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2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,490 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Casinos.
    Steaks.
    Water.
    Airlines.
    Colleges.

    He's done a wonderful job with his superior business acumen in all those sectors [/s]

    Failed businesses. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who is successful yet hasn't stumbled along the way. They got up and tried again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Failed businesses. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who is successful yet hasn't stumbled along the way. They got up and tried again.
    He'd actually have been richer if he just put all the money daddy gave him into a 401k, back in the 80s.

    Fred was a piece of work (and KKK sympathiser), but he also knew how to make money. Donalda so bad at it that he couldn't keep up with the stock market and wound up in a position where no US banks would touch him, forcing him to turn to the likes of Russia and China, the latter of which it turns out he is $200,000,000 in the hole to.

    No wonder he's so terrified of anyone seeing his tax returns. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,223 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    silverharp wrote: »

    What won't be good for Biden??? How is that video in any way related to Biden?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Casinos.
    Steaks.
    Water.
    Airlines.
    Colleges.

    He's done a wonderful job with his superior business acumen in all those sectors [/s]
    Don't forget him not being allowed to run a charity anymore either.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,330 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Failed businesses. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who is successful yet hasn't stumbled along the way. They got up and tried again.

    How's the trump foundation doing these days?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,434 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Failed businesses. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who is successful yet hasn't stumbled along the way. They got up and tried again.

    Bill Gates
    Michael Bloomberg
    Jeff Bezos
    Warren Buffet

    No one is pressing me hard.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Brian? wrote: »
    What business skills do you think he's brought to the Oval office?

    I propose the only "business skills" he's brought is racking up debt he knows he won't have to pay off. He's been doing that for years.

    To be fair, he doesn't have to be a successful business person to be able to understand how the SME operate at ground level in cities and towns across America....and the issues facing the entrepreneur...the spirit with which the American dream is based on.

    I am told, albeit anecdotally by a friend who is such a person, that he has cleared the difficult hurdles that many parts of the US has placed for budding business owners to get set up, I believe California is a nightmare, but again that is anecdotal....this boom was really impacting the those small family or privately owned business owners who in turn employed people in numbers that the US hadn't previously seen.

    This booming economy had nothing to do with the previous administration.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Brian? wrote: »
    Bill Gates
    Michael Bloomberg
    Jeff Bezos
    Warren Buffet

    No one is pressing me hard.

    Gates is a College drop out and had failed with other business before he was succesfull



    Bezos gave himself a 30% chance of amazon being succesfull and has had massive failures in running the business


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    His tough “policies” on immigration, the southern border, the wall and all that won’t look quite so attractive to some of his supporters here when he starts to crack down on the undocumented Irish people out there. I think COVID-19 has deflected him from that path he was on earlier in the year. He’ll get back to it when he sees votes in it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Brian? wrote: »
    Bill Gates
    Michael Bloomberg
    Jeff Bezos
    Warren Buffet

    No one is pressing me hard.

    Ah come on....in America people go bankrupt all the time...their resilience and respect for people who try is unseen anywhere else in the world....


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    He'd actually have been richer if he just put all the money daddy gave him into a 401k, back in the 80s.

    Fred was a piece of work (and KKK sympathiser), but he also knew how to make money. Donalda so bad at it that he couldn't keep up with the stock market and wound up in a position where no US banks would touch him, forcing him to turn to the likes of Russia and China, the latter of which it turns out he is $200,000,000 in the hole to.

    No wonder he's so terrified of anyone seeing his tax returns. :D

    Back then that would have made him a Democrat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,454 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Ah come on....in America people go bankrupt all the time...their resilience and respect for people who try is unseen anywhere else in the world....

    It's hard to believe that Trump has any respect for anyone but himself


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,434 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    To be fair, he doesn't have to be a successful business person to be able to understand how the SME operate at ground level in cities and towns across America....and the issues facing the entrepreneur...the spirit with which the American dream is based on.

    I am told, albeit anecdotally by a friend who is such a person, that he has cleared the difficult hurdles that many parts of the US has placed for budding business owners to get set up, I believe California is a nightmare, but again that is anecdotal....this boom was really impacting the those small family or privately owned business owners who in turn employed people in numbers that the US hadn't previously seen.

    This booming economy had nothing to do with the previous administration.

    That’s the problem with anecdotes, they can be misleading. Federal regulations rarely trouble SMEs, they are more at the mercy of state
    Laws.

    I have no idea how you can say the economy had nothing to do with the previous administration. Trump was handed a booming economy. He eeked out a little bit more growth with tax breaks and reduction of regulation. Neither are a good thing in the long term.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    duploelabs wrote: »
    It's hard to believe that Trump has any respect for anyone but himself

    Okay....

    But what has that to do with the post you quoted?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,434 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Gates is a College drop out and had failed with other business before he was succesfull



    Bezos gave himself a 30% chance of amazon being succesfull and has had massive failures in running the business

    Bezos didn’t fail though. He succeeded, what’s your point?

    What business did Gates fail with?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,454 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Okay....

    But what has that to do with the post you quoted?

    "respect for people who try" is what I was referring to


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Brian? wrote: »
    That’s the problem with anecdotes, they can be misleading. Federal regulations rarely trouble SMEs, they are more at the mercy of state
    Laws.

    I have no idea how you can say the economy had nothing to do with the previous administration. Trump was handed a booming economy. He eeked out a little bit more growth with tax breaks and reduction of regulation. Neither are a good thing in the long term.

    I have no idea why you are contradicting yourself....


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    duploelabs wrote: »
    "respect for people who try" is what I was referring to

    Sorry...you've lost me...I was referring to American Entrepreneurial Culture...not Trump, altho I have no reason to believe he doesn't have respect for people who try to build businesses from the ground up....you obviously do have reason to believe otherwise!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Brian? wrote: »
    Bill Gates
    Michael Bloomberg
    Jeff Bezos
    Warren Buffet

    No one is pressing me hard.

    Above is a list of people who (with the possible exception of Bloomberg?) did not inherit obscene wealth, and have beaten the stock market by wide, wide margins. Unfortunately for Trump, who inherited his money from daddy, he has not even been able to keep pace with said stock market.

    Doesn't make any of them good people, just immeasurably better businesspeople than Two Scoops Donnie.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Back then that would have made him a Democrat.

    Quite possibly, as this was before the Republicans decided to change tactic and target voters in the South who were upset about losing in the civil rights movement and having to share schools with black kids.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Quite possibly, as this was before the Republicans decided to change tactic and target voters in the South who were upset about losing in the civil rights movement and having to share schools with black kids.

    Yip...there's nobody perfect!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Gates is a College drop out and had failed with other business before he was succesfull

    Gates didn't finish his degree because he was already running the very successful Microsoft.

    Saying he was a college dropout is either ignorant or deliberately trying to mislead.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Amirani wrote: »
    Gates didn't finish his degree because he was already running the very successful Microsoft.

    Saying he was a college dropout is either ignorant or deliberately trying to mislead.

    Also while people like Steve Jobs did face bankruptcy during their careers, they don't tend to end up blacklisted by many international banks. That's a sign of being unable to manage money and fiscal irresponsibility.

    Also the likes of Gates and Jobs aren't known for buying their way into universities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Yip...there's nobody perfect!

    Sure, if you treat politics like sports and decide to stick by 'your team' no matter what. Which would explain the loyalty for Trump some feel the need to signal even in the face of his bringing up armed uprisings and drinking bleach.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,434 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I have no idea why you are contradicting yourself....

    I’m not. You told an anecdote about SMEs. I pointed out that federal deregulation means very little to them.

    Federal deregulation means a lot to bigger companies.

    Is that clear enough?

    I assume, since you didn’t respond, that you agree Trump has just rode the coat tails of the Obama recovery.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Brian? wrote: »
    I’m not. You told an anecdote about SMEs. I pointed out that federal deregulation means very little to them.

    Federal deregulation means a lot to bigger companies.

    Is that clear enough?

    I assume, since you didn’t respond, that you agree Trump has just rode the coat tails of the Obama recovery.

    I said the opposite....which you know....

    Read what you said....you contradicted yourself in what was a short post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Sure, if you treat politics like sports and decide to stick by 'your team' no matter what. Which would explain the loyalty for Trump some feel the need to signal even in the face of his bringing up armed uprisings and drinking bleach.

    Well, both Clinton and Obama were against Gay marriage in the very recent past but we don't hang them for it...people change....we don't call Democrats homophobes....do we?

    Drinking bleach....come on...


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,490 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    MadYaker wrote: »
    What won't be good for Biden??? How is that video in any way related to Biden?

    Its Tara Reid's (Biden's sexual assault accuser's) mother phoning into the show describing that her daughter hit a brick wall trying to report it internally.

    That's not good for Biden

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    silverharp wrote: »
    Its Tara Reid's (Biden's sexual assault accuser's) mother phoning into the show describing that her daughter hit a brick wall trying to report it internally.

    That's not good for Biden

    Wait until the #believeallwomen crowd get wind of it......right....


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