatening about it like this will win him approval, he's also a maniac. He's also just a complete maniac.

Timberrrrrrrr

[Deleted User] wrote: »

My dad flicked on sky this evening and The Chase was on but he switched to sky news. In a split second i read the question and the four possible answers, I can tell them now, though I may not get them in the right order and forego the extra points so I'm not a genius of Donalds level.

Perhaps if his example had been more mundane stuff it would be more believable but someone on another thread suggested he was just saying what he say in front of him, man, woman, camera ,TV. All things you get at a press conference.

You definitely wouldn't get the bonus points, The chase only has 3 answers to remember :pac:

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

My dad flicked on sky this evening and The Chase was on but he switched to sky news. In a split second i read the question and the four possible answers, I can tell them now, though I may not get them in the right order and forego the extra points so I'm not a genius of Donalds level.

Perhaps if his example had been more mundane stuff it would be more believable but someone on another thread suggested he was just saying what he say in front of him, man, woman, camera ,TV. All things you get at a press conference.

I said it on this thread. He can't even be honest about the test he "aced".

pjohnson

Was Trump doing a tribute to sober Father Jack or Ron Swanson typing every word he knows?

duploelabs

pjohnson wrote: »

Was Trump doing a tribute to sober Father Jack or Ron Swanson typing every word he knows?

That would be an ecumenical matter

threeball

alchemist33 wrote: »

If Biden's thanking anyone for Covid, it's Trump for making a mess of it. It's not that difficult to take the advice of medical advisers, keep deaths to a minimum, and watch your poll numbers increase. But he failed miserably.

This is just it, he could have been a wartime president without a war. Look at the bounce Varadkar got here off the back of Covid. Had our elections been a couple of months later FG would be looking at close to a majority on their own.

Trump was given a golden opportunity to guarantee his election in November and just like everything else he touches he managed to turn it into a disaster.

Penn

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You definitely wouldn't get the bonus points, The chase only has 3 answers to remember :pac:

It's hilarious that he's trying to push the idea that he somehow got extra points in the test due to how well he did, as if it's possible to do so well in a cognitive assessment test that not only do you prove you don't have cognitive impairment, but that they give you bonus marks for being so not cognitively impaired.

ohnonotgmail

Penn wrote: »

It's hilarious that he's trying to push the idea that he somehow got extra points in the test due to how well he did, as if it's possible to do so well in a cognitive assessment test that not only do you prove you don't have cognitive impairment, but that they give you bonus marks for being so not cognitively impaired.

just another casual lie. there are no extra points for getting them in order. here is a sample MOCA test that would be very close to the one he took.

https://www.mocatest.org/pdf_files/test/MoCA-Test-English_7_1.pdf

doggerland

I honestly thought the crap handling of corona would take it from him, but like the "grab them" tape I think it'll be offset and he'll win in November. I'm about 99% sure and that keeps increasing the more I hear "defund the police" from the other side while encouraging rioting... At a guess, I think most of his voters will see him as a placeholder to keep the Dems out while the madness burning through their ranks, and in 2024 we'll see them back in power.

ohnonotgmail

doggerland wrote: »

I honestly thought the crap handling of corona would take it from him, but like the "grab them" tape I think it'll be offset and he'll win in November. I'm about 99% sure and that keeps increasing the more I hear "defund the police" from the other side while encouraging rioting... At a guess, I think most of his voters will see him as a placeholder to keep the Dems out while the madness burning through their ranks, and in 2024 we'll see them back in power.

when has biden pushed "defund the police" or encouraged rioting?

KiKi III

doggerland wrote: »

I honestly thought the crap handling of corona would take it from him, but like the "grab them" tape I think it'll be offset and he'll win in November. I'm about 99% sure and that keeps increasing the more I hear "defund the police" from the other side while encouraging rioting... At a guess, I think most of his voters will see him as a placeholder to keep the Dems out while the madness burning through their ranks, and in 2024 we'll see them back in power.

The riots are already old news, while people are still dying from covid in their thousands.